Not By Works

[stonesoffire]

Yes, I am sorry Stones, but I normally only see his posts when he is quoted. I should have gone back to the original post where he misrepresented what I did, and responded to his assertion directly, or just made my observation without quoting anyone. Spam (as far as I know) is an acronym for stupid pointless annoying message. It is also often connected with advertising, and attributed to a bot. I did not want any of those associations, particularly to Scripture, but also to the person. I merely pointed out to them that what they had done was considered poor forum etiquette, known as flooding

No problem Magenta...I remembered what happened yesterday. Spinning again on your original post.

 

[stonesoffire]

Wait.....what does that mean?

That.....doesn't..... sound quite right.

we do...do acts...I know it sounded funny but I kinda liked it anyway.

Just like the book name Acts.

 

[Stephen63]

and mine got the best of me too this morning. And I was having such a good day till I came here.

Do you really need me to tell you what to do about THAT?!?

 

[Magenta]

you do know you sound exactly like grace7?

exactly

that's too much

follow the word of God. EXPOSE false teaching and not everyone is a heretic

not at all

and defending those who are, by saying everyone is a heretic to someone, is nonsense and proves absolutely nothing

Most can find some error or something to pick at in another's theological position, so saying everyone is a heretic to someone else is not senseless, but an astute observation.

 

[BillG]

Sounds like emotional slavery.

It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.

I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.

You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.

I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.

My mother was like that. Not sure if you have ever read any of my testimony on this thread. If not quick summary.
Ancestory Muslim, fell pregnant with me and hence black sheep of the family. I was meant to aborted, she was even in the abortion room.

She blamed me. She used to beat me quite serverely and the only time she expressed any love was when she was p*****d.
If I didn't respond the same way then emotional outbursts followed by a beating, which was quite often.
She tried to play me off against my granny and step grandad who loved me.
Nothing I ever did was good enough.
My two younger brothers never experienced any of that. The youngest was her favourite and 2nd was my step dads favourite.

She threw me out when I was 14 (35 years ago) and spread vicious rumours, told family I was gay and had AIDS.
We didn't speak for years either.

We now have a restored relationship (happened over a period of years and it was tough but we got there).
She has come to Jesus and now believes his claims, not just a prophet but the Son of God who died for. She truly is a saved person.

I am not saying the above to make anyone feel bad if this has not happened with abusive relationships.
I just want to encourage that God can work good in things no matter how bad things are.

I would also say that if after all efforts on my side with my mum, if she showed not intent to restore then I myself would have withdrawn and leave it at that as well.

If a person is not willing to reconcile and is only intersted in controlling us and trying to heap guilt on us, then a time will come to let go and withdraw.

I am glad you are free.

 

[stonesoffire]

Do you really need me to tell you what to do about THAT?!?

Nope...not that stupid. Just admitting. Keep your thoughts to yourself and give me some scripture.

 

[Stephen63]

Most can find some error or something to pick at in another's theological position, so saying everyone is a heretic to someone else is not senseless, but an astute observation.

Sooo..... if you're sayin' G777 was right & you agree with him.....

Does that mean I can..... call you one???

That seems to be what you're saying.....

 

[Stephen63]

My mother was like that. Not sure if you have ever read any of my testimony on this thread. If not quick summary.
Ancestory Muslim, fell pregnant with me and hence black sheep of the family. I was meant to aborted, she was even in the abortion room.

She blamed me. She used to beat me quite serverely and the only time she expressed any love was when she was p*****d.
If I didn't respond the same way then emotional outbursts followed by a beating, which was quite often.
She tried to play me off against my granny and step grandad who loved me.
Nothing I ever did was good enough.
My two younger brothers never experienced any of that. The youngest was her favourite and 2nd was my step dads favourite.

She threw me out when I was 14 (35 years ago) and spread vicious rumours, told family I was gay and had AIDS.
We didn't speak for years either.

We now have a restored relationship (happened over a period of years and it was tough but we got there).
She has come to Jesus and now believes his claims, not just a prophet but the Son of God who died for. She truly is a saved person.

I am not saying the above to make anyone feel bad if this has not happened with abusive relationships.
I just want to encourage that God can work good in things no matter how bad things are.

I would also say that if after all efforts on my side with my mum, if she showed not intent to restore then I myself would have withdrawn and leave it at that as well.

If a person is not willing to reconcile and is only intersted in controlling us and trying to heap guilt on us, then a time will come to let go and withdraw.

I am glad you are free.

I'm glad yours worked out. I'm still waiting with mine.

 

[loveme1]

Somebody said this to me once and she was right on. You hide behind scripture. Give me your thoughts. Then we know what you believe.

Hide behind scripture? No I believe it over you and share it freely. The Holy Spirit brings Truth to mind.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Most can find some error or something to pick at in another's theological position, so saying everyone is a heretic to someone else is not senseless, but an astute observation.

well that is not true

life is far broader than this forum

off this forum, I really hardly can find anyone that agrees with that statement and I know lots of folks

it's simply a poor excuse to defend being told that the words of Christ are not as important as Paul's, because Christ had not yet died

anyone agreeing with that, is definitely treading on heretical ground

while this forum is an interesting slice of what people believe, I have pretty much concluded it is actually a teaching platform for some who have no other outlet and when that teaching is refuted, well, names are called and people are called not Christian or full of malice and slander or even told not to post

the sites G7 posts from are not accepted Christian beliefs. they are from this new breed of false self appointed apostles and teachers, many with a NAR base. these people are changing the Bible one book at a time

 

[stonesoffire]

Hide behind scripture? No I believe it over you and share it freely. The Holy Spirit brings Truth to mind.

