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beastslayer1970 said:
First, that would derail this thread as the OP is not about Romans 7 or our condition after conversion.

Lastly:
Prov 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Psalm 25:14
The secret of the Lord is for those who fear Him,And He will make them know His covenant.


Enjoy the search.
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In other words you are running from explaining your reasoning for your assertation. You try to claim that explaining your statement would derail this thread. You already did that with your own assertion given without explanation. Except for eschatologyical scripture texts in the Bible have narrow versions of explanations!! Now run and hide with your secret behind your assertion.
 
stonesoffire said:
? YHWH is Father. Yeshua is Son....Ruach Kodesh is Holy Spirit.
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And all three are the One God. Jesus said if you see me you have seen the father. The father and I are One. John 1 states that the Word that created the universe came to earth as Jesus.

John Chapter 1 NIV
The Word Became Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testifyconcerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
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All three in one.

Matthew 28 NIV
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
 
So THIS is what Vermont looks like right now..

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Endoscopy said:
All three in one.

Matthew 28 NIV
The Great Commission
16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
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Oneness doctrine?
 
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Muzungu256 said:
did this turn into oneness pentecostal nonsense????????
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I once had a Oneness Pentecostal approach me while I was delivering mail and she tried to convince me that we must be water baptized in "Jesus name only" in order to be saved. She said baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "invalid" and such a person who has not been water baptized in "Jesus name only" remains lost. :rolleyes:

She also told me to go home that night and read Acts 2:38 and baptize myself in the bathtub in "Jesus name only." She had those "Jim Jones" eyes and freaked me out! I was waiting for her to hand me the Kool Aid! :eek:
 
ROFL'ing at that last paragraph... hee hee


mailmandan said:
I once had a Oneness Pentecostal approach me while I was delivering mail and she tried to convince me that we must be water baptized in "Jesus name only" in order to be saved. She said baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "invalid" and such a person who has not been water baptized in "Jesus name only" remains lost. :rolleyes:

She also told me to go home that night and read Acts 2:38 and baptize myself in the bathtub in "Jesus name only." She had those "Jim Jones" eyes and freaked me out! I was waiting for her to hand me the Kool Aid! :eek:
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mailmandan said:
I once had a Oneness Pentecostal approach me while I was delivering mail and she tried to convince me that we must be water baptized in "Jesus name only" in order to be saved. She said baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit was "invalid" and such a person who has not been water baptized in "Jesus name only" remains lost. :rolleyes:

She also told me to go home that night and read Acts 2:38 and baptize myself in the bathtub in "Jesus name only." She had those "Jim Jones" eyes and freaked me out! I was waiting for her to hand me the Kool Aid! :eek:
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What's oneness Pentecostal?
Did you have to read Acts whilst in the bath.
Did you do what you were told. Just as an insurance policy:cool:
 
Endoscopy said:
In other words you are running from explaining your reasoning for your assertation. You try to claim that explaining your statement would derail this thread. You already did that with your own assertion given without explanation. Except for eschatologyical scripture texts in the Bible have narrow versions of explanations!! Now run and hide with your secret behind your assertion.
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This thread has taken many rabbit trails.....what will one more hurt right.....no matter how one slices, dices or twists, Paul went from the least of the Apostles to the least of the saints to the number 1 chief sinner in his mind based upon the righteousness of Christ.......the more time one spends with Jesus....the more vile, deceptive and wicked they will see the flesh that they will continue to pack until the day of redemption I.E. Resurrection/Change <---so called rapture!
 
Endoscopy said:
And all three are the One God. Jesus said if you see me you have seen the father. The father and I are One. John 1 states that the Word that created the universe came to earth as Jesus.

John Chapter 1 NIV
The Word Became Flesh

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testifyconcerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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Like Hebrews states....Jesus is the express image of the invisible Father....the word is Icon in Greek......God pressed out in flesh after laying aside (emptying himself) of the Glory he had feom eternity past......
 
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