The Rapture

Bladerunner · Nov 1, 2017

Ah so you are pre-millennial mid-trib......WHY?////

Wait...I'll bet I can guess......The church is Promised not to go through God's Wrath and the first part of Daniel's 70th week is NOT considered God's Wrath,,,by you at least.....

Well, we are in the same building,,,Want to discuss the differences in pre-trib and mid-trib and / or post-trib for that matter.

Ellsworth1943 · Nov 1, 2017

Bladerunner said:

Yea, we should be on the same page. You are the one who needs to figure out your misunderstanding.

Seriously, you will never find two who will agree 100% on all points. We do agree on many points, but then we disagree on some. I could present what I believe and present Scripture as to why, but you would not see it as I do just as I do not see what you see. And I will not spent the next 10 or 12 hours typing that info with 2 fingers.
What upsets me is when people make statements as being fact when there is not enough info to make that judgment.
To use one's logic or say The Spirit showed this to me, does not prove a thing.
An example is the 144,000. There are certain facts given, but not enough to support what is often presented as fact.
We know they are young virgin male Jews. Anything else is just speculation or opinion.

No one is as smart, as wise, as knowing as some think they are.
I will freely admit I may be wrong, but no one has offered Scripture in context to change my mind yet.
And when one person passes judgement on another as not studying enough, not lead by the Spirit, and on and on, that does not lead to the credibility of the one passing judgment.
And when one demands that the person who disagrees with them to stop teaching, that is pride and arrogance on his part.
This is supposed to be a bible discussion forum, not a platform for some to present their beliefs and belittle those who disagrees.

Ahwatukee · Nov 1, 2017

Bladerunner said:

Hey Bladerunner,

As you know, this belief of a Pre-wrath gathering is an on-going misunderstanding of what constitutes God's wrath.

For them, instead of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments representing God's wrath throughout the entire seven years, they make a distinction making seals 1 thru 6 as being tribulation with God's wrath beginning at the 7th seal, followed by the seven trumpets and the seven bowl judgments representing God's wrath. So they leave the seals out

They don't take into consideration that the Lamb/Jesus is the One who is opening the seals, followed by the trumpets, with the bowls completing God's wrath. Jesus is the One who tramples the wine-press of the wrath of God Almighty (Rev.19:15) which he will accomplish via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. They also don't understand the severity of the seals in that, the result of the 1st four seals will be a fourth of the earths population killed, which would be over 1.7 billion people. They claim Satan's wrath and man's wrath, when the entire period is God's wrath.

They haven't listened to me regarding the aorist tense which says "the great day of their wrath has come and who can endure it." The Greek word "ἔρχομαι" translated as "has come" is in the aorist tense which encompasses God's wrath in its fullness, i.e. from beginning to end, which includes the seals that will have previously taken place to the announcement of wrath and the wrath that follows the announcement. Unfortunately they don't understand this concept.

In addition, the sounding of the 7th trumpet takes place in the middle of the seven years and therefore if the church were to be gathered at that time, it would put the church through the majority of God's wrath. So here again they are ignoring the other scriptures that state that we are not appointed to suffer God's wrath and that Jesus rescues us from it.

Their exegesis is incomplete. They don't go any further in order to form a true conclusion, which are based on the reinterpretation of God's wrath and its timing.

Danny2186 · Nov 1, 2017

Ahwatukee said:

Hey Bladerunner,

As you know, this belief of a Pre-wrath gathering is an on-going misunderstanding of what constitutes God's wrath.

For them, instead of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments representing God's wrath throughout the entire seven years, they make a distinction making seals 1 thru 6 as being tribulation with God's wrath beginning at the 7th seal, followed by the seven trumpets and the seven bowl judgments representing God's wrath. So they leave the seals out

They don't take into consideration that the Lamb/Jesus is the One who is opening the seals, followed by the trumpets, with the bowls completing God's wrath. Jesus is the One who tramples the wine-press of the wrath of God Almighty (Rev.19:15) which he will accomplish via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. They also don't understand the severity of the seals in that, the result of the 1st four seals will be a fourth of the earths population killed, which would be over 1.7 billion people. They claim Satan's wrath and man's wrath, when the entire period is God's wrath.

