He also uses parts of it to deceive people into thinking they obey themselves into the kingdom. But I wouldn't give him all the credit; wicked human hearts also deceive themselves in the same way.
Is the Bible under attack?
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He also uses parts of it to deceive people into thinking they obey themselves into the kingdom. But I wouldn't give him all the credit; wicked human hearts also deceive themselves in the same way.
(Whatever THAT stupid comment means.) But, why is it that you know you have all things correct and no one else does?
I'm certain you know what it means, but you can use derogation and pretense all you want, it won't change that fact.
More evidence of why you'd like Rob Bell and Brian McLaren. A lot.
Asking you a question you have no answer for is "evidence" of something?
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well that is not true at all
when I brought up Rob Bell in another thread a couple of wks back in reference to a question asked by someone, the poster did not know who Bell was
Willie said they should leave it that way
I am sure you would like to keep the record straight being the preacher of truth and all that
All language is inspired by God.But even then the scriptures say ''not by might,nor by power,but by my spirit.''which is the Holy Spirit.In Revelation 14,the sound of rushing waters is an out pour of the Holy Spirit.That's when the Word(the written Word) draws in all that the father has given him.Jesus did testify that right?.The living Word!The scriptures that testify of him.
i don't know who these people are, and even tho i'd self-describe as being pretty good at 'google' i still don't know who they are - because i am bluntly, not interested in finding out.
Could we stop being oblique and just outright say whatever it is we're trying to insinuate?
it has always been Gods Word that satan twists and omits to cause mans death. was true in eden, true in Jesus day and still today. we have what is written for a very important reason....so that no one can come along and tell us the Lord didnt say this or that....im so glad God purposed His word to be recorded or wed all be at the mercy of mans ideas.....
Kinda funny how the scriptures clearly contain the writings which impune Adam who it is written said "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." when clearly the serpent knew from whence he came when said to the woman, Yeah surely God since it is written therefore a man shall leave his mother and father and cleave unto a mate; and they shall be one flesh.
Since it is written that they can do nothing against the truth but for it, even when he created them male and female, how he called the womans' name Adam too in the day he made them as written in Genesis 5:2., so the really no error in calling the woman by the name of Eve since they weren't Adam.
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Gen 3:2
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Gen 3:4
John 11:26-27
Which one can help but aver to John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Since it is written that they can do nothing against the truth but for it, even when he created them male and female, how he called the womans' name Adam too in the day he made them as written in Genesis 5:2., so the really no error in calling the woman by the name of Eve since they weren't Adam.
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Gen 3:2
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Gen 3:4
John 11:26-27
Which one can help but aver to John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
So how would we know if our heart was deceived or not? How could we be sure we are on the right track?
Jesus inspired a very specific answer to this question.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
So did Jesus walk in the doctrines and traditions of the Mainstream Church of His time? Or did He walk in the Instructions His Father gave in the Law and Prophets He said would be here as long as the earth is here?
Isn't that ultimately the choice Eve had? Either stick with the Word's of God, or follow our own thoughts.
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes,"
It is an age old battle isn't it.
The OP statement is meant for those who actually try and change the words written by and through inspired people who were guided by the HS to put into word God's message to His creation. Those people would include both believers and non-believers. My statement is a verifiable one whenever we read what some interpret as a "book which is corrupt."
No where did I make a statement that "other posters" are wrong and only those with our views are right.
I stand by the fact that I have seen people attack the very book itself and that I my sole purpose in this thread.
No it isn't another KJV thread. It is a legitimate question and a reasonable one IMO. I read different versions (side-by-side) in my bible studies.
BTW I'm not "riled" up for anyone who seems to think that is why I began this thread. I genuinely believe the Word is under more attack than in the past.
My point to anyone who may believe the Bible was written only by human beings and not inspired by God or that the Word of God has become corrupted and no longer of use for Christians, the message presented in those pages are God's message to His creation and that message is still the same yesterday, today, and will be tomorrow.
amen. and that is the shield of Faith, that can extinguish every fiery dart of the wicked...to simply believe Gods Word, through Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, above all other voices saying all different things. any Christians should be able to say " No matter what the subject regarding the gospel of the Kingdom...Jesus was right, was clear and is the ultimate immutable authority, the author of salvation , to look at all the events where God told the person one thing, and they did another and that 100 percent of the time it was disastrous. such as eve, and then adam who listened to eves voice, that was really the serpents voice to Her.
such as Cain who God told clearly about sin, and to Just do what was right and be accepted, cains response was to follow sin and kill his little brother. mankind is corrupt at the heart, and only Gods Word can Heal the Mind and Heart, eternal Life is the offer according to what God has said, we have to believe.
Beautiful to hear,
The Good news of the Gospel alive and well.
Thank you for your encouraging words.
thank you for yours as well always enjoy reading your posts in the forum God bless.
Ephesians 6 : Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, ( ) and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:"
God said....
matthew 3 " And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
so satan attacks what God has said, Jesus then answers each challenge with " it is written" and then casts Him away when He suggests worshipping Him rather than God. casting Him away with " it is written" Jesus does the opposite, as eve and adam, Jesus trusts Gods Word, rather then the word of satan. thats all we have to do as well. romans 10:17
matthew 4 " 3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( deuteronomy 18:18-19, john 12:48-50 acts 3)
5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. ( note here that satan mis applies Gods word but quotes it accurately psalm 91:11-12, something any good false teacher does the answer again...)
7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
finally seeing that Jesus is not going to be decieved with Gods Word, satan shifts to offer Jesus authority on earth if He will bow and worship him....
8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
again it is written is the response , and His authority is excercised.10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him."