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First of all, it's not mine to judge. But my opinion in regards to me is that if I "deliberately keep on sinning" I can expect judgment and a raging fire. That's what Hebrews 26 tells me.
But if I slip up and commit a sin—as we all, unfortunately, do occasionally—I don't think that's the same thing as to "deliberately keep on sinning." Nonetheless, I don't want to test this. I try to avoid sin.
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So I answered your question. Let me ask you one: What's your rationale for ignoring Hebrews 10:26-27?
But if I slip up and commit a sin—as we all, unfortunately, do occasionally—I don't think that's the same thing as to "deliberately keep on sinning." Nonetheless, I don't want to test this. I try to avoid sin.
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So I answered your question. Let me ask you one: What's your rationale for ignoring Hebrews 10:26-27?
Make what you want of the situation.
The truth is each one judges as they see fit.
Turning on the light is just that, showing things for what they are.
I did not actually condemn or encourage, I merely stated the behaviour displayed
appeared consistent throughout the time of the twitter account.
It is up to those who feel this is a terrible thing to observe or not to make their
judgements. What does interest me is your discussions and ways of handling things.
What do you do when someone is caught doing something they feel bad about?
The biggest rebuke is saying nothing, but just showing what is. That is enough, and
so it is here. We can only change the future, and see how people sow into it, and
encourage them to walk in faith and the ways of Jesus.
The truth is each one judges as they see fit.
Turning on the light is just that, showing things for what they are.
I did not actually condemn or encourage, I merely stated the behaviour displayed
appeared consistent throughout the time of the twitter account.
It is up to those who feel this is a terrible thing to observe or not to make their
judgements. What does interest me is your discussions and ways of handling things.
What do you do when someone is caught doing something they feel bad about?
The biggest rebuke is saying nothing, but just showing what is. That is enough, and
so it is here. We can only change the future, and see how people sow into it, and
encourage them to walk in faith and the ways of Jesus.
Let's back up a little further in Hebrews 10, and also look at the verses beyond what I quoted above. I'll insert my own comments and opinions in red: (Feel free to point out my errors if you perceive any.)
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28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (Paul compares judgement for Christians to judgement under the law, and states that Christians will be judged more severely for trampling the Son of God underfoot)
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19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, (Paul is talking about Christians here, not Jews)
21 and since we (Christians) have a great priest over the house of God, (Jesus) 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.
24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching. (Paul is encouraging Christians to do God's will; avoid sin)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Paul warns what will happen if you fail to do God's will--that is, deliberately keep on sinning)
21 and since we (Christians) have a great priest over the house of God, (Jesus) 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.
24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching. (Paul is encouraging Christians to do God's will; avoid sin)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Paul warns what will happen if you fail to do God's will--that is, deliberately keep on sinning)
28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? (Paul compares judgement for Christians to judgement under the law, and states that Christians will be judged more severely for trampling the Son of God underfoot)
Honestly I don't remeber what branch of manuscripts it is, I should go and find it... I first read it in an Biblical Archeology Magazing that had a photot of the original manuscript and a zoomed in photo of the single usage, and confirmed it myself with a digital copy of the manuscript around 5 years ago in my studies. with or without that, to me it is of little consequence as YHWH stated His name over 6,000 times in the OT, and Yahshua could not have had a name that didnt exist when He was born. To me not a point of contention, I just stated my case because you brought it up.
Here is a single example;
1 John 5:7-8 Proper and original text from the 1[SUP]st [/SUP]century:
1 John/Yahanan 5:7-8, "For there are three which testify: The Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are of one accord."
Altered text from the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] century:
1 John/Yahanan 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
1 John 5:7-8, “Because there are three who bear witness: the Spirit, and the water, and the blood. And the three are in agreement."
Comma Johanneum refers to a short clause in John 5:7-8 in the Latin Vulgate text which was transmitted since the Early Middle Ages. It was later included in the Textus Receptus Greek in support of trinity doctrine. The comma does not appear in the older Greek text. The ‘comma’ is displayed below in italics.
v.7 Because there are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
v.8 And there are three that bear witness in earth the Spirit, and the water, and the blood. And the three are in agreement.