They haven't listened to me regarding the aorist tense which says "the great day of their wrath has come and who can endure it." The Greek word "ἔρχομαι" translated as "has come" is in the aorist tense which encompasses God's wrath in its fullness, i.e. from beginning to end, which includes the seals that will have previously taken place to the announcement of wrath and the wrath that follows the announcement. Unfortunately they don't understand this concept.

In addition, the sounding of the 7th trumpet takes place in the middle of the seven years and therefore if the church were to be gathered at that time, it would put the church through the majority of God's wrath. So here again they are ignoring the other scriptures that state that we are not appointed to suffer God's wrath and that Jesus rescues us from it.

Their exegesis is incomplete. They don't go any further in order to form a true conclusion, which are based on the reinterpretation of God's wrath and its timing.

all you have to do is compare Matthew 24 with revelation 6 and see that the rapture happens AFTER the tribulation. As far as tour Greek goes, this IS YET ANOTHER reason why I use the KJV only. The KJV says “the great day of His wrath IS come”. “IS” is present tense. As in after the tribulation.

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Danny2186 said:

Hi Danny....Try reading it this way.......Pre wrath is Correct but Wrath starts at the opening of the Seals.
Rem, God is in control and everything that happens is in his hands. Therefore everything that happens from here to the end of Revelation is God's Wrath. Therefore if the Church is to NOT go through God's Wrath, then the Rapture would take place at Chapter 4:1. Rem, the "Church" or "Churches" is mention 18 times up to Chapter 4 and not once more until Chapter 22:16.

Revelation 1:19 - " Write the things which thou hast seen," The Revelation (unveiling) of Jesus Christ

Revelation 2-3....."and the things which are"

Revelation 2:1-7 - The letter to the church at Ephesus.
Revelation 2:8-11 - The Letter to the Church of Smyrna.
Revelation 2:12-17 - The Letter to the Church of Pergamos.
Revelation 2:18-29 The Letter to the Church of Thyatira
Revelation 3:1-6 - The Letter to the Church of Sardis.
Revelation 3:7-18 - The Letter to the Church of Philadelphia.
Revelation 3:14-22 - The Letter to the Church of Laodicea.

Revelation 4-22......"and the things which shall be hereafter" Mankinds Future

Revelation 4-5 - The Throne Room of Heaven.

Revelation 6 - Opening the First Six Seals.

Revelation 7 - A summary including the Sealing of the 144,000.

Revelation 8:1-8:5 - The Seventh SEAL

Revelation 8:6-9 - The First Six Trumpets.

Revelation 10-11:14 - A summary including The Two Witnesses .

Revelation 11:15 - The Seventh Trumpet ( the Third Woe)

Revelation 12 - The Woman and Man-Child.
Revelation 13 - The Two Beasts.
Revelation 14 - Prelude to the Bowls.

Revelation 15-16:12 - The First Six Bowls Of Wrath.

Revelation 16:13-16 - A short Summary of Spirits

Revelation 16:17- The Seventh Bowl of Wrath

Revelation 17-18 - The Mystery of Babylon.
Revelation 19 - The 2nd Coming of Christ, The King
Revelation 20 - The1,000 year Millennium.

Revelation 21-22 - Eternity.

Jackson123 · Nov 2, 2017

Bladerunner said:

Church as building or as congregation?

church in the sense of the whole body of believer never disappear

[h=2]Definition of church[/h]1:a building for public and especially Christian worship
2:the clergy or officialdom of a religious body

the word church … is put for the persons that are ordained for the ministry of the Gospel, that is to say, the clergy
—J. Ayliffe

3often capitalized :a body or organization of religious believers: such as a :the whole body of Christians

the one church is the whole body gathered together from all ages
—J. H. Newman

b :denomination

the Presbyterian church

c :congregation

they had appointed elders for them in every church
—Acts 14:23 (Revised Standard Version)

4:a public divine worship

goes to church every Sunday

5:the clerical profession

considered the church as a possible career

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Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Snoozy said:

The Bible is God's Word. There are Hidden goodies (so-called codes) within the text do not change the meaning of what God has said but rather put HIS fingerprint(s) on the pages for verification they came from HIM. To symbolize or allegorize its pages allows any interpretation one might come up with.

