The Beast is getting ready for the final conflict, are you ready ???

[posthuman]

There are many other religious leaders in the world, though. The Muslims are still waiting for their Mahdi.

The LDS is waiting for their rider on the white horse too. And the Antichrist will set himself up as above all gods in a temple, right? Well the LDS also think of themselves as gods, no different than God Himself apart from some degree of enlightenment, and they are also expecting to build a temple when this leader appears, AND they literally expect that leader to 'make America great again' and from his dual religious/political throne, to rule over the whole world.

The LDS is not very far behind the RCC in terms of the amount of wealth and power they control over the whole globe, and they field more missionaries and a faster growth rate than any other religious group on earth.

But go ahead and be distracted by hating on Catholics...

 

[dcontroversal]

The antichrist will deny the Father and the Son. I doubt he will be Catholic.

This logic does not hold water based upon the fact that the Pope already has the audacity to claim to be the Vicar and SPOKEMAN for God on earth........with his words = to the words of God

 

[louis]

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

By definition, it appears atheists who deny both Father and Son are antichrists.

 

[tanakh]

Another Bogyman thread. We wont recognise the Beast kingdom or the Antichrist until they turn up which could be in the distant future. The latest candidate was ISIS and they are going down the pan very quickly as the shortest lived Caliphate to date. Meanwhile the sensationalist treadmill keeps turning but while we wait for the next false prediction we can always full back on the RC and the Pope. If you think I am being cynical about all this your right

 

[vic1980]

Another Bogyman thread. We wont recognise the Beast kingdom or the Antichrist until they turn up which could be in the distant future. The latest candidate was ISIS and they are going down the pan very quickly as the shortest lived Caliphate to date. Meanwhile the sensationalist treadmill keeps turning but while we wait for the next false prediction we can always full back on the RC and the Pope. If you think I am being cynical about all this your right

The Holy Scriptures , History , and the reformers already point it out to us tanakh . We can close our eyes and say hey that blood shed of saints never happend , but that would be lying to one self.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

This logic does not hold water based upon the fact that the Pope already has the audacity to claim to be the Vicar and SPOKEMAN for God on earth........with his words = to the words of God

Putting yourself above all other so called gods is not the only description of the antichrist. Fitting a few of the prophecies here and there do not make someone the antichrist. Many people around the world have fit a few of the warnings here and there.

 

[Yeraza_Bats]

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

By definition, it appears atheists who deny both Father and Son are antichrists.

Daniel tells us the antichrist honors a god of fortresses. The antichrist wont be an atheist.

There is a religion that exists merely to deny the Father and the Son-

Quran 19
19:88 And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son."

19:89 You have done an atrocious thing.

19:90 The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation

19:91 That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.

19:92 And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.

19:93 There is no one in the heavens and earth but that he comes to the Most Merciful as a servant

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Quran 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!”.

Quran 5:116 And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.

Quran 5:75 "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers who passed away before him"

Quran 4:171 "O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs."

Others may doubt that Islam will have any ties to the antichrist, and thats fine, they can believe whatever they want to believe. But as for the verse in 1 John, I believe it has more meaning than you give it. Saying that it merely means anyone who doesnt believe in Christ would mean that the antichrist isnt Christian. Obviously. I believe its warning us of something much more specific.

 

[vic1980]

Another Bogyman thread. We wont recognise the Beast kingdom or the Antichrist until they turn up which could be in the distant future. The latest candidate was ISIS and they are going down the pan very quickly as the shortest lived Caliphate to date. Meanwhile the sensationalist treadmill keeps turning but while we wait for the next false prediction we can always full back on the RC and the Pope. If you think I am being cynical about all this your right

The Holy Scriptures , History , and the reformers already point it out to us tanakh . We can close our eyes and say hey that blood shed of saints never occured nor did thee slave trade , but that would be lying to one self.

Not only this But Thee 8 king , Thee Papacy is playing his part as the head , in the body of churches. Uniting all churches to him. Once he has achived his goal and he will , this church will be destroyed. Many belivers will hear God call to come out of her , as thee Holy Scripture stated. But he " thee eight king " along with the false prophet " the individual that pushes the world to worship the first beast " will not be destroyed until the time Christ Returns.

Thee adversary goal , was always to make people worship him , and that they may be destroyed along with him.

Reminder Vatican is not only a nation but a church , the only church that is represented in the United Nations.​

("Sacros[ancta] Lateran[ensis] eccles[ia] omnium urbis et orbis ecclesiarum mater et caput") Inscription on the façade of the Archbasilica of St. John Lateran (Rome).

