Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

It's nice that you stand up for victimisation. You are someone who seems very good at victimising others. So what do you call that? Hypocrisy? You are one of the biggest hypocrites here.

Change your ways. Or react angrily. Well, I do wonder, which will you choose? You are one of the brick walls.

How about proving your point. Otherwise, all you have done was just spout off.

I state what I believe, If people do not agree, that is on them. I do not attack people.

Disagreeing is not attacking. If peter would just disagree, there would not be a discussion, But peter can not sto pthere./ He has to attack, Belittle., Slander and hate.

 

[mj007]

Like I said friend, you are a brick wall. Change your ways.

How about proving your point. Otherwise, all you have done was just spout off.

I state what I believe, If people do not agree, that is on them. I do not attack people.

Disagreeing is not attacking. If peter would just disagree, there would not be a discussion, But peter can not sto pthere./ He has to attack, Belittle., Slander and hate.

 

[PJW]

Well Jude spoke about a group of people who came into the church and wanted their cake (SALVATION) and eat it too (THE WORLD) and wanted the rest of the church to follow them. He called them guilty of turning the grace of God to licentiousness.

Because Jude knew as John did, that whoever wishes to live like the world (sins) has never seen God, nor have they ever known him.

He also Knew as James did, that whoever makes a claim they have faith (are saved) but Has No Work, they are decieved, their faith is dead. They are hearers of the word not doers. Thus they were NEVER SAVED

I think we see the picture, they all agreed. Whoever lives in sin is not of God but is of the world.

because Jude also said that they were condemned already,. Nothing about them losing salvation.

So these people trying to teach salvation can be lost because of sin. They are not reading ther word of God right. Nor do they know God.

Good post.
Perhaps, instead of writing "lose salvation by sin", we write "remain salvation-less by sin"?"

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Peter picked up the accusation last evening and ran with it after DC said it was not him.

Then he picked up the hacked post and apparently posted a link to it after the moderator deleted the post. He is the one that is carrying on the assault loveme.

You may be siding with Peter because you feel you are on the same side?

This thread is not by works. That is works of our own self effort. We all are saying this is not the way of the Spirit led person. My words. Others are saying it in their own words.

Peter seems to me...all about self effort. And takes reproof personally rather than by the scripture offered.

More psychology than truth of scripture.

Peter has done that since he got here. your wasting your tim weight Loveme, if it was myself or Dcon that did what Peter did she would be all over us, But it is her buddy who does no wrong

 

[loveme1]

Hi loveme1...Yes I agree, I hope and pray the Peter and DCon get some peace out of this, but you can not expect people not to state their view...I understand well that some may like to add to the pot, but I found it very hard not to address Peter on here about it because I believe it was wrong, maybe I should of PM Peter now I think about it, I never posted my comment with in mind for all to see, I just saw Peter...What I found so wrong was that it was all done when DCon was not here to defend himself, I have no more to say on the matter, all else that puts me in the same boat as PJ, talking behind ones back...xox...

Hi Rosemary, I understand each have their opinion but no one should fan flames at times like this.. so many behave poorly and are high fived for it but now Peter is receiving onslaught I think we need to share water to out the flames. For all concerned.

To be fair Peter did it openly so DC was always going to be able to come and defend etc..

i think humility is going to be important.. if DC proves it was not him but a hacker then an apology would be needed.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Like I said friend, you are a brick wall. Change your ways.

What you want me to start slandering people and just telling people off with no proof of what I am talking about?

 

[stonesoffire]

Peter has done that since he got here. your wasting your tim weight Loveme, if it was myself or Dcon that did what Peter did she would be all over us, But it is her buddy who does no wrong

I've said all I am going to say EG.

Let the haters hate. Am tired.

 

[preacher4truth]

It's simple: Put them all on ignore and those who pander to them and their false gospels.

 

[PJW]

Let me answer that and debunk the erroneous idea that Christians have quit being sinners, with one Bible quote and one observation; since we all know that violating the will of GOD is sinning.

1 Peter 2:13-15 (NKJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--


The posted speed limit, most certainly is an ordinance of man.
VIOLATING CITY OR STATE ORDINANCES ARE SINS.