The Bible has over 200 types of sentence structure including symbols, Allusions and PUNS,,Yes PUNS!

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Jackson123 said:

Church as building or as congregation?

church in the sense of the whole body of believer never disappear

[h=2]Definition of church[/h]1:a building for public and especially Christian worship
2:the clergy or officialdom of a religious body

the word church … is put for the persons that are ordained for the ministry of the Gospel, that is to say, the clergy
—J. Ayliffe

3often capitalized :a body or organization of religious believers: such as a :the whole body of Christians

the one church is the whole body gathered together from all ages
—J. H. Newman

b :denomination

the Presbyterian church

c :congregation

they had appointed elders for them in every church
—Acts 14:23 (Revised Standard Version)

4:a public divine worship

goes to church every Sunday

5:the clerical profession

considered the church as a possible career

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If you say so, but time is short and if I were you I would study a little more on what Jesus means by His Church.

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Ellsworth1943 said:

Yea, we should be on the same page. You are the one who needs to figure out your misunderstanding.

Seriously, you will never find two who will agree 100% on all points. We do agree on many points, but then we disagree on some. I could present what I believe and present Scripture as to why, but you would not see it as I do just as I do not see what you see. And I will not spent the next 10 or 12 hours typing that info with 2 fingers.
What upsets me is when people make statements as being fact when there is not enough info to make that judgment.
To use one's logic or say The Spirit showed this to me, does not prove a thing.
An example is the 144,000. There are certain facts given, but not enough to support what is often presented as fact.
We know they are young virgin male Jews. Anything else is just speculation or opinion.

No one is as smart, as wise, as knowing as some think they are.
I will freely admit I may be wrong, but no one has offered Scripture in context to change my mind yet.
And when one person passes judgement on another as not studying enough, not lead by the Spirit, and on and on, that does not lead to the credibility of the one passing judgment.
And when one demands that the person who disagrees with them to stop teaching, that is pride and arrogance on his part.
This is supposed to be a bible discussion forum, not a platform for some to present their beliefs and belittle those who disagrees.

Wow was not expecting that.....Guess I will just let you be. Have a good day Sir:

Jackson123 · Nov 2, 2017

Bladerunner said:

Share what you know brother

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

The one thing you have not said is that the Idioms, allusions, symbols, etc in the Bible are all explained elsewhere in the Bible. Yet, we have people who would not listen to that...Are you one of them?

You your-self talk about the: "7 Golden Lampstands" as symbolism yet in Rev 1:20, Jesus tells us they are: well Here let Him tell you: "and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches."

What about the 7 Stars in His hand. Revelation 1:20.."The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches:"

What about the His eyes on Fire and His feet made of Bronze: Rev 2:18.."These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;"

Brass holds Heat without warping and thereby has been an idiom alluded to in the Bible as Judgement. Even Jesus is exemplified or symbolized by a brass serpent? (John 3:14),,,

The sharp two edged sword coming out of his mouth : God created the Heaven and the Earth by Speaking it. His Word will KILL as well. (and people want to doubt his word lol), oops got of target here.

The sixth part of God's Armour as told to us by Paul is the sword. ("And take... the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God."), Ephesians 6:17

If you will look in Revelation 19:15 and 19:21, also tells us His word Kills.

As I stated somewhere else, when you start symbolizing the Bible, one can make the Bible say anything.

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Danny2186 said:

Does not God's wrath use other nations to smite their enemies, etc. He is using the evilness in manto punish those who sin. Rem.. at the beginning of the Seals, Rev. 6, the Church will be in heaven, There will be NO believers left on earth.

Even if you did not count man's wars as God's Wrath, the 6th seal is long after the Chapter 4.

SovereignGrace · Nov 2, 2017

Ahwatukee said:

Hey Bladerunner,

As you know, this belief of a Pre-wrath gathering is an on-going misunderstanding of what constitutes God's wrath.

