JFK Shooting

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Seedz

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Ok, this is not about arguing or trying to prove a point.

I just want to pick your brains..

How many people were on the car when President JFK was killed?

Also, did C3PO always have a silver leg, or was he solid gold?

Hmmmm
 

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Four people in the car. Have no idea if CP30 has a silver or gold leg.
 
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Seedz

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Four people in the car. Have no idea if CP30 has a silver or gold leg.

Yeah I thought so too, now go to google images and look it up..

Its so weird.
 

maxwel

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If the point of this thread is to discuss the Mandela Effect,
you would first have to presuppose a B theory of time within which such an effect could even occur.

I see no reason to support the B theory, and there is virtually insurmountable evidence against it.
 
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pckts

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My grandmother identified all the people in the car off of her memory, so I don't believe in that one. 5 or 6 people idr but she said the correct number.

The 3PO thing was weird, I only saw star wars once so I'm not a good frame of reference, but I didn't remember the silver leg.

My neighbor who thinks flat earth is insane swears it was called jiffy peanut butter, and believes reality has changed. Also with fruit loops too.

For me the Forrest Gump one changed, Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood theme I watched all the time and that seems like I wouldn't have got it wrong, and I could have swore hannibal lecture said "hello clarice", even jim carey repeats the line in The Cable Guy.

Of course it was berenstein, berenstain looks weird and we would have at least heard someone mispronounce it ONCE.

IDK if you saw field of dreams, but it was like a plot point that he said "build it they will come", until the very last time when it changes to "he", I saw the movie on a bus going to a yankee game when I was like 10, and I had nothing to do but focus on the movie and I "know" it changed. There is even a movie where they play that movie in the background, and the actor in the movie hears the line and repeats it the old way while it plays the "new" way in the background, very weird.

Have you seen "the elephant man", hadn't seen it before the supposed change, but it changes dramatically.

I'm willing to believe we all misheard and misread, but at the same time I'm not. I have no explanation for how or why this can happen. It almost seems more logical that reality shifted than it is that we all misperceived everything and never corrected one another. Maybe things sounded differently on tube tvs, but that doesn't explain barenstain.

I honestly try not to think about it:confused:
 
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Seedz

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If the point of this thread is to discuss the Mandela Effect,
you would first have to presuppose a B theory of time within which such an effect could even occur.

I see no reason to support the B theory, and there is virtually insurmountable evidence against it.

Not trying to prove the mandela effect.

I am genuinely interested as to what people remember....
 
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Seedz

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My grandmother identified all the people in the car off of her memory, so I don't believe in that one. 5 or 6 people idr but she said the correct number.

The 3PO thing was weird, I only saw star wars once so I'm not a good frame of reference, but I didn't remember the silver leg.

My neighbor who thinks flat earth is insane swears it was called jiffy peanut butter, and believes reality has changed. Also with fruit loops too.

For me the Forrest Gump one changed, Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood theme I watched all the time and that seems like I wouldn't have got it wrong, and I could have swore hannibal lecture said "hello clarice", even jim carey repeats the line in The Cable Guy.

Of course it was berenstein, berenstain looks weird and we would have at least heard someone mispronounce it ONCE.

IDK if you saw field of dreams, but it was like a plot point that he said "build it they will come", until the very last time when it changes to "he", I saw the movie on a bus going to a yankee game when I was like 10, and I had nothing to do but focus on the movie and I "know" it changed. There is even a movie where they play that movie in the background, and the actor in the movie hears the line and repeats it the old way while it plays the "new" way in the background, very weird.

Have you seen "the elephant man", hadn't seen it before the supposed change, but it changes dramatically.

I'm willing to believe we all misheard and misread, but at the same time I'm not. I have no explanation for how or why this can happen. It almost seems more logical that reality shifted than it is that we all misperceived everything and never corrected one another. Maybe things sounded differently on tube tvs, but that doesn't explain barenstain.

I honestly try not to think about it:confused:

Crap.... looks like you and I are on the same boat, a lot of this stuff I remember it as it has always "been" and now it is different,

I am just going to forget about this because it makes my head hurt.
 

maxwel

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Not trying to prove the mandela effect.

I am genuinely interested as to what people remember....


It's perfectly fine if you want to discuss the Mandela Effect.
I wasn't deriding you for wanting to discuss it;
it's perfectly fine to discuss just about any weird thing in this forum.

I just happen to think it's rubbish.
You are free to disagree.
 

maxwel

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Let's look at it this way.

Which is more likely:
A. I misremember something from the past.
B. All of time and space has mysteriously changed in order to trick me about some meaningless bits of trivia.

: )
 
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pckts

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Crap.... looks like you and I are on the same boat, a lot of this stuff I remember it as it has always "been" and now it is different,

I am just going to forget about this because it makes my head hurt.
The best is when you show someone and they logically think "the company changed the logo, phrase, name, words, whatever it is", and then you show them a commercial from the 80's or something on youtube and it's different there and then they really get confused.

There haven't been any "new examples" since these all have come out, so that's evidence against some kind of "glitch" in the reality stream.

