The politics of Gay rights.

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kaylagrl

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Made it 004 seconds in and Im going to ask the mods to remove this. Calling Jesus badass to me is sacrilegious.Don't need to go any further than that. And yes,I wrote the word out to warn others.

Mj did you not listen to this before you posted? Or are you trying to be obnoxious on purpose?

As sinners Jesus accepts us as we are when we come to Him,then with His help we change.If you're saying that people can be practicing gays and make heaven you are a liar and you are sending souls to hell.Their blood is on your hands.Now either you honestly believe its ok to be gay,therefore you need to read the Bible and get saved,or you yourself are too much of a coward to tell them the truth.Either way you're wrong. There is no such thing as a Christian gay.None at all.Now you can keep believing and perpetuating that lie,but you're only fooling yourself and them.

​But mods this post needs to be removed.
 
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The wishful thinkers are old generation traditionalists. But they are becoming a minority, just as such things that are normalised of an age in life, are.

Life/God had to push them out, because if God didn't overrule the generation of 'this is the way it is' and then in 50 years want it to still be the way it 'was', we would still have slavery, and many other cruel things which have been wiped out by progress and change, good triumphing.

What people don't understand here in their self-interested views on human life, is that they are siding with cruelty.

Look at what the Muslims do to the gays in other countries. And yet no-one here will agree that there is a similarity between them and Muslims. No-one here will say, yes that's a good thing about Muslims, even though in the darkest corner of their mind they enjoy that gays are treated with such cruelty. I see Muslims as being somewhat 100s of years in the past.

These people wish for something in God's name, and think they speak for God and what God wants. And they will use the Bible as proof and justification, for their OWN self-purpose. Is there an example of Muslims who say they are Muslims and use the Quran for their proof and justification for something? But if God wanted gays to be wiped out or suppressed into nothingness, then we wouldn't have such good in the world that makes it more inclusive.

These people have issues with Love.

And someone who has an issue with Love, needs a Monster to focus on. If there was a 'majority' witch-hunt on gays and they were going to experience all forms of cruelty out of it, I wonder how many of the people here would tag along - but in their weakness, stand at the side and say yeh I'm not a part of this.

There have always been people with issues with Love, that's why God is important.

It's so easy for people to judge a group of people, when that group of people are not here defending themselves. They are not here because, it is isn't such a welcoming place for such people is it? Full of love.

If you want to change or inspire people to do the right thing, according to what you believe is right, you can't do it without Love. And you can't judge people and then expect them to think, yeh I'll listen to this ass, just like anyone who is judged thinks, because it is true.

People who have issues with Love, express Lovelessness. But in their need to hide that, and give a face of love, they will word it nicely. But it all comes from the same source. Them, and not from God.
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People who are coming into an eternal saved relationship with God swallow the conviction of the Holy Spirit in regard to their sins.. They don't see the conviction of the Holy Spirit as coming from an ""ass"" as you so eloquently labeled people who are lead by the Holy Spirit to give warning of Gods standards and judgement..

But those who love their sin and those who support the sin for others will never listen to the conviction of the Holy Spirit.. Their supposed love is to keep the person on their path to the eternal lake of fire and pat them on the back and tell them that their sexual life style is to be embraced and celebrated by all... With friends like that who needs enemies ?
 
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People who are coming into an eternal saved relationship with God swallow the conviction of the Holy Spirit in regard to their sins.. They don't see the conviction of the Holy Spirit as coming from an ""ass"" as you so eloquently labeled people who are lead by the Holy Spirit to give warning of Gods standards and judgement..

But those who love their sin and those who support the sin for others will never listen to the conviction of the Holy Spirit.. Their supposed love is to keep the person on their path to the eternal lake of fire and pat them on the back and tell them that their sexual life style is to be embraced and celebrated by all... With friends like that who needs enemies ?
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They've been saying for centuries that the "old traditionals" day is done. The old fools that believe the Bible. Darwin supposedly "killed God" and yet he's in a deep six somewhere and the old traditionals are still here. And they will remain as long as the Lord tarries.
 
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kaylagrl said:
They've been saying for centuries that the "old traditionals" day is done. The old fools that believe the Bible. Darwin supposedly "killed God" and yet he's in a deep six somewhere and the old traditionals are still here. And they will remain as long as the Lord tarries.
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AMEN to that.. Yep they declared the death of God way too early and still delude themselves that God will be dead tomorrow or real soon...

Indeed there will be followers of God on earth right up to the Day of the return of The LORD Jesus Christ. :D
 
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kaylagrl said:
They've been saying for centuries that the "old traditionals" day is done. The old fools that believe the Bible. Darwin supposedly "killed God" and yet he's in a deep six somewhere and the old traditionals are still here. And they will remain as long as the Lord tarries.
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And to add a bonus to that, that's a great parallel to God's word! It's the oldest, living, written word that has stood the test of time! All others fade away, but the Word of God marches on, and it's as old fashioned and traditional as it gets! So while others may fall by the wayside...God's word won't :)
 
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You care if one is conservative.