For them, instead of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments representing God's wrath throughout the entire seven years, they make a distinction making seals 1 thru 6 as being tribulation with God's wrath beginning at the 7th seal, followed by the seven trumpets and the seven bowl judgments representing God's wrath. So they leave the seals out

They don't take into consideration that the Lamb/Jesus is the One who is opening the seals, followed by the trumpets, with the bowls completing God's wrath. Jesus is the One who tramples the wine-press of the wrath of God Almighty (Rev.19:15) which he will accomplish via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. They also don't understand the severity of the seals in that, the result of the 1st four seals will be a fourth of the earths population killed, which would be over 1.7 billion people. They claim Satan's wrath and man's wrath, when the entire period is God's wrath.

They haven't listened to me regarding the aorist tense which says "the great day of their wrath has come and who can endure it." The Greek word "ἔρχομαι" translated as "has come" is in the aorist tense which encompasses God's wrath in its fullness, i.e. from beginning to end, which includes the seals that will have previously taken place to the announcement of wrath and the wrath that follows the announcement. Unfortunately they don't understand this concept.

In addition, the sounding of the 7th trumpet takes place in the middle of the seven years and therefore if the church were to be gathered at that time, it would put the church through the majority of God's wrath. So here again they are ignoring the other scriptures that state that we are not appointed to suffer God's wrath and that Jesus rescues us from it.

Their exegesis is incomplete. They don't go any further in order to form a true conclusion, which are based on the reinterpretation of God's wrath and its timing.

All hail Mr. Know-it-all!!

We're not worthy...we're not worthy...we're not worthy...

Bladerunner · Nov 2, 2017

Danny2186 said:

You keep saying tribulation but let's keep it to Daniel's70th week. It is more specific?

I don't follow you on this... I agree with you that they are not in Daniel's 70th week. They in the Rapture |Gap| Daniel's 70th Week.

Satan has no wrath at chapter 6. REm, Satan only has the powers given to him by GOD. NO MORE/ NO LESS

Rem this that Jesus is the one who is opening the seals. His angels are bringing the four horsemen to center stage. He is sending them to earth to Kill and make War. The Antichrist at this point is still in His infancy (of collecting power) until His power allows Him to control the 10 kingdoms (7 kings) and conquer the world (still the wars brought on by the horsemen). Only when He gains enough power to control these kingdoms can he confirm (enforce) the covenant between Israel and "Death and Hell" or the Beginning of Daniel's 70th week (7 years)

The Rev 11:15 represent an summary of what is or has happened. read down to 11:14 from 11:1. The Seventh Trump is sounded in 11:15. Which means that the 7 Bowls are ready to be delivered. Satan is thrown out of heaven at this time and the Great Tribulation, Jesus speaks of in Matt 24 begins.

CHeck out my post about the time line on page 393. It will help explain.

To anyone listening,,, I am telling you this not to bash what you believe but rather to tell what I believe to be true. I Hope it promotes the spirit of checking these things out as the Bereans did in ACTS 17:11

Allenbee · Nov 3, 2017

The foundation of the greater Exodus.

So I read END TIME scripture like this;

Mathew 24 is JESUS telling us what will happen UP TO .... THE SIGN of HIS presence.
JESUS says YOU (BELIEVERS)...ARE going to hears of wars and reports of wars, so clearly believers are still on earth.
Then HE says the victors of theses wars...will kill some of YOU (BELIEVERS) because of my name.(Again...believers still on earth and seen at Rev 6; 5th seal...until the number is sealed,and the killing CUT SHORT on account of the chosen ones (144,00O Messianic Jews and the great crowd who SEE the SIGN of our Lord's presence. Rev 7 "in sight of the throne and the lamb" (Greek to English)

Then JESUS says all believers are to flee before satan is cast down to earth..."the disgusting thing causing desolation".
Some of those believers in JUDEA flee at the very latest time there is to flee. "Pray that your flight might not be in winter nor on the sabbath".

At Math 24 ;29 shows our Lord appears immediately after the tribulation of those days AND the stars falling from the skies and the heavenly bodies shaken is Satan and his demons cast down as a result of the war in heaven.
Rev 12 confirms this; READ v4 and v 7, and then SEE believers are still on earth as those still preaching in the CITIES are now to flee to the wilderness WHERE they are protected during satans short period of time. 3 1\2 years of GOD'S WRATH ...LED by JESUS.