You have in effect said that you neither believe in repentance nor rebirth.

Those with the Spirit of God obey the laws of man...that agree with the laws of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
If men do things they consider sin, Jesus is not their saver...yet.

Repentance and rebirth are still available to them, as is the gift of the Holy Ghost and the Comforter.
Not to mention the mind of Christ.

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 55:6-7, “Seek YHWH while He may be found; call upon Him while He is near; Let the wicked forsake his own way and the unrighteous man his own thoughts. Let him return to YHWH, and He will have mercy upon him; return to our Father, for He will abundantly pardon.”

[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]


[/FONT]

 

[PeterJens]

None of what you have just posted is a kind response to PennEd, who didn't attack you personally in any way.

There's the rub Peter. I will echo his question. Why did you not feel remorse from posting an accusation against a brother from someone who obviously has hatred for dcon?

What is in your heart?

Firstly my friend, I love dc, that he might know Christ love and victory in His life, and
walk in purity and holiness.

Secondly, dc is quite happy like a lot of you, to condemn me to hell, say I am satanic,
and basically evil.

And the point about dc is almost innocent. He is guilt of swearing and getting worked up.
You have missed the whole point. His answer was he was hacked.

So immediately he recognises as sense of shame about this behaviour here on cc, but not
on twitter amongst his right wing friends. You are like lambs to the slaughter, not seeing
the games people are playing.

And the point is truth and reality not why people use it.

It is no wonder you have no sense of truth and objectivity, just being nice to people who
you call friends. Righteousness is not about being nice, it is about what is evil and what is
good. Very nice people sent the Jews to the gas chambers, because they were so evil.

It is how this propoganda works. The enemy are labelled evil worthy of death, and the good
people ok, worthy of respect and being left alone. This is how the enemy works, not the Kingdom
of God.

Imagine also what great sin have I commited? Showing what someone wrote. Wait a minute that
is not a sin, that is walking in the light, speaking the truth.

But you are accusing me of sin, hatred, bitterness and evil. There has to be something wrong here.
The righteous are evil, and the evil are good. Sounds like what the people of Israel did before they
were judged. So there is a warning here, beware which side you end up on, because in your blindness
you can get very lost.

 

[loveme1]

Peter has done that since he got here. your wasting your tim weight Loveme, if it was myself or Dcon that did what Peter did she would be all over us, But it is her buddy who does no wrong

Peter decided to share something about DC here.. Peter did not instigate.. Peter’s intent is for him to know and share.. I really don’t think Peter deserves this.

But that is not limited to Peter and I would not jump on the bandwagon to get you banned if it were you..

 

[PJW]

I wanna add to this that Knowing to do good, and not doing it is also a sin. So that ship will sink quickly!

Maybe they mean the sins listed in 1 corinthians 6:9? Dont know. Seemed like a blanket statement of being sinless, which is FALSE!

Please explain what leads you to believe that obedience to God all the time is a false notion?

 

[BillG]

Not at all.
It is written..."In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Cor 4:4)
Our God is not of "this world", and neither are we to be.
It is written..."For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God." (Col 3:3)
What resides in my skin is Christ.
It is written..."I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." (Gal 2:20)


Are you "free"?
While you are still a servant of sin, (John 8:34), you will not be "free".
Freedom is available to you, but you will need to crucify the flesh, with the affections and lusts". (Gal 5:24)
That crucifixion happens at baptism. (Rom 6:3-6)
Freedom follows. (Rom 6:7)

I did ask you a few questions earlier.
I haven’t seen a response and If i have missed it then please accept my apologies but I will ask again.

What Church do you go to?
Does it have a website?
If so can you post a link.
I would be interested to see what the church you go to is all about and it’s doctrine.

ta

 

[Magenta]

Please explain what leads you to believe that obedience to God all the time is a false notion?

I saw it said that knowing to do good, and not doing it, is sin. Did you miss that? So being obedient to God all the time, as you say, is not on the table when sins of omission are present.

 

[loveme1]

How about proving your point. Otherwise, all you have done was just spout off.