-Meaning in English-

"Most Holy Lateran Church, of all the churches in the city and the world, the mother and head"

The woman upon the Beast in Revelation​

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[louis]

Daniel tells us the antichrist honors a god of fortresses. The antichrist wont be an atheist.

There is a religion that exists merely to deny the Father and the Son-

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Others may doubt that Islam will have any ties to the antichrist, and thats fine, they can believe whatever they want to believe. But as for the verse in 1 John, I believe it has more meaning than you give it. Saying that it merely means anyone who doesnt believe in Christ would mean that the antichrist isnt Christian. Obviously. I believe its warning us of something much more specific.

I agree with you that there is a single individual Antichrist as described in Daniel, but there are also many Antichrists as defined in 1 John 2:22.
As for the single individual Antichrist, here is my list on the criteria in Daniel and Revelation regarding the individual Antichrist.
He loves lies and hates truth; and so will cast truth to the ground (Daniel 8:12).
He loves war, and will honor his military by paying big for armament increases (Daniel 11:38).
He is a narcissist who magnifies himself (Daniel 8:11 & 11:37), and will require having the mark of his name or number on everyone's forehead or hand in order to buy or sell (Revelation 13:17).
He will also bring about material prosperity (Daniel 8:12 & 25), and so people will love him.

Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.
11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

 

[dcontroversal]

Putting yourself above all other so called gods is not the only description of the antichrist. Fitting a few of the prophecies here and there do not make someone the antichrist. Many people around the world have fit a few of the warnings here and there.

I do not believe the beast (Anti-Christ) so called is the POPE......I do believe the POPE will be the 2nd beast (false prophet) that points to the 1st beast who will come out of ISLAM......

 

[Ellsworth1943]

I do not believe the beast (Anti-Christ) so called is the POPE......I do believe the POPE will be the 2nd beast (false prophet) that points to the 1st beast who will come out of ISLAM......

People need to get away from this Rome thing and look at Islam and the Middle East for the man of sin and the beast kingdom.
I will wait to decide on the false prophet.

 

[MattforJesus]

The beast is not the Pope,for he does not qualify to be the beast,the man of sin.

The man of sin will not be involved with anything that has to do with competition among humans,for it is beneath him,and a hindrance to his agenda to be unique,and greater than any human ever in the history of mankind.

He is only concerned with being the New Age Christ,and ruling the world,and will come in with a bang and establish peace in the Middle East,and work from there doing things that have not been done before,and saying things that have not been said before,for he will understand dark sentences.

He will do what no man has done in the world before,which there has been many Popes,and his position he is going for there is no competition for he is the only one to ever have that position.

The first beast does not come out of Islam,and Islam will fall and be devastated before the beast claims to be God.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms,Babylon,Medo-Persia,Greece,and the Roman Empire.

The first 3 kingdoms will never have dominion again,but the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down,which ten horns come from them,which is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the little horn,the beast,comes from the ten horns,so the beast comes from the Roman Empire.

The Bible says the prince to come,the beast in the future,comes from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.

Since the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down,the Pope will be the second beast,and false prophet,and the Vatican as the headquarters,and the Pope as the spiritual leader,of a unified religious system,before the beast claims to be God.

Then when the ten horns hand their power over to the beast,they will do away with the unified religious system,Mystery Babylon,for they have no need of her anymore.

 

[Ellsworth1943]

The beast is not the Pope,for he does not qualify to be the beast,the man of sin.

The man of sin will not be involved with anything that has to do with competition among humans,for it is beneath him,and a hindrance to his agenda to be unique,and greater than any human ever in the history of mankind.

He is only concerned with being the New Age Christ,and ruling the world,and will come in with a bang and establish peace in the Middle East,and work from there doing things that have not been done before,and saying things that have not been said before,for he will understand dark sentences.

He will do what no man has done in the world before,which there has been many Popes,and his position he is going for there is no competition for he is the only one to ever have that position.

The first beast does not come out of Islam,and Islam will fall and be devastated before the beast claims to be God.

Daniel had a vision of 4 kingdoms,Babylon,Medo-Persia,Greece,and the Roman Empire.

The first 3 kingdoms will never have dominion again,but the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down,which ten horns come from them,which is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the little horn,the beast,comes from the ten horns,so the beast comes from the Roman Empire.

The Bible says the prince to come,the beast in the future,comes from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.

Since the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until God puts them down,the Pope will be the second beast,and false prophet,and the Vatican as the headquarters,and the Pope as the spiritual leader,of a unified religious system,before the beast claims to be God.

Then when the ten horns hand their power over to the beast,they will do away with the unified religious system,Mystery Babylon,for they have no need of her anymore.

You might want to study Bible history.
I believe Jerusalem was overthrown and Israel cease to be a self ruled people by Nebuchadnezzar.