So we are not targeted for destruction IF we OBEY the lion from the tribe of JUDAH...our Lord JESUS.
BELIEVERS are grafted in to the root. WE are part of the tribe of JUDAH, as it began at our Lord's first appearance.
REMEMBER...ONLY believers in Jesus fled Judea at 66 CE...so believers will flee again. (EXODUS...Get OUT of BABYLON my people). Rev 18 all h;v4.

So...once we believe that...then we can flee even today already, but only as a congregation of at least 1000 plus. Why wait for "the disgusting thing causing desolation" to stand in the holy place, as we KNOW satan is soon to be cast down. Hell on earth !

THIS is the result when the TRUE Ecclesia flee's to the mountains WORLDWIDE... as ONE in our LORD.

Isaiah 2;

[FONT=&quot]2 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah (Believers in our Lord, Messianic Jew and Messianic gentile), and Jerusalem. (HOLY land where our Lord returns to).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the house of JHWH shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. (Well... has that ever happened before)? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: (The voice in the wilderness...preaching the good news of the KINGDOM of GOD on earth.)

For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. (When HE arrives).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the Lord.(The WHOLE house of Jacob...sons of Abraham. The prophesied "Israel of GOD".

For the timing of this beautiful event...SEE the great tribulation below;
READ v 6-22 and compare to Rev 6; 6th seal.[/FONT]

Bogadile · Nov 3, 2017

It is an established fact to me that the seals are part of the wrath of the Lamb, because it is the Lamb who is opening the seals.

Allenbee · Nov 3, 2017

Yes one can say that, because GOD CONTROLS who attacks who. Best to be out of the cities.
He used Nebuchadnezzar to destroy unfaithful Israel, and HE used Rome at 70 CE. Like the Lord said"not a stone upon a stone" depicting total destruction.
AND... GOD made the Roman army suddenly retract at 66CE, which allowed our Lord's believers to flee.
"Those in Judea" who did not OBEY our Lord to flee were killed or led off into slavery as history records.
The massive MIRACLE that came about from those who fled the destruction then... is that from them the gospel is spread worldwide today and the largest religion on earth.

The greater miracle today when we flee, is the EXODUS to the promised land.
NO we do not all exodus to Israel... that is the HOLY LAND and has its own NATION.
At end times our Lord rules the whole earth and over ALL NATIONS.
So to me... we flee to our own countries wilderness, as GOD CREATED IT, to be shared and groomed as created.
So we flee satans evil polluting concrete jungle... TARGETED for destruction as the great tribulation is WORLDWIDE.
The earth splits in 3... and the CITIES of the NATIONS fell. Rev 16;19.

No way does GOD have any need to destroy HIS creation, so it's easy to say... the wilderness is the place of safety and the prepared place, from the founding of the world.

"Flee to the mountains" is before our Lord returns, and "flies to the wilderness" is the absolute latest time to flee.

The Amish have their own towns out of Babylon for centuries now, but our towns will be like a Messianic Kibbutz, and FREE from the mark of the wild beast. Now if we are protected by GOD... is this not the greater EXODUS !!!
AND sets the platform for Har'Magedon.

So one will flee...the other abandoned OR "one will be taken along...the other abandoned".
Abandoned... to eating and drinking and marrying with the confirmed drunkards. Death trap, taking the mark of the wild beast.

Waiting for a pretrib rapture !!!!
But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Now see a prepared people

Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them their food in due season?
46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. (So is this not ALL the proof you need, that when the Lord comes to earth... HIS BELIEVERS are on earth.
A great crowd... NO MAN was able to number
47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.(GOD owns the earth).
48

Endoscopy · Nov 3, 2017

SovereignGrace said:

The reason the idea of the temple being rebuilt is the abomination of desolation when the anti Christ seats himself on the judgment seat of God proclaiming himself to be God. That implies the temple being rebuilt so that seat can be recreated. Also to have animal sacrifices that requires the temple.

Endoscopy · Nov 4, 2017

Jackson123 said:

Which Presbyterian denomination. There are many.

