Hmm this sounds completely different than someone who believes in predestined elect theory, for that theory is about some will go to hell and others to heaven and that choice is not theirs, what really do you believe sounds wishy washy.
Do you think transgenders go to heaven?
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Hmm this sounds completely different than someone who believes in predestined elect theory, for that theory is about some will go to hell and others to heaven and that choice is not theirs, what really do you believe sounds wishy washy.
Thats the same as saying if a sinner has faith in Christ then yes, but they wouldn't be a sinner anymore........
See the problem?
The Lord will save anyone who comes to him, irrespective as to who or what they may be. That is the very reason Jesus came to this world, "to save sinners" (1 Cor. 6:9-12).
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]10 [/SUP]nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. [SUP]11[/SUP]And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Sexual Immorality
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything.
Honestly I don't think it's my place to decide if they go to heaven or not only God knows their hearts and only he is the righteous judge.But if I had to guess then I would say it depends on the person, I think a transgender whose heart truly seeks after God needs to learn to love themselves how God made them not what they feel like they should be.
Honestly whether a they are able to go to heaven or not I just want them to at least learn to accept themselves for who they are other wise they will never truly love themselves even if they become transgenders.
Honestly whether a they are able to go to heaven or not I just want them to at least learn to accept themselves for who they are other wise they will never truly love themselves even if they become transgenders.
No, I see no problem. A born again beliver would only go so far since they are now slaves to rightiosness. True believers don't willfully sin against God.
Yes, but before that point they are trans, and then come to faith and repentance.
So what you're saying is that transgenders and homosexuals are already condemned and hopeless, and thier behavior marks them as those who are condemned.
Although I believe that for many they're homosexuals and such because God gave them over to shameful lust. But I don't think that's the only reason people are gay or trans. Before people find identity in Christ they look for it in other places, like in careers,in politics, in marriage, or in being something that slightly resembles the opposite sex, it's a search for significance and meaning where there is none.
No it doesn't, keep reading. Romans 1:18- Rom 2: 1-29 (all) goes on to tell us Paul is talking about all of us, that is our condition without/before Christ, and that our "new" circumcision is one of the heart, in the Spirit. Only God, through Jesus can make us any different than what Paul is describing in these scriptures, that is not God letting us become hopeless, we are all born hopeless outside His gift of grace, mercy, and power.
What does Romans 1:18-32 say? and please, stop saying I said something I never did. This is what causes frictions.
Romans 1:18-32 says God gives people over to their delusion. It does not say there is no hope they will come into repentance.
The strong delusion of any sexual sin, including heterosexual fornication and adultery, is a form of prideful delusion that is very , very hard for people to break out of. With God all things are possible and he is not slack concerning his promise, that all come into repentance.
However and make no mistake, the onus and obligation to come out of strong delusion is not up to God, it is up to man responding to the goodness of God through the Holy Spirit convincing him, that he need's the Savior.
That is very hard for people to do that have perverted themselves into something God did not create.
P4T is pretty spot on concerning the Reformed approach in his post . There are sevral misconceptions out there concerning how Reformed folks approach scripture and approach issues like the one in the op .
Blessings
Bill
There was supposed to a question mark. I was asking if that was what you where saying. Why exactly are you arguing with me?
And was pretty much saying the opposite in that post, I've seen it before what is going on at that moment is the agenda.
Calvinist are secretly spreading the Gospel. Wha ha ha ha.