1 John 5:7 Parallel Verses
New International Version
For there are three that testify:
New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses
English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:
New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
International Standard Version
For there are three witnesses —
NET Bible
For there are three that testify,
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And The Spirit testifies because The Spirit is the truth.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
There are three witnesses:
Jubilee Bible 2000
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
King James 2000 Bible
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
American King James Version
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
American Standard Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.
Darby Bible Translation
For they that bear witness are three:
English Revised Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Webster's Bible Translation
For there are three that bear testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.
Weymouth New Testament
For there are three that give testimony, the Spirit, the water, and the blood;
World English Bible
For there are three who testify:
Young's Literal Translation
because three are who are testifying in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these, the three, are one;
Verses 5:7-8 -- In the King James Version and later renditions of the Latin Vulgate, the received Greek and Latin texts include the words: “ ...In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth... ”. This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any authentic Greek manuscript written earlier than the Fifteenth Century of this current era. It does not appear in any of the oldest Greek manuscripts; neither does it even appear in the earliest Latin translations. This text is not cited by any of the Greek or early Latin writers, even when the subject they wrote of would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, Page 803, The Jerusalem Bible, New Testament, Page 419. Other scholars and researchers have frankly admitted that these words are a deliberate forgery that was never a part of the original inspired Holy Scriptures.
Also I condem none, I love His word and have my beliefs based in His word, I am open to others views but they have to be complete and can't be isolationg certian passages, but the entire council. I dont preach His law for Salvation, for if that were so we would all fall short. To quickly sum it up without making this post even longer;
Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.”
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"
*“Law” is word # G3551 – nomos, Strong's Concordance, nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law, Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: nomos, Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os), Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law, Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of, law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law;, metion: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general
I think people isolate and twist Paul's words to grab hold of a doctrine of anomia, just as Peter said;
2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."
Not saying you are, just these doctrine devoid of obedience to what He says.
For in the fainl message to man it is clear those who enter have faith in Yahshua/Jesus and guard His Commands;
Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."
Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of יהוה and the belief of יהושע. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”
It is the word.
Here is a single example;
1 John 5:7-8 Proper and original text from the 1[SUP]st [/SUP]century:
1 John/Yahanan 5:7-8, "For there are three which testify: The Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are of one accord."
Altered text from the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] century:
1 John/Yahanan 5:7-8, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
1 John 5:7-8, “Because there are three who bear witness: the Spirit, and the water, and the blood. And the three are in agreement."
Comma Johanneum refers to a short clause in John 5:7-8 in the Latin Vulgate text which was transmitted since the Early Middle Ages. It was later included in the Textus Receptus Greek in support of trinity doctrine. The comma does not appear in the older Greek text. The ‘comma’ is displayed below in italics.
v.7 Because there are three who bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
v.8 And there are three that bear witness in earth the Spirit, and the water, and the blood. And the three are in agreement.
1 John 5:7 Parallel Verses
New International Version
For there are three that testify:
New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses
English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:
New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:
International Standard Version
For there are three witnesses —
NET Bible
For there are three that testify,
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And The Spirit testifies because The Spirit is the truth.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
There are three witnesses:
Jubilee Bible 2000
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.
King James 2000 Bible
For there are three that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these three are one.
American King James Version
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
American Standard Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.
Darby Bible Translation
For they that bear witness are three:
English Revised Version
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Webster's Bible Translation
For there are three that bear testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.
Weymouth New Testament
For there are three that give testimony, the Spirit, the water, and the blood;
World English Bible
For there are three who testify:
Young's Literal Translation
because three are who are testifying in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these, the three, are one;
Verses 5:7-8 -- In the King James Version and later renditions of the Latin Vulgate, the received Greek and Latin texts include the words: “ ...In heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth... ”. This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any authentic Greek manuscript written earlier than the Fifteenth Century of this current era. It does not appear in any of the oldest Greek manuscripts; neither does it even appear in the earliest Latin translations. This text is not cited by any of the Greek or early Latin writers, even when the subject they wrote of would naturally have led them to appeal to its authority. The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, Page 803, The Jerusalem Bible, New Testament, Page 419. Other scholars and researchers have frankly admitted that these words are a deliberate forgery that was never a part of the original inspired Holy Scriptures.