Presbyterian denominations in North America

Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church - around 39,000 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Covenanter & Seceder
Bible Presbyterian Church - around 3,500 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
partially: Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches - around 15,000 members - Evangelical/Orthodox, Dutch Reformed/Presbyterian, Calvinist
Cumberland Presbyterian Church - around 87,000 members - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian
Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America - around 6,500 members - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian
Evangelical Assembly of Presbyterian Churches in America- 73 churches in the USA
ECO (Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians) - more than 40,000 members, 208 churches and 305 Pastors - Evangelical, Presbyterian
Evangelical Presbyterian Church - around 160,000 members - Evangelical, Presbyterian
Korean-American Presbyterian Church - around 53,000 members - Orthodox/Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian, Calvinist
Korean Presbyterian Church in America - around 55,000 members - Moderate/Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian
Orthodox Presbyterian Church - around 30,000 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Church in America - around 367,033 members - Evangelical, Conservative, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Church in Canada - around 225,000 members - Presbyterian
Presbyterian Church (USA) - around 1,760,200 members - Liberal, Presbyterian
Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America - around 7,800 members - Orthodox, CovenanterPresbyterian, Calvinist
partially: United Church of Canada - around 463,000 (as of 12/31/2012 per the UCC website)members - Liberal, Presbyterian & Congregational & Methodist
Smaller Presbyterian denominations
American Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Christian Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Korean-Presbyterian, Calvinist
Covenant Presbyterian Church
Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Evangelical Reformed Church in America - Evangelical, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Federation of Reformed Churches - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Paedocommunion
Free Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Reformed Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Puritan Reformed Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church - Hanover Presbytery - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Reformed Presbyterian Church in the United States - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Theonomic
Reformed Presbyterian Church General Assembly - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Reformed Presbytery in North America - Orthodox, Covenanter Presbyterian, Calvinist
Upper Cumberland Presbyterian Church - less than 1000 members - Conservative, Presbyterian, Four-Point Calvinist
Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States - Orthodox, covenanting Presbyterian, Calvinist

Jackson123 · Nov 4, 2017

Endoscopy said:

Which Presbyterian denomination. There are many.

Presbyterian denominations in North America

Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church - around 39,000 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Covenanter & Seceder
Bible Presbyterian Church - around 3,500 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
partially: Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches - around 15,000 members - Evangelical/Orthodox, Dutch Reformed/Presbyterian, Calvinist
Cumberland Presbyterian Church - around 87,000 members - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian
Cumberland Presbyterian Church in America - around 6,500 members - Liberal, Presbyterian, Arminian
Evangelical Assembly of Presbyterian Churches in America- 73 churches in the USA
ECO (Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians) - more than 40,000 members, 208 churches and 305 Pastors - Evangelical, Presbyterian
Evangelical Presbyterian Church - around 160,000 members - Evangelical, Presbyterian
Korean-American Presbyterian Church - around 53,000 members - Orthodox/Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian, Calvinist
Korean Presbyterian Church in America - around 55,000 members - Moderate/Evangelical, Korean-Presbyterian
Orthodox Presbyterian Church - around 30,000 members - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Church in America - around 367,033 members - Evangelical, Conservative, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Church in Canada - around 225,000 members - Presbyterian
Presbyterian Church (USA) - around 1,760,200 members - Liberal, Presbyterian
Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America - around 7,800 members - Orthodox, CovenanterPresbyterian, Calvinist
partially: United Church of Canada - around 463,000 (as of 12/31/2012 per the UCC website)members - Liberal, Presbyterian & Congregational & Methodist
Smaller Presbyterian denominations
American Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Christian Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Korean-Presbyterian, Calvinist
Covenant Presbyterian Church
Covenant Reformed Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Evangelical Reformed Church in America - Evangelical, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Federation of Reformed Churches - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Paedocommunion
Free Presbyterian Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Presbyterian Reformed Church - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Puritan Reformed Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church - Hanover Presbytery - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Reformed Presbyterian Church in the United States - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist, Theonomic
Reformed Presbyterian Church General Assembly - Orthodox, Presbyterian, Calvinist
Reformed Presbytery in North America - Orthodox, Covenanter Presbyterian, Calvinist
Upper Cumberland Presbyterian Church - less than 1000 members - Conservative, Presbyterian, Four-Point Calvinist
Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States - Orthodox, covenanting Presbyterian, Calvinist

it just a sample of what church is, can be building can be denomination.

One of the Sample of denomination is Presbyterian.

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