Not By Works

[stonesoffire]

So then believe His Testimony... lvm1 is not telling you to Keep the Commandments... Lvm1 is not saying those that Love GOD keep them.. consider it for a moment.... I'm relaying the message.. it is of no private interpretation.. I know not why GOD chose me to share His Truth... im the least... but I must share it... I seek nothing.. I was actually hiding the treasure and told off.. told I must remember my First love... so here I am.. sharing and hope many will be dazzled by the light I share which I deserve not... so I know the Grace and love of GOD and His long suffering.

We will be overcome with dazzling light when we see Him in all His glory. I sincerely hope you fulfill these words and give the light of truth to others for there are those who are so thirsty for that living water just around you.

So go...Most all here are His already.

Speak out of anointing...

 

[UnderGrace]

You said you have taught little ones.

No matter.

I'm not a teacher.

 

[JIMBO43]

it was inspired by the old holy texts by king james' scribes and scholars it was never made "plain and simple" if you are referring to the new "modernized" versions that take away from God's word then that is quite different,they are made"plain and simple" to be mislead with.

it sound like your the kinda of person that just disagrees with anyone and anybody,, really easy translations have been made to mislead people ?.. are you sure you dont suffer with false accusation syndrome your self,,, coz youve done a pretty good job of that upto now..

 

[UnderGrace]

Why would you go to hell? This is very confusing?

If you think after everything that came to pass and being drawn, broken made New.. that a Greek meaning of the word Keep can draw me away... then you are mistaken.

It would be better for GOD to take my life than me draw back from His Love and Truth bestowed upon me.

I love GOD because He loved me first.. I take His grace not for granted...

i will serve my first love always and forever...

No deceit will draw me from my Master.

if I go to hell I will love Him for eternity... for I was lost and He found me even after all my sin.

 

[JIMBO43]

See....my point is made...I can directly quote scripture and you reject and make snide remarks.....just another working for troll....many are noticing this about you.....good luck with the working for lot.....

so because she supports good works in the bible shes a troll ?.. really dc is that the right thing to say ?.. are you sure you have Jesus doing all your works ?

 

[loveme1]

My heart is not harden and it will not be harden when the love of Christ Jesus and

His sacrifice on the cross is in full view and accepted as the truth and not obstructed by interjecting the law.

I am trying to understand your teachings in light of the clear Gospel and scripture.

Are you referring to the ten commandments, these cannot be separated from the others.

By the Testimony of the Messiah they can.. from stone tablets to our inwards... by the Grace of GOD through Faith.

The veil was ripped when the Messiah ...



Matthew 27


48And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.




The New Covenant is GOD's law written on our hearts and minds... The Messiah Gave His Testimony and then suffered much for us..

The saints Keep the Commandments of GOD and Have His Testimony... because He teaches us the Commandments and how to love GOD.

We are made New to worship in Spirit and Truth and our obedient heart is pleasing to Heavenly Father.

The just will live by Faith.

 

[loveme1]

Why would you go to hell? This is very confusing?

Then be not confused anymore by me... others will know what is meant by it.

 

[loveme1]

We will be overcome with dazzling light when we see Him in all His glory. I sincerely hope you fulfill these words and give the light of truth to others for there are those who are so thirsty for that living water just around you.

So go...Most all here are His already.

Speak out of anointing...

It is not so, and you can not redirect me... or know what I do away from cc.. GOD calls I serve.

 

[TruthTalk]

What is the definition of grace?
Attribute: https://www.gotquestions.org/definition-of-grace.html

The Bible teaches that grace is completely unmerited. The gift and the act of giving have nothing at all to do with our merit or innate quality (Romans 4:4; 11:5–6; 2 Timothy 1:9–10). In fact, the Bible says quite clearly that we don’t deserve God’s salvation. Romans 5:8–10 says, “God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. . . . While we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son.”

Grace is actively and continually working in the lives of God’s people. Paul credited the success of his ministry not to his own substantial labors but to “the grace of God that was with me” (1 Corinthians 15:10). Grace is the ongoing, benevolent act of God working in us, without which we can do nothing (John 15:5). Grace is greater than our sin (Romans 5:20), more abundant than we expect (1 Timothy 1:14), and too wonderful for words (2 Corinthians 9:15).


"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John1:14

 

[stonesoffire]

It is not so, and you can not redirect me... or know what I do away from cc.. GOD calls I serve.

ok, loveme...

In this you are right.

 

[UnderGrace]

The new law written on our hearts is Jesus not the ten commandments.

The new testament scripture teaches about.....

The law of love (John 13:34)
The law of liberty (James 1:21)
The law of the Spirit of Life
For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. (2 Cor 3:6)

It is His essence within us (grace) that allows us to live in these new laws that bring life not death like the laws of the old testament

I am unsure if we are saying similar things or are very different things?

By the Testimony of the Messiah they can.. from stone tablets to our inwards... by the Grace of GOD through Faith.

The veil was ripped when the Messiah ...



Matthew 27


48And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.




The New Covenant is GOD's law written on our hearts and minds... The Messiah Gave His Testimony and then suffered much for us..