I state what I believe, If people do not agree, that is on them. I do not attack people.

Disagreeing is not attacking. If peter would just disagree, there would not be a discussion, But peter can not sto pthere./ He has to attack, Belittle., Slander and hate.

Please stop attacking someone when you do all those things you accuse Peter of.

The hypocrisy is becoming more apparent.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please stop attacking someone when you do all those things you accuse Peter of.

The hypocrisy is becoming more apparent.

My God, The dude attacked me, it was not even provoked.

please stop loveme, Your bias is getting out of hand.

 

[zeroturbulence]

I saw it said that knowing to do good, and not doing it, is sin. Did you miss that? So being obedient to God all the time, as you say, is not on the table when sins of omission are present.

damned if you do... damned if you don't..

 

[joefizz]

Firstly my friend, I love dc, that he might know Christ love and victory in His life, and
walk in purity and holiness.

Secondly, dc is quite happy like a lot of you, to condemn me to hell, say I am satanic,
and basically evil.

And the point about dc is almost innocent. He is guilt of swearing and getting worked up.
You have missed the whole point. His answer was he was hacked.

So immediately he recognises as sense of shame about this behaviour here on cc, but not
on twitter amongst his right wing friends. You are like lambs to the slaughter, not seeing
the games people are playing.

And the point is truth and reality not why people use it.

It is no wonder you have no sense of truth and objectivity, just being nice to people who
you call friends. Righteousness is not about being nice, it is about what is evil and what is
good. Very nice people sent the Jews to the gas chambers, because they were so evil.

It is how this propoganda works. The enemy are labelled evil worthy of death, and the good
people ok, worthy of respect and being left alone. This is how the enemy works, not the Kingdom
of God.

Imagine also what great sin have I commited? Showing what someone wrote. Wait a minute that
is not a sin, that is walking in the light, speaking the truth.

But you are accusing me of sin, hatred, bitterness and evil. There has to be something wrong here.
The righteous are evil, and the evil are good. Sounds like what the people of Israel did before they
were judged. So there is a warning here, beware which side you end up on, because in your blindness
you can get very lost.

Nay peter you see it as being condemned I have spoken much truth in the spirit today not only to you but some others,but if you can't accept truth there is no hope for you,it's sad that people still choose vanity over God by declaring perfection when they are seeking hurt on others which is wicked,I could lie to myself too but I am saved through Jesus and God's humble servant and I will speak when he leads me to I wish many would stop delighting in pride and blindness,and tearing apart the bible with bits and pieces to make a new word of God for one self,I cannot do that,nor do I seek it,but I praise God to be able to speak truth today for without him I am nothing.

 

[PeterJens]

He has to attack, Belittle., Slander and hate.

There is a problem here. And it is hurt. The truth hurts.
eg loves the defamation of character.

He stopped because it simply did not work and he could find nothing to actually attack
me on.

We have a case in point here. I presented evidence that dc was the source of the tweets
and it represented his approach.

This is like saying a thief should never be caught, and if caught never prosecuted and if prosecuted
never sentenced. Justice is about rules and judgement.

The whole culture to which these believers belong is so anti discipline or correction, even a minor
issue of swearing is like the most terrible crime. I have seen this in Islam. In islam to speak the
truth about someone so their standing changes in peoples eyes is a grevious offence.

This totally corrupts a society because evil people can do whatever they like knowing no one can
speak the truth about them. It takes a long time, for this feudal power structure to collapse but
it does, because the most corrupt destroy each other in the end. It is also not the kingdom of heaven.

So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
Matt 10:26

For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open.
Mark 4:22

We are a holy people, where love truth and righteousness are our lives.
We are shielded by the breastplate of righteousness and the shield of faith.

I praise God on bended knee that each day He teaches me more about His ways
and the ways people are easily deceived and oppose His will and ways while claiming
to know the King personally. Halleluyah to the King of Kings

Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed by they name.
Thy Kingdom come they will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us our daily bread, and
forgive our sins and we forgive those who sin against us.
Lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one,
For thine is the Kingdom,
the power and the glory
Forever and ever Amen.