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faith is the evidence of things not seen,the substance of things hoped for,when I speak of was my post "All me" I refer to that though I be the one pushing buttons on my phone I am not alone,there is one whom leads me to what to say and brings to reminder scriptures I have read,letting go of what one knows and making room for the holy spirit is more enlightening than what any mere teacher upon this earth can teach.
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if you look close enough you can see the flat earth out the window
oh, boy. They be back now.
I agree it is the history of those behaviors that makes it difficult and it is pointless to interact
When someone continually reverts to overused cliches and slurs that really have no meaning but are used as derogatory descriptors, like greasy grace, easy believism and hypergracers then there is no discussion to be had
How about holy rollers? Shoes on the other foot now, huh?
Well said...
We are just as dependent on the Holy Spirit to reveal Jesus to us in scripture as Mary as dependent on the Holy Spirit to conceive Jesus in her womb.
The disciples lived with Jesus for over 3 years and He told them in some form or other 17 times that He was going to die - but they still didn't understand it.
Reading the scriptures through an "Old Covenant lens" as Paul talked about in 2 Cor. 3:14-15 will always miss the spiritual realities that are in the New Covenant. You can't mix the 2 of them just as Jesus talked about in the old wine skins and new wine - old shirt and new patch.
To read the scriptures with the natural mind brings strange doctrines of self-works for salvation, observing days and feasts instead of Christ Himself and things like these.
It creates "popes" and religion and a humanistic approach to the scriptures and creates a D.I.Y. self-righteousness and traditions of men which actually nullify the grace of Christ from operating in our lives like it was meant to.
Great post.
Colossians 2:8 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
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No, Stephen
He was responding to me about the post made concerning Cee. Why do I feel like I'm gossiping?
I know someone you can talk to about this Jim. I have no knowledge to give about this. If you want I can give you his name by pm. He's on Facebook too. Are you?
also, he's a minister from Tampa, fl. Not just some fly by night off the wall type.
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You're getting the beginning when Judas was saved,
with the end when he was not anymore because HE DID NOT TRUST Jesus.
Sorry, if I already posted this to you.
It seemed important to repeat it.
I challenge you Fran, to find one post that says what you just said. I could call this lies, but I really try to be polite. Get my drift?
Joh 13:10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.
read the next verse yourself. You should really try reading the Bible more. Less thinking what it might say.
Yes Joe.
But everything to which you're alluding above happened at the END of Jesus' ministry.
As you must surely know, His ministry lasted about 3 1/2 years. Not one month.
The sentence of yours above, which I highlighted, is Mathew 26:24
Jesus and the Apostles were at the Last Supper.
It was the END of Jesus' ministry, not the beginning.
Of course by the end, Jesus knew Judas would betray him.
But all through the previous 3 1/2 years Jesus treated Judas as He treated the other 11 Apostels.
EVEN SENDING HIM OUT TO PREACH GOD'S WORK.
Mathew 10:1-15
I repeat:
HOW could an unbeliever preach God's word and be sent out to do so by JESUS???
THIS is what you posted in no. 627:
Dan gave the verse earlier: John 6:64b
For Jesus had known from the beginning which
of them did not believe and who would betray him.
So, who are THEM???
Phil 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Happens all the time.
Mt 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
Jesus said that evil men would do good works. These works are of no eternal value but men do them to impress others and provide a pretense of righteousness.
For the cause of Christ
Roger