FLAT EARTH

[Dude653]

I can type in any given address in America and my GPS on my phone will give me turn by turn instructions on how to get there. How do you suppose this works without satellites?

 

[pckts]

So how do you suppose suppose gps works?
It must be magic from Satan.
I can pull up Google Earth and see a live image of some guy's house and China or Afghanistan if I wanted to.
This is accomplished by satellites that are orbiting our Earth

Do you believe your cell phone and "smart watches" actually communicate with satellites? No, the signal is triangulated with ground towers. No

Google earth zoomed out is a artist depiction of the earth, it's not until you zoom in significantly that the images become actual photos. These photos are taken by planes with attached cameras. This is common knowledge:

Google and Apple use planes that can film you sunbathing in your back garden | Daily Mail Online

Dude, you are jumping all over the place with your questions and challenges. When one argument fails you don't acknowledge it and move onto another position to attack from. It's a one way dialogue and I'm not interested in satisfying one demand after the other. You will never consider anything I say and are only looking to attack an idea you are threatened by.

 

[pckts]

I can type in any given address in America and my GPS on my phone will give me turn by turn instructions on how to get there. How do you suppose this works without satellites?

Point A is found using the method I just described in my previous post. You type point B in. Then a database of maps is consulted and draws and calculates a little line for you to follow that connects these two points.

You honestly think satellite resources would be wasted every time you calculate a route? That would be redundant and completely unnecessary. The only thing that needs to be located is point A, you type point B in yourself, and then a database of existing maps is used to "connect the dots".

 

[Dude653]

Wrong again.
Towers give your phone access to Internet which in turn gives your phone access to satellite data.
Same way Fiber Optic Cables give your home PC access to Internet, which in turn gives your computer access to satellite data.

 

[Zi]

what about construction? you mean someone has the time to update every road? what about when roads are no longer in use? is that why the google cars drive around?

Point A is found using the method I just described in my previous post. You type point B in. Then a database of maps is consulted and draws and calculates a little line for you to follow that connects these two points.

You honestly think satellite resources would be wasted every time you calculate a route? That would be redundant and completely unnecessary. The only thing that needs to be located is point A, you type point B in yourself, and then a database of existing maps is used to "connect the dots".

 

[pckts]

Wrong again.
Towers give your phone access to Internet which in turn gives your phone access to satellite data.
Same way Fiber Optic Cables give your home PC access to Internet, which in turn gives your computer access to satellite data.

Look into triangulated signals, you are highly mistaken.

And don't ask me questions you think you know the answer to already in a misguided attempt to prove a point. You are very disingenuous. I already know where you were going because I've come to know you, so its ok.

You can't see why that would be completely redundant and resource draining in calculating routes, even if satellites were real? Its this poor judgement and critical thinking that keeps you reliant on authority to think for you.

 

[Dude653]

Also why has the edge of the Earth never been photographed?

 

[pckts]

what about construction? you mean someone has the time to update every road? what about when roads are no longer in use? is that why the google cars drive around?

The mobile phones of people sitting in their cars is calculated using the method I describe of "triangulating" the signal, if lots of people are sitting or slowed down significantly this is relayed to your map software and displayed for you. Perhaps construction times and zones are also made public and incorporated into the software I don't know, but I do know the congested roads and "slow downs" are calculated from the locations and times of user's phones.

You can read about it here: How Google Maps knows about traffic - Business Insider

"Google Maps is able to do this thanks to all of us. Hundreds of millions of people around the world give Google real-time data that it uses to analyze traffic and road conditions.
Here's how it works: All iPhones that have Google Maps open and Android phones that have location services turned on send anonymous bits of data back to Google. This allows the company to analyze the total number of cars, and how fast they're going, on a road at any given time.
Other popular GPS mapping apps, like Apple Maps, Waze, Nokia's HERE maps, and Mapquest, all offer traffic information, but the advantage Google has is the sheer number of people who use it, and the amount of data it has."

 

[pckts]

Wrong again.
Towers give your phone access to Internet which in turn gives your phone access to satellite data.
Same way Fiber Optic Cables give your home PC access to Internet, which in turn gives your computer access to satellite data.

Dude, you are jumping all over the place with your questions and challenges. When one argument fails you don't acknowledge it and move onto another position to attack from. It's a one way dialogue and I'm not interested in satisfying one demand after the other. You will never consider anything I say and are only looking to attack an idea you are threatened by.

 

[preacher4truth]

Also why has the edge of the Earth never been photographed?

 

[tourist]

Also why has the edge of the Earth never been photographed?

I asked that question many times. The answer is that it's not easy to get there whatever that means. It seems that flat-liners lack ambition. There is documented evidence that the earth is round, you can say that it's fake or real but it is documentation. Never seen a picture of a flat earth, no one has any idea what is on the edge. I guess that we should just take their word for it that the earth is flatter than a pancake.

 

[Dude653]

I asked that question many times. The answer is that it's not easy to get there whatever that means. It seems that flat-liners lack ambition. There is documented evidence that the earth is round, you can say that it's fake or real but it is documentation. Never seen a picture of a flat earth, no one has any idea what is on the edge. I guess that we should just take their word for it that the earth is flatter than a pancake.