What about Isaiah 11:6?
The wolf (people remember lion) also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.


This is also "misquoted" in film and by preachers. I looked into many of the supposed Bible changes, and it seems they were always as they were and we just misremembered I guess. Seems odd though as The Bible is more thoroughly studied and memorized than movies and children's books.

I have to believe it's just a big case of "mass hysteria", but barenstein makes me think otherwise.....
 
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pckts

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Let's look at it this way.

Which is more likely:
A. I misremember something from the past.
B. All of time and space has mysteriously changed in order to trick me about some meaningless bits of trivia.

: )
More like

A. We (friend, family, strangers, fellow internet surfers) all collectively misremembered something from the past
 
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Seedz

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#13
Let's look at it this way.

Which is more likely:
A. I misremember something from the past.
B. All of time and space has mysteriously changed in order to trick me about some meaningless bits of trivia.

: )

I see your point.

What baffles me is the fact that its not just one or 2 people mis-remembering something..

Its in the millions.

Otherwise I woulda just scraped it and forgotten it.
 

maxwel

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More like

A. We (friend, family, strangers, fellow internet surfers) all collectively misremembered something from the past

Let's remove the word "all" here... because that's not correct.

A. We, some people, collectively misremember something from the past.
B. All of space and time has mysteriously changed to trick us about some meaningless bits of trivia.


And there are many more serious and difficult arguments to make as well, such as the Mandela Effect must necessarily presuppose a "B" theory of time, which intrinsically gives rise to a host of logically untenable outcomes, such as the inability to account for the continuation of being.
 
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pckts

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Let's remove the word "all" here... because that's not correct.

A. We, some people, collectively misremember something from the past.
B. All of space and time has mysteriously changed to trick us about some meaningless bits of trivia.


And there are many more serious and difficult arguments to make as well, such as the Mandela Effect must necessarily presuppose a "B" theory of time, which intrinsically gives rise to a host of logically untenable outcomes, such as the inability to account for the continuation of being.
Let's add something

A. We, some people, collectively misremember something from the past, in the same way.
 

maxwel

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Let's add something

A. We, some people, collectively misremember something from the past, in the same way.

There is no reason to think "in the same way" is particularly mysterious.

You can show a million people a word with a slight misspelling, and most of them will fail to notice it...
and thus...
fail to remember it correctly.

These principles are all very common, and ordinary, in psychology.
And they are used everyday in marketing, and in lots of other fields.
 
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pckts

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There is no reason to think "in the same way" is particularly mysterious.

You can show a million people a word with a slight misspelling, and most of them will fail to notice it...
and thus...
fail to remember it correctly.

These principles are all very common, and ordinary, in psychology.
And they are used everyday in marketing, and in lots of other fields.
Arguing strictly that reality hasn't changed is a very safe and boring position to take in this thread. I'm not going to argue with you, you were too old to understand barenstein bears anyway.

I obviously understand your position, you aren't introducing anything to me.
 

maxwel

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Arguing strictly that reality hasn't changed is a very safe and boring position to take in this thread. I'm not going to argue with you, you were too old to understand barenstein bears anyway.

I obviously understand your position, you aren't introducing anything to me.



1. "Arguing strictly that reality hasn't changed is a very safe and boring position"

Stating that a position is "boring" does nothing to actually disprove the position.



2. "you were too old to understand barenstein bears anyway."


A. You have no way to know, regardless of my age, whether I'm familiar with the barenstein bears or not.
B. There are hundreds of other examples of the Mandela Effect, that anyone could be familiar with, making your whole point here irrelevant anyway.



3. "I obviously understand your position,"

I have absolutely no personal knowledge of you; so what you may or may not understand is in no way obvious at all.



4. "you aren't introducing anything to me."

Suggesting you are familiar with my points does nothing to actually disprove them.







 
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1. "Arguing strictly that reality hasn't changed is a very safe and boring position"

Stating that a position is "boring" does nothing to actually disprove the position.



2. "you were too old to understand barenstein bears anyway."


A. You have no way to know, regardless of my age, whether I'm familiar with the barenstein bears or not.
B. There are hundreds of other examples of the Mandela Effect, that anyone could be familiar with, making your whole point here irrelevant anyway.



3. "I obviously understand your position,"

I have absolutely no personal knowledge of you; so what you may or may not understand is in no way obvious at all.



4. "you aren't introducing anything to me."

Suggesting you are familiar with my points does nothing to actually disprove them.







1. Stating the position is boring is indicative of how enjoyable it would be for me to discuss it with you.

2. Well I'm not familiar with children's books now, and you were my age "back then". "back then" I discussed the books with many people my age and heard the name and saw it thrown around "a lot"

3. I obviously understand the position that a wormhole hasn't opened up and shifted reality. Your arguments all involve people being mistaken, a very easy (and boring) position to understand. It would be like discussing politics with someone that strictly follows their party line, I already know what you are going to say.

4. Being familiar with your points makes me not want to hear them a second time.
 
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It's funny seeing two argumentative people argue. Usually they are on the same side!