In a bad way of caring.

You show great disdain for anyone conservative, anyone Biblical in their stance, anyone sound in doctrine.
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No.. I show disdain for anyone who tries to force their conservatism on others. Don't get it twisted
 
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notuptome said:
Why don't you support Godly holiness and purity? Is perversion a right or an affront?

Freedom is being changed into licentiousness by your philosophy.

Civilized society depends on the government to limit the rights of people to protect people from themselves. This requires men to be in government who have character and integrity based on Godly principals.

Your rights end where my rights begin.

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I don't support forcing my values on other people like most Christians do. Some people are not interested in Christianity God or the Bible and that's their freedom choice
 
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Jesus didn't either. He left many towns that had no interest and most He never went to. Same as His early disciples. They were told to shake the dust off if they weren't received.
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I don't support forcing my values on other people like most Christians do. Some people are not interested in Christianity God or the Bible and that's their freedom choice
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Political correctness should NOT override scriptural instructions!


2 Thessalonians 3:6
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from any brother who leads an undisciplined life that is not in keeping with the tradition you received from us.

2 Thessalonians 3:14
Take note of anyone who does not obey the instructions we have given in this letter. Do not associate with him, so that he may be ashamed.
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Sure thing, but that was not what I said.
 
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Jesus didn't either. He left many towns that had no interest and most He never went to. Same as His early disciples. They were told to shake the dust off if they weren't received.
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Exactly. Walk away and wipe the dust from your feet. Jesus never instructed his disciples to force Christianity on anyone
 
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Exactly. Walk away and wipe the dust from your feet. Jesus never instructed his disciples to force Christianity on anyone
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He told them to spread the Gospel!! THEN if they do not accept it to walk away.Don't make the Bible say something it doesn't. No one is saying to force anything. You're being obtuse. But you do share the truth,and then you stand for that truth. IF the country votes for gays or any other sin,thats up to them.But YOU ought to stand against it,YOU are to stand for the truth of Gods Word.
 
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Jesus didn't either. He left many towns that had no interest and most He never went to. Same as His early disciples. They were told to shake the dust off if they weren't received.
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IF they weren't received!! But they shared the truth first.So much so that they were put in prison for it!!
 
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So here's where we're at right now...
Everyone saying I'm bashing them for being conservative in for standing for biblical principles while everyone is bashing me for supporting individual freedoms
 
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kaylagrl said:
IF they weren't received!! But they shared the truth first.So much so that they were put in prison for it!!
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Jesus clearly told his disciples to go and preach the gospel to the world, and if a town didn't receive them, which is actually meaning in two matters (receiving the gospel and receiving them into their town after they heard it), THEN they were to walk away and shake the dust off of their feet.
 
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Dude653 said:
So here's where we're at right now...
Everyone saying I'm bashing them for being conservative in for standing for biblical principles while everyone is bashing me for supporting individual freedoms
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Maybe they've forgotten what the Constitution and America is all about?
 
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So here's where we're at right now...
Everyone saying I'm bashing them for being conservative in for standing for biblical principles while everyone is bashing me for supporting individual freedoms
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I can't speak for what others are saying to you.What bothers me is what I hear you saying,correct me if I am not hearing right,is your attitude is "live and let live". Do you vote for Biblical principles,for the sanctity of marriage? That is what we should do as Christians. If the country votes for gay marriage,so be it,I cannot stop that.But my vote goes to support marriage between a man and a woman.Obama initially agreed with this.What the world supports is not what you and I ought to support. That is what Im talking about.
 
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kaylagrl said:
I can't speak for what others are saying to you.What bothers me is what I hear you saying,correct me if I am not hearing right,is your attitude is "live and let live". Do you vote for Biblical principles,for the sanctity of marriage? That is what we should do as Christians. If the country votes for gay marriage,so be it,I cannot stop that.But my vote goes to support marriage between a man and a woman.Obama initially agreed with this.What the world supports is not what you and I ought to support. That is what Im talking about.
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Bingo......
 
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kaylagrl said:
I can't speak for what others are saying to you.What bothers me is what I hear you saying,correct me if I am not hearing right,is your attitude is "live and let live". Do you vote for Biblical principles,for the sanctity of marriage? That is what we should do as Christians. If the country votes for gay marriage,so be it,I cannot stop that.But my vote goes to support marriage between a man and a woman.Obama initially agreed with this.What the world supports is not what you and I ought to support. That is what Im talking about.
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I'm not going to vote for Theocratic legislation if that's what you're asking.
 
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I'm not going to vote for Theocratic legislation if that's what you're asking.
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No,thats not what Im asking.Please reread carefully what I said...
 
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kaylagrl said:
No,thats not what Im asking.Please reread carefully what I said...
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Voting against same-sex marriage would be taking someone's rights away based on religious principles which would be theocracy, so now I'm not going to do that because theocracy is tyranny
 
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