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Yes he was banned before, but changed his screen name. Oncefallen gives a brief explanation of what happened on; [h=3]Does the Holy Spirit convict the born again believer of sin? post #629 3hrs ago.[/h]
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Everyone who thinks what they do has no bearing on their salvation on the Day of Judgment says "sin does not matter".
But sin does matter on that day if a believer stops believing and as a result goes back to the world in willful sinning. That person will be met with the wrath of God along with every other unbeliever on the Day of Judgment, not met with the mercy and grace of Christ.
...and you are under law when you sin. The only reason the believer who is continuing in his faith is not 'under the law' when he sins is because, through his faith, Christ wipes away the guilt of the law. That's why we need to keep believing. Stop believing/trusting in the blood of Christ to forgive your sin and you have nothing to save you from the penalty of your sin (Hebrews 10:26).
You are correct, it is my choice. We all must choose to continue to believe in the blood of Christ so that we don't come under the penalty of the law, which, as you correctly say, does not discriminate in any way shape or form:
James says that when we sin we are convicted by the law as transgressors. That's why we need to continue to cling to Christ in faith. So we won't suffer the just and indiscriminate penalty of transgressing the law. Stop believing and you have no sacrifice remaining to save you from the wrath of God for breaking the law (Hebrews 10:26).
So, sin does matter, when that sin is the result of no longer believing in Christ.
But sin does matter on that day if a believer stops believing and as a result goes back to the world in willful sinning. That person will be met with the wrath of God along with every other unbeliever on the Day of Judgment, not met with the mercy and grace of Christ.
...and you are under law when you sin. The only reason the believer who is continuing in his faith is not 'under the law' when he sins is because, through his faith, Christ wipes away the guilt of the law. That's why we need to keep believing. Stop believing/trusting in the blood of Christ to forgive your sin and you have nothing to save you from the penalty of your sin (Hebrews 10:26).
You are correct, it is my choice. We all must choose to continue to believe in the blood of Christ so that we don't come under the penalty of the law, which, as you correctly say, does not discriminate in any way shape or form:
"8If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF,” you are doing well. 9But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. " (James 2:8-9 NASB)
James says that when we sin we are convicted by the law as transgressors. That's why we need to continue to cling to Christ in faith. So we won't suffer the just and indiscriminate penalty of transgressing the law. Stop believing and you have no sacrifice remaining to save you from the wrath of God for breaking the law (Hebrews 10:26).
So, sin does matter, when that sin is the result of no longer believing in Christ.
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but you do not teach a works based gospel? Lol.
More proof you teach that one must stop or at the dry least cut way down on sin to be saved.
oh wait, it can;t be cut way down, God said one sin disqualifies us, You better be perfect man. Otherwise, your doomed.
So we ar under law.. But we are not under law. WHich is it man? Again, you just proved you teach law not grace.
Colossions 2 is your answer, Jesus took what was against us (the law) and nailed it to the cross.
another way of saying we are under law. Thanks man, nb it no thanks, I will hold on to the promise of God, and take it in faith, and place my trust in him, not my ability to keep from sin.
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Continuing to believe is not Paul's definition of the works gospel. But if you could post the verse or passage that says it is we'd done here. Surely, since you are saying 'continuing to believe to continually be saved' is a works gospel there is scripture that says that. Can you post it?
But at least you acknowledge the 'sin doesn't matter' point I said exists in your doctrine.
But at least you acknowledge the 'sin doesn't matter' point I said exists in your doctrine.
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Believers are not under the penalty of the law, because we believe in Jesus.
Because we trust in him, he wipes away our sin guilt when we break the law. Only the former believer who has departed the faith, and thus, lost the sacrifice of Christ (Hebrews 10:26), is under the penalty of the law. That's why we need to keep believing.
Hebrews 7:25 explains how the ministry of the High Priest must continue for it to be effective. But it can't continue for the person who no longer believes in it (for faith is how you access the ministry of Christ--Romans 5:2). They will be lost. That's why we have to continue to believe in order to continue to have the ministry of Christ operating on our behalf and rescuing us from the penalty of our sin.
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Here is a song to get the workers off to a, well, off to a start this morning. Good luck (well, anyhow, you know what I mean)!
Chorus:
I'm comin' up on the rough side of the mountain,
I must hold to God, His powerful hand.
I'm comin' up on the rough side of the mountain,
I'm doin' my best to make it in
[video=youtube;f7Ug4tGyuCg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Ug4tGyuCg[/video]
I'm comin' up on the rough side of the mountain,
I must hold to God, His powerful hand.
I'm comin' up on the rough side of the mountain,
I'm doin' my best to make it in
[video=youtube;f7Ug4tGyuCg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Ug4tGyuCg[/video]
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People who trust in Christ and recieve his promises are not under law. Because God saved them from the law by his sacrifice, And he was faithful and just to cleans us from all unrighteousness, and gave us eternal life like he ASKED him to the moment we trusted him,
you do not just lose that faith, Perople who walk away and say that they no longer believe Jesus is the christ were never saved to begin with, Again 1 John is not just for Gnostics, it is for all people who were a walking part of any church, and left, having repented of their beliefs in christ, and have become deniers of christ.
John said they were never of us, never saved, Nebver given eternally life. Never anyth9ing but people who walked with a body of believers and aced like they were saved, but never took that step of faith.
because if they had, as john said, they NEVER WOULDF HAVE LEFT.
you do not just lose that faith, Perople who walk away and say that they no longer believe Jesus is the christ were never saved to begin with, Again 1 John is not just for Gnostics, it is for all people who were a walking part of any church, and left, having repented of their beliefs in christ, and have become deniers of christ.
John said they were never of us, never saved, Nebver given eternally life. Never anyth9ing but people who walked with a body of believers and aced like they were saved, but never took that step of faith.
because if they had, as john said, they NEVER WOULDF HAVE LEFT.
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continuing to believe is not Paul's gospel. Paul's gospel said that we are born again by Gods mercy, not by our
continuing to believe.
He said we were sealed the moment of faith until the day of redemption, Not until we lost faith. He said we we justified freely, not as a downpayment ofr our continued faith.
And if sin matters, we are all doomed, Because the grace of God is meaningless. We have to earn our right to heaven.
Good luck with that my friend. Good luck.
continuing to believe.
He said we were sealed the moment of faith until the day of redemption, Not until we lost faith. He said we we justified freely, not as a downpayment ofr our continued faith.
And if sin matters, we are all doomed, Because the grace of God is meaningless. We have to earn our right to heaven.
Good luck with that my friend. Good luck.
