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well call me an ox then, but God says do not muzzle the ox who treads the grain
I don't look like an ox thankfully...
and pretty sure no one else he rages at does eitherhe let me have it...just his flesh having a hissy fit
no name is often so straight on that he also offends people
you go no name
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Sounds like emotional slavery.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
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Sounds like emotional slavery.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
hard because we love our mothers
I thank God for my husband. he is not easily manipulated and we are straight forward with each other
sometimes I could clobber him and vice versa I'm sure, but he's a patient man and I have learned from him
and surprisingly, I've rubbed off abit on him too
I too have a mother like that
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well call me an ox then, but God says do not muzzle the ox who treads the grain
I don't look like an ox thankfully... and pretty sure no one else he rages at does either
he let me have it...just his flesh having a hissy fit
no name is often so straight on that he also offends people
you go no name
I don't look like an ox thankfully...
and pretty sure no one else he rages at does eitherhe let me have it...just his flesh having a hissy fit
no name is often so straight on that he also offends people
you go no name
(._.')
but thank you
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Sounds like emotional slavery.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
It's difficult taking care of a narcissist. Constantly a catch-22.
I understand..... I don't visit nor speak to my mom anymore.
You might be surprised to discover she's verbally backstabbing you while you're gone as well.
I dealt with the guilt trip for years..... but now I'm free.
we all love ( hopefully) love our moms, but we are all also human.
No one on CC has ever said that. I don't know why you're saying that.
Not true. That's faith when you rely on God.
Again, not true. Disobedience is refusing to do what the NT commands as well as doing things your own way.
Rebellion is disobedience. Teaching false doctrine is disobedience.
Giving new meanings to important things like faith, grace, repentance, & so on is disobedience & outright rebellion.
Not true. That's faith when you rely on God.
Again, not true. Disobedience is refusing to do what the NT commands as well as doing things your own way.
Rebellion is disobedience. Teaching false doctrine is disobedience.
Giving new meanings to important things like faith, grace, repentance, & so on is disobedience & outright rebellion.
We are obviously expected to obey at least four laws even after salvation. Acts 15:19 “Therefore I conclude[SUP] 57 [/SUP] that we should not cause extra difficulty[SUP] 58 [/SUP] for those among the Gentiles[SUP] 59 [/SUP] who are turning to God,15:20but that we should write them a letter[SUP] 60 [/SUP]telling them to abstain[SUP] 61 [/SUP] from things defiled[SUP] 62 [/SUP] by idols and from sexual immorality and from what has been strangled[SUP] 63 [/SUP] and from blood.
Of course we may do this on occasion, but we must strive not to do it continuously.
Of course we may do this on occasion, but we must strive not to do it continuously.
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Romans 10:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.
Philippians 3:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9[/SUP]and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
The law is what people did or didn't do for their own righteousness.
All works-based righteousness is based on this truth and it is NOT the gospel of the grace of God in Christ. It is a religion.
Being "obedient to the faith" is believing in Christ and His work for us for life and living.
Notice here that even the "good moral living" - law-keeping priests need to be "obedient to the faith". The keeping of the law of Moses is NOT the same as being "obedient to the faith".
Acts 6:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith.
Pagans/Gentiles also need to be "obedient to the faith" and believe in Christ and what He has done for life and living.
Romans 1:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
All people of all types are called to be "obedient to the faith" - which is belief in Christ alone for life and living.
Romans 16:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.
Philippians 3:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9[/SUP]and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
The law is what people did or didn't do for their own righteousness.
All works-based righteousness is based on this truth and it is NOT the gospel of the grace of God in Christ. It is a religion.
Being "obedient to the faith" is believing in Christ and His work for us for life and living.
Notice here that even the "good moral living" - law-keeping priests need to be "obedient to the faith". The keeping of the law of Moses is NOT the same as being "obedient to the faith".
Acts 6:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The word of God kept on spreading; and the number of the disciples continued to increase greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests were becoming obedient to the faith.
Pagans/Gentiles also need to be "obedient to the faith" and believe in Christ and what He has done for life and living.
Romans 1:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
All people of all types are called to be "obedient to the faith" - which is belief in Christ alone for life and living.
Romans 16:26 (NASB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP] but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith;
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oh my lands Grace
you are hardly in the position to state who does and who does not have a zeal for God
perhaps YOU have that zeal and your aim is off
just me being straightforward. I will never aim arrows from behind the bushes
my post to Stephen concerning what u said is a general comment as you have quite a few admirers on here as you well know
you have cultivated them and they are your special little garden
just take it as face value
I may be a wild rose bush, not cultivated, but did you know wild roses have smaller thorns?
you are hardly in the position to state who does and who does not have a zeal for God
perhaps YOU have that zeal and your aim is off
just me being straightforward. I will never aim arrows from behind the bushes
my post to Stephen concerning what u said is a general comment as you have quite a few admirers on here as you well know
you have cultivated them and they are your special little garden
just take it as face value
I may be a wild rose bush, not cultivated, but did you know wild roses have smaller thorns?
The whole point to me is not to ignore her or never speak to her again because of her demands for some sort of perfection I can never attain to in her eyes. The whole point to me is to love her and to do away with the pride that demands to be treated better.
I cannot have such blessings come to me through her abuses and not love her! It is like the one man said - Josephs brothers did more good for him through their hatred and contempt than they ever would have if they had treated him well.
When I receive such a blessing as I did this morning, it's like He blessed me through her. And I find myself thanking Him for her because He used her to grow my own faith! It's quite bizarre that He will bring us to thank Him for someone who is demanding that we be perfect and always telling us we cannot do anything right! How strange...!
I cannot have such blessings come to me through her abuses and not love her! It is like the one man said - Josephs brothers did more good for him through their hatred and contempt than they ever would have if they had treated him well.
When I receive such a blessing as I did this morning, it's like He blessed me through her. And I find myself thanking Him for her because He used her to grow my own faith! It's quite bizarre that He will bring us to thank Him for someone who is demanding that we be perfect and always telling us we cannot do anything right! How strange...!