Also I condem none, I love His word and have my beliefs based in His word, I am open to others views but they have to be complete and can't be isolationg certian passages, but the entire council. I dont preach His law for Salvation, for if that were so we would all fall short. To quickly sum it up without making this post even longer;
Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law.”
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"
*“Law” is word # G3551 – nomos, Strong's Concordance, nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law, Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ, Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine, Transliteration: nomos, Phonetic Spelling: (nom'-os), Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law, Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of, law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law;, metion: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general
I think people isolate and twist Paul's words to grab hold of a doctrine of anomia, just as Peter said;
2 Peter/Kepha 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."
Not saying you are, just these doctrine devoid of obedience to what He says.
For in the fainl message to man it is clear those who enter have faith in Yahshua/Jesus and guard His Commands;
Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."
Revelation 14:12-13, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of יהוה and the belief of יהושע. And I heard a voice out of the heaven saying to me, Write, Blessed are the dead who die in the Master from now on. Yes, says the Spirit, in order that they rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.”
It is the word.
No one could ever become an unbeliever because of anothers actions or they were basing their faith on people, loveme.
As you testified...the conversion we experience is just that. An experience. Nothing can stamp out that faith, and am thinking that this could be the mustard seed Jesus spoke of. The new beginning of a new life. And a new world to come.
As you testified...the conversion we experience is just that. An experience. Nothing can stamp out that faith, and am thinking that this could be the mustard seed Jesus spoke of. The new beginning of a new life. And a new world to come.
So I answered your question.
Perhaps you don't agree with my response. But I did answer your question. Look back at my post above.
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Let me ask you one: What's your rationale for ignoring Hebrews 10:26-27?
Okay, perhaps I've misunderstood you. So you do actually believe that:
If you interpret this passage to mean something other than judgement for deliberately keeping on sinning, then what do you base your interpretation on?
Perhaps you don't agree with my response. But I did answer your question. Look back at my post above.
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Let me ask you one: What's your rationale for ignoring Hebrews 10:26-27?
Okay, perhaps I've misunderstood you. So you do actually believe that:
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26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Hebrews 10:26-27)
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Hebrews 10:26-27)
If you interpret this passage to mean something other than judgement for deliberately keeping on sinning, then what do you base your interpretation on?
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Lol, there is no need to go to a high priest if you dont sin.
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There is no more sacrifice for sin because jesus died once.
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I cant have full assurance if I have to believe that if I sin in the future, my salvation will be revoked.
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no more sacrifice (if your right) means I could be ver get salvation back. I would be lost forever by one intentional sin.
again,. Next.
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There is no more sacrifice for sin because jesus died once.
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I cant have full assurance if I have to believe that if I sin in the future, my salvation will be revoked.
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no more sacrifice (if your right) means I could be ver get salvation back. I would be lost forever by one intentional sin.
again,. Next.
Perhaps? No, what really happened is you made a false accusation based upon exactly nothing I either stated or implied. Try being an honest Christian with others here.
Do you sin on purpose, or is it accidental? If you sin on purpose (and you do) why does this not apply to you? You too then will be consumed by a raging fire, you're an enemy of God.
Enemies of God refers to the lost, not to the saved. These never possessed salvation, as they prove.
Do you sin on purpose, or is it accidental? If you sin on purpose (and you do) why does this not apply to you? You too then will be consumed by a raging fire, you're an enemy of God.
Enemies of God refers to the lost, not to the saved. These never possessed salvation, as they prove.
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Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”
Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”
Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”
James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."
Revelation 3:21, “To him who overcomes I shall give to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”
Revelation 12:11, “And they overcame him because of the Blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their witness, and they did not love their lives to the death."
Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”
Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”
Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”
James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."
Revelation 3:21, “To him who overcomes I shall give to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”
Revelation 12:11, “And they overcame him because of the Blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their witness, and they did not love their lives to the death."
To me the passsge is not addressing believers but non beleiving Hebrews and not genuine believers.
They knew full well who Jesus was. His works, his sacrifice.
Yet they rejected Jesus and the sacrifice for sin through him.
To me the sin is
John 16:7-9
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
Jesus is the atonement for sin and no longer the old sacrifices.
Judas Iscarriot is a prime example.
As John said
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
Genuine believers
1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
this verse is saying that habitual sin is not consistent with the Christian walk.