The saints Keep the Commandments of GOD and Have His Testimony... because He teaches us the Commandments and how to love GOD.

We are made New to worship in Spirit and Truth and our obedient heart is pleasing to Heavenly Father.

The just will live by Faith.

 

[stonesoffire]

A question for all. Not trying to teach or cause division but curious.

Has anyone ever seen that the true definition of humility is to believe the truth revealed in the Word?

 

[loveme1]

The new law written on our hearts is Jesus not the ten commandments.

The new testament scripture teaches about.....

The law of love (John 13:34)
The law of liberty (James 1:21)
The law of the Spirit of Life
For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. (2 Cor 3:6)

It is His essence within us (grace) that allows us to live in these new laws that bring life not death like the laws of the old testament

I am unsure if we are saying similar things or are very different things?

GOD made a New Covenant... He would put His law on our hearts..

Jeremiah 31


31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 

[JIMBO43]

I know someone you can talk to about this Jim. I have no knowledge to give about this. If you want I can give you his name by pm. He's on Facebook too. Are you?

also, he's a minister from Tampa, fl. Not just some fly by night off the wall type.

June 16th, 2017 #378

JIMBO43

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Re: The holy spirit

post date june 16th im giving a prediction that there will be another bomb attack soon in the uk and london should be on full elert.. i ment to say terror attack ie someone being run over.. two days later and guess what

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Monday
, 19 June

2017 Finsbury Park attack
HORROR ON THE STREETS Finsbury Park mosque attack – what happened, where did it take place and who was behind it?

London Mayor Sadiq Khan branded the incident a 'horrific terrorist attack' after ten people were injured and one killed..


as you can see here im not lieing look at the date of my post june 16th and look at the date of the attack in london... i asm not lieing to you...





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[stonesoffire]

June 16th, 2017 #378

JIMBO43

Senior Member

Join DateMarch 7th, 2016Posts4,214 Rep Power25

Re: The holy spirit

post date june 16th im giving a prediction that there will be another bomb attack soon in the uk and london should be on full elert.. i ment to say terror attack ie someone being run over.. two days later and guess what

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Monday
, 19 June

2017 Finsbury Park attack
HORROR ON THE STREETS Finsbury Park mosque attack – what happened, where did it take place and who was behind it?

London Mayor Sadiq Khan branded the incident a 'horrific terrorist attack' after ten people were injured and one killed..


as you can see here im not lieing look at the date of my post june 16th and look at the date of the attack in london... i asm not lieing to you...





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I didn't think you were Jim. Isn't this premonitions? And I don't know anything about them.

Will pm the name.

 

[FranC]

You said you have taught little ones.

No matter.

Some might associate a teacher with a school teacher.
I said I've taught both children and adults our faith.
For years.

See. This is context and interpretation.
I only mention this because I'm constantly accused of what you have just done.

Maybe we should be a little nicer to each other, as Jesus would like.

 

[UnderGrace]

“This is the covenant I will make with them after those days, says the Lord. I will put My Laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.” 17Then he adds: “Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more.” 18And where these have been forgiven, an offering for sin is no longer needed.…

This is not the law of the old covenant it is new law under the forgiveness of sins where sacrifice is no longer needed


The old law brought death the new law brings life


You need to understand this also in light of what Paul teaches in Romans about the Law of the old testament.

GOD made a New Covenant... He would put His law on our hearts..

Jeremiah 31


31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

 

[FranC]

A question for all. Not trying to teach or cause division but curious.

Has anyone ever seen that the true definition of humility is to believe the truth revealed in the Word?

No.
Humility is the same as being humble.
See the beatitudes.
Mathew 5:3

Humble means that you're aware of how much you need God and that you're nothing without Him.

 

[FranC]

“This is the covenant I will make with them after those days, says the Lord. I will put My Laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.” 17Then he adds: “Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more.” 18And where these have been forgiven, an offering for sin is no longer needed.…

This is not the law of the old covenant it is new law under the forgiveness of sins where sacrifice is no longer needed


The old law brought death the new law brings life


You need to understand this also in light of what Paul teaches in Romans about the Law of the old testament.

UG

You and others here need to understand that the Moral Law was NOT a abolished!

 

[UnderGrace]

I have not accused you of anything, I misunderstood you when you spoke about teaching.
Just like you judged my motives of why I asked about what it means to be born again.

Not really sure what you mean by nice?

I just do not agree with you on how we do works as in the source, and their role and function, as I have already said.

I could invite you over for an espresso and we could probably have a more reasonable conversation, maybe, however a discussion board is just quick snippets here and there.

I think you add to much emotion to the words that are written, I have been blasted left, right and center, told to be quiet even, anyone ever say that to you?

If we are invested in our belief then the passion will come out too...hopefully though it is not with malice and I really have only seen that a few times I think.

Some might associate a teacher with a school teacher.
I said I've taught both children and adults our faith.
For years.

See. This is context and interpretation.
I only mention this because I'm constantly accused of what you have just done.

Maybe we should be a little nicer to each other, as Jesus would like.