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
The fact that no one has ever been able to produce a photograph of the edge of the Earth is proof enough that the Earth isn't flat

 

[pckts]

That isn't an example of a "fish eye" lens, that's an example of entirely CGI footage. Looks like it came from one of these types of videos:

[video=youtube;EPyl1LgNtoQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyl1LgNtoQ[/video]

I look at it and it's clearly CGI, you will probably be in awe of the earth. Perception is reality, but idk it looks very digital graphicy, even among the rest of the fake videos and images. The aurora borealis or whatever they are going for, and the "lit up" cities just looks so fake.

Not to mention it looks nothing like the previous depictions of earth, nor does it look like the current ISS live stream of earth. Looks fake on its own, and nothing like anything that proceeded it or our current fake stuff.

 

[pckts]

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
The fact that no one has ever been able to produce a photograph of the edge of the Earth is proof enough that the Earth isn't flat

Your people actually say the opposite of this to support the globe earth.

Say it one way to serve your beliefs, say it the opposite way to attack the opposition.

 

[preacher4truth]

That isn't an example of a "fish eye" lens, that's an example of entirely CGI footage. Looks like it came from one of these types of videos:

[video=youtube;EPyl1LgNtoQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyl1LgNtoQ[/video]

I look at it and it's clearly CGI, you will probably be in awe of the earth. Perception is reality, but idk it looks very digital graphicy, even among the rest of the fake videos and images. The aurora borealis or whatever they are going for, and the "lit up" cities just looks so fake.

Not to mention it looks nothing like the previous depictions of earth, nor does it look like the current ISS live stream of earth. Looks fake on its own, and nothing like anything that proceeded it or our current fake stuff.

I'm not a flat earther.

 

[pckts]

I'm not a flat earther.

Yeah I'm aware, notice I said:

I look at it and it's clearly CGI, you will probably be in awe of the earth. Perception is reality, but idk it looks very digital graphicy, even among the rest of the fake videos and images. The aurora borealis or whatever they are going for, and the "lit up" cities just looks so fake.

 

[pckts]

I asked that question many times. The answer is that it's not easy to get there whatever that means. It seems that flat-liners lack ambition. There is documented evidence that the earth is round, you can say that it's fake or real but it is documentation. Never seen a picture of a flat earth, no one has any idea what is on the edge. I guess that we should just take their word for it that the earth is flatter than a pancake.

I never tell you to take my word for it, I tell you what to investigate and would gladly show you where. Moon Landing, ISS, Mars rover, go research and stop believing in them. Look into the occultism of NASA and affiliation with freemasonry, if you want source material I'll provide the links. Asking for a photo or information of the edge of the universe that I do not have and never second guessing or considering your documentation is fake, has nothing to do with me asking you to take my word for it the earth is flat.

You think I have the means and clearance to travel to Antarctica? You think this is something easy anyone can do? Let's say it was possible for me to buy a ticket for $100, then I'm going to land with equipment to survive and traverse the cold, supplies, and I'm going to just go out there and do this?

Travel to Antarctica isn't permitted, and if I was allowed for some research purpose I couldn't just go off on my own looking for the edge, not just because of the difficulty, but also because "they" would be watching. If the climate was nice, I could afford it, and no one would know what I was doing, I would certainly go looking and get the photo for myself and you.

 

[Dino246]

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
The fact that no one has ever been able to produce a photograph of the edge of the Earth is proof enough that the Earth isn't flat

Much as I agree with you regarding the reality of a globe earth, I have to disagree with your argument here.

"Absence of evidence is evidence of absence" is a logical fallacy, an "argument from ignorance".

 

[Dude653]

Travel to Antarctica is not forbidden.
Thousands of tourists travel there every year.
There are certain areas that are restricted scientific research but don't you find it a little odd that if thousands of tourists are traveling there every year no one is ever seen the ice wall? It would be visible from the air

 

[Dino246]

The tropic of Capricorn is the southernmost point the sun appears directly vertical overhead. You are claiming it can "appear" further than this due to the tilt, when the tilt itself is responsible for the tropic of Capricorn and appearance of the sun's position in the first place. You are claiming the phenomenon that causes the tropics to appear where they do, the tilt, is also causing it to appear in a different location than the tropic by definition defines? I do not follow this logic, nor do I agree with its conclusion.

Clearly, you are misunderstanding my assertion. I'm not claiming for a second that the Tropic moves! The probably is some variability, but essentially it is a fixed line due to the earth's tilt. What I am addressing is the appearance that the sun is more southerly.

Where I live in Canada, in the mornings from about late April to mid-September, the sun first appears at a point north of due east; in other words, far north of the Tropic of Cancer. It is not "directly above" that point, but it appears to be, given the tilt of the earth. Similarly, in the southern hemisphere in their summer, the morning sun appears at a point south of due east, though it is not directly above that point. At that time it would be directly above somewhere in the Southeastern Pacific, perhaps off the coast of Chile, but its nadir point (the point on the earth's surface at which the sun is directly overhead) is never further south than the Tropic of Capricorn.

The appearance of the sun as further north/south of the relevant Tropic line is due to the tilt of the roughly-spherical earth. I chose to focus on the Tropic of Capricorn because most of the maps and arguments place the centre of the earth at the north pole. Again, in that model of a flat earth, the sun can never even appear to be more southerly than the Tropic of Capricorn. The model simply doesn't allow for that possibility. From any point south of the Tropic of Capricorn, the sun must always appear to be further north... morning, noon, and evening, every day of the year. That's why the date of the photo is irrelevant.

This is basic geography; grade school level. Even if you finally reject my assertion, please at least do enough homework to understand it.