 

[dcontroversal]

People need to get away from this Rome thing and look at Islam and the Middle East for the man of sin and the beast kingdom.
I will wait to decide on the false prophet.

A good study of history leads to my conclusion.....also....the last three popes have bowed to and kissed the Koran which in essence places the top dawg and his religion under the banner of Islam........also, through history it becomes evident that Satan has been continually attempting to bring about the rise of the beast, but it has been hindered by God because it is not yet time......

Horus is Bel is Marduke is Merodach is Jupiter is Zeus is Allah is Satan

When Jesus writes to the church at Pergamos he states that HE knows they dwell where Satan's seat is located......The throne of Zeus was located in Pergamos.....and the men who ruled the kingdoms represented by the false gods listed were worshipped as ? <-----gods and seemingly had limited powers....like the magicians of Egypt who copied the first couple miracles that Moses did......

 

[vic1980]

A good study of history leads to my conclusion.....also....the last three popes have bowed to and kissed the Koran which in essence places the top dawg and his religion under the banner of Islam........also, through history it becomes evident that Satan has been continually attempting to bring about the rise of the beast, but it has been hindered by God because it is not yet time......

Horus is Bel is Marduke is Merodach is Jupiter is Zeus is Allah is Satan

When Jesus writes to the church at Pergamos he states that HE knows they dwell where Satan's seat is located......The throne of Zeus was located in Pergamos.....and the men who ruled the kingdoms represented by the false gods listed were worshipped as ? <-----gods and seemingly had limited powers....like the magicians of Egypt who copied the first couple miracles that Moses did......

All roads lead to Rome

King Herod was appointed King of the Jews by the Roman Senate , he sent out a decree to kill the messiah , it was the roman empire soilders that were sent to kill Jesus when he was born.

dcontroversal Pergamos was under roman empire domain , Emperor Justilian gave his seat & authority to the Bishop of the Church. This is documented in the Justilian Code . you can simply google it and read the codex from the year 538 to 545 , The bishop was given the Seat of the Emperor.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Thee Emperor of Rome did not give his seat & authority to islam

Not only this but Emperor Justilian capital was constantinople the Capital city of Rome. I truly do not understand how can Islam be appointed the first Beast sense these truth are clearly identify by history & scripture. Now will islam be used to persecute kill the people of God , they sure will along with every other non beliver , that will worship the first beast.

Hope this helps , just sharing true historical accounts

 

[tanakh]

The Holy Scriptures , History , and the reformers already point it out to us tanakh . We can close our eyes and say hey that blood shed of saints never happend , but that would be lying to one self.

I never said it never happened. Many evil acts have happened in the name of religion throughout history and still happen by people of all persuasions. As for reformers you should read Luthers views on the Jews of his day and lets not forget that Catholics were persecuted by Protestants as well. Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were not the holiest of people.

My point was not about who persecutes who but a criticism of the endless obsession with the Beast/Antichrist on this site which is driven by sensationalist rubbish written and published by those who have their eyes on their bank accounts rather than on Christ.

 

[oldethennew]

the 'beast' is here, the writing is on the wall. if one can't see or accept it,
then, they belong to him'...

 

[vic1980]

I never said it never happened. Many evil acts have happened in the name of religion throughout history and still happen by people of all persuasions. As for reformers you should read Luthers views on the Jews of his day and lets not forget that Catholics were persecuted by Protestants as well. Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were not the holiest of people.

My point was not about who persecutes who but a criticism of the endless obsession with the Beast/Antichrist on this site which is driven by sensationalist rubbish written and published by those who have their eyes on their bank accounts rather than on Christ.

tanakh this is not upon a endless obsession with the Beast/Antichrist , but looking at the historic evidence that cannot be toss to the side as rubbish.

There is no entity on earth that has done so much harm not only to God people , but all that lived in the world . It was the papal bull Terra Nullius , Dum Diversas , Inter Caetera that brought about stolen lands of indigenous people , murdering stealing of lands and slave trades in thee entire continents of North & South america

It is from that very seat in vatican , the papal wield such power , unlike any other tyrant that has ever existed. Surpassing even the Cesars of Roman Empire.

The Dragon - The Roman Empire & Emperors/Cesars persecuted the saints
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The Beast out of the sea 1st beast - " Church & state united " The Roman empire / thee Roman Catholic Church along with her allies tyrant kings that persecuted the saints , eurpoean union of past.

History has clearly proven evidence that cannot be overthrown , The Kings of the earth never served islam but they have served Rome/Papal kings
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These truth are shared in love for my brethren in Christ Jesus ​

 

[Stranger36147]

The title of the thread reminds me of this movie.

 

[pckts]

The title of the thread reminds me of this movie.

Trump has smalls hands