If someone professes faith and yet consistently sins then they need to be told what Paul’s says in Romans. If they reject that then they are using the grace of God to sin. That being the case to just a meal ticket and I would question their faith.
However a genuine believer can walk in a pattern of sin as a result of various things, like strongholds, hurt, pain and so on.
They don’t lose salvation but is sure affects the relationship with God but we know God will seek him out and if chastening is needed it will carried out.
Jesus said
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
I know you were p4t but I hope you don’t me giving my thoughts.
They knew full well who Jesus was. His works, his sacrifice.
Yet they rejected Jesus and the sacrifice for sin through him.
To me the sin is
John 16:7-9
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;
Jesus is the atonement for sin and no longer the old sacrifices.
Judas Iscarriot is a prime example.
As John said
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
Genuine believers
1 John 3:9
9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
this verse is saying that habitual sin is not consistent with the Christian walk.
If someone professes faith and yet consistently sins then they need to be told what Paul’s says in Romans. If they reject that then they are using the grace of God to sin. That being the case to just a meal ticket and I would question their faith.
However a genuine believer can walk in a pattern of sin as a result of various things, like strongholds, hurt, pain and so on.
They don’t lose salvation but is sure affects the relationship with God but we know God will seek him out and if chastening is needed it will carried out.
Jesus said
John 10:27-30
27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
I know you were p4t but I hope you don’t me giving my thoughts.
I agree with you H. The Sabbath is about doing His will and not doing our own. His will is that all the world would be saved. He is asking for workers in the field (world) to go and minister His reconciliation with all mankind through the power of His Spirit which is the true Sabbath rest. Again, out of the anointing who is Holy Spirit and lifting up the Cross of His blood and then resurrection.
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Yes! I agree!! That is, if by "sin in the future" you mean deliberately keep on sinning after you've received the knowledge of the truth.
I'm pleased that we finally agree on this important matter.
I'm pleased that we finally agree on this important matter.
May Yah bless you and keep you!
Yes I agree fully, and want to add that yes His goal is to fill His Kingdom, and we all have differnt roles in serveing Him in that goal;
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 12:12-18, "For just as the body is a unity, but yet has many members; and though all its members are many, they are one body: so it is with Messiah. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Yahdaim or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit; For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot should say: Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say: Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the sense of smelling? But now YHWH has set the members, each one of them in the body, as it has pleased Him."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 100:1-5, "Make a joyful shout to YHWH, all you lands. Serve YHWH with gladness! Come before His presence with singing! Know that YHWH is our Father! It is He Who made us, and not we ourselves. We are His people, and the sheep of His pasture. Enter into His gates with thanksgiving, and into His courts with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His Name! For YHWH is righteous, His mercy is everlasting, and His truth endures throughout all generations!"[/FONT]
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Yes I agree fully, and want to add that yes His goal is to fill His Kingdom, and we all have differnt roles in serveing Him in that goal;
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 12:12-18, "For just as the body is a unity, but yet has many members; and though all its members are many, they are one body: so it is with Messiah. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Yahdaim or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit; For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot should say: Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say: Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the sense of smelling? But now YHWH has set the members, each one of them in the body, as it has pleased Him."
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Wow. Just wow. Do you ever go back and read what you've written in your posts? If you do, do you feel good about it? What on my part warranted this post of yours?
Are you really a preacher? I mean a real minister for a church? If so, do you speak to members of your flock in this manner?
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Finally, as to the question in my post that apparently offended you so much:
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Do you, or do you not interpret Hebrews 10:26-27 to mean something other than judgement for deliberately keeping on sinning, then what do you base your interpretation on? (No need for you to comment on my person or accuse me of being an enemy of God for asking you this question.) I'm just interested in finding out how interpret these two verses of Hebrews, and why.
Are you really a preacher? I mean a real minister for a church? If so, do you speak to members of your flock in this manner?
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Finally, as to the question in my post that apparently offended you so much:
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Do you, or do you not interpret Hebrews 10:26-27 to mean something other than judgement for deliberately keeping on sinning, then what do you base your interpretation on? (No need for you to comment on my person or accuse me of being an enemy of God for asking you this question.) I'm just interested in finding out how interpret these two verses of Hebrews, and why.