Nobody knows what point you are making by just quoting scripture unless you bold it or something. Then you should comment, but I am not a mod here...so do what you like.

 

[Stephen63]

Hide behind scripture? No I believe it over you and share it freely. The Holy Spirit brings Truth to mind.

I'd much rather hide behing the Word than to hide behind a lie, wouldn't you loveme1?

 

[stonesoffire]

well that is not true

life is far broader than this forum

off this forum, I really hardly can find anyone that agrees with that statement and I know lots of folks

it's simply a poor excuse to defend being told that the words of Christ are not as important as Paul's, because Christ had not yet died

anyone agreeing with that, is definitely treading on heretical ground

while this forum is an interesting slice of what people believe, I have pretty much concluded it is actually a teaching platform for some who have no other outlet and when that teaching is refuted, well, names are called and people are called not Christian or full of malice and slander or even told not to post

the sites G7 posts from are not accepted Christian beliefs. they are from this new breed of false self appointed apostles and teachers, many with a NAR base. these people are changing the Bible one book at a time

You don't do those things? huh...

conveniently removed?

 

[loveme1]

Nope...not that stupid. Just admitting. Keep your thoughts to yourself and give me some scripture.

You just told me the opposite... you are funny stones..

 

[Meggido]

In a post to him yesterday, I said if he raises a club to club people, it will just raise clubs back at him. Or similar words.

I agree this CLUB has been raised agaisnt me....get it!?!?!.. LOL

Dear Valued and Beloved Readers...

The game is escalating...here is wisdom and good advice...

Never reply to 2 posters having a conversation about you in an open thread and act like you are not even able to see what they are posting....no here is the hard part.....you cannot reply to them in an open thread or Private message even when you know what they are discussing is something 1 of the posters said to you in several Private Messages, that you never acknowledged or confirmed.... and it is obvious she shared the info via PM to poster number 2, who is projecitng things to play along....This is especially true, when they throw around 5 fold ministry gifts titles they think you are, that you also never acknowledged or confirmed about yourself....always reply to such ear tickling for what it is and say nice things back to them in private messages...

Dear readers... You must resist the urge to reveal what the 1 poster said in PM's about many others on an open thread....they do this to burn you and get you banned....

Dear readers be skeptical when with people saying you are a 5 fold ministry gift, like a Prophet, especially on private messages.....when someone does this under the guise of deceit is not God or the Holy Spirit confirming a call on your life....This is called ear tickling and appealing to ones pride through the use of flattery...Those of us in real life ministry call it a spirit of passive-aggressive control and it is a by-product of the Jezebel Spirit and accuser of the brethren Spirit that seeks to control anyone who speaks the truth of God...and take the focus of the truth of God and instead focus on the faults of the man of God.....




Dear readers,

I would ask yourself if several here should be reported for blatant and malicious attempts to call me something I never claimed or acknowledged to be in a private message or open thread.....

Prophet I am not...proclaiming the truth....I am....

 

[loveme1]

I'd much rather hide behing the Word than to hide behind a lie, wouldn't you loveme1?

It is our ultimate Truth from GOD my friend.. we will give our live gladly to hold fast.

 

[stonesoffire]

You just told me the opposite... you are funny stones..

Whatever shoe fits the feet.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No. When you love and forgive and they love and forgive, peace will be won.
Our peace was not won by our Lord saying that when He was treated better, He would bring us peace. Our peace was won by a love greater than we can comprehend.

one has to repent and admit his own issues also,

saying f we stop doing something we will have peace when he does not have to stop, r admit his own actions, is quite hypocritical

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You don't do those things? huh...

conveniently removed?

well hardly

I would have you to correct me as you are apparently jumping at what you perceive as a chance to do so

I have not made ONE single comment to, or about you since rejoining and yet you still have to throw a dart

now if you can actually find a post where in I called someone names, or said they were full of malice and slander or I called someone here a heretic, then please refer me to it

I won't hold my breath

no

I don't do those things. I know full well you do not care for my dislike of extra biblical teaching or disagreement with some of what you post, but it might be wise not to use that as a base for false accusations

it's not helpful. you wanna defend G7? be my guest but do so without sniping at me and saying I do things that I don't

 

[Grace777x70]

Most can find some error or something to pick at in another's theological position, so saying everyone is a heretic to someone else is not senseless, but an astute observation.

I agree...

People are free to believe whatever they want in the sense that they are beings "of choice".

It doesn't mean that it's true or not true.

People are free to believe that Daffy Duck and Donald Duck are the 2 witnesses in the book of Revelation but that doesn't make it true no matter how much they say it.

Where people are free to believe in what they choose is in the "non-essentials" - like tongues, healing, end of days, kinds of food one eats...observing one day over another....etc.

If you dis-agree with anything that "they" and their group believes - they feel it is their right to verbally attack you and slander you. It's just the flesh acting up.

These I don't interact with anymore as it just causes strife and divisions and leave them in the hands of the Lord.

This concept is talked about by Paul in Romans 14:1-23

Romans 14:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.


Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.

What is non-negotiable is the essentials which is in the Deity of Christ, His Person and His finished work on the cross and resurrection.

That we are saved by Christ's death and blood that was shed for us. And this is all based on grace through faith in Him alone. He is the Savior.

Ephesians 1:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace

Works do not save us nor keep us saved. We do good works as a fruit of His life being manifested in and through us to a hurt and dying world that needs to see the love and grace our loving father and Lord have for them.

We are "living epistles" known and read by all men.

Let's let our light shine ( which is Christ Himself in us ) before men that they may see the good works and glorify God. ( to glorify God means to ascribe "goodness" and value to Him )