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The Judgment seat of Christ, or Bema seat of Christ, is for reward not punishment. It is a picture of an athlete stepping up to receive his or her reward - whether good or bad - there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." 2Cor5:10
"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad." 2Cor5:10
your a gentile, what context of scripture are you using.
wrong act 2 is for jewish converts.( only)
around 10-18 years later etc
"You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation,( acts 10)
The Holy Spirit Falls on the Gentiles
44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.Acts 10
can you tell us at what point Cornelius repent or repented, to the law you seem, to get your definition to what sin is.
what at acts 15 around 10 years later are asking what law to give the gentile.
if they are ask what law to give them, then that would mean , how can you repent of a law you do not know, or do not know that you have a law.
how can both be wrong.
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull
well I did not see his post to me because I have him on ignore
but now since you quoted him in order to get a dig in, I can reply.
Your both wrong, I never said anyone could lose salvation, I said they risk getting taken down, or out, not out of salvation, out of being useful to god because they have been defeated by legalism, I have witnessed it in a lot of people,
but off course, you two are so desperate to prove people wrong yet again, you can not see what they are actually saying,
Either way, thanks for the laugh
wrong act 2 is for jewish converts.( only)
around 10-18 years later etc
"You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation,( acts 10)
The Holy Spirit Falls on the Gentiles
44 While Peter was still saying these things, the Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word.45 And the believers from among the circumcised who had come with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles.Acts 10
can you tell us at what point Cornelius repent or repented, to the law you seem, to get your definition to what sin is.
what at acts 15 around 10 years later are asking what law to give the gentile.
if they are ask what law to give them, then that would mean , how can you repent of a law you do not know, or do not know that you have a law.
how can both be wrong.
well I did not see his post to me because I have him on ignore
but now since you quoted him in order to get a dig in, I can reply.
Your both wrong, I never said anyone could lose salvation, I said they risk getting taken down, or out, not out of salvation, out of being useful to god because they have been defeated by legalism, I have witnessed it in a lot of people,
but off course, you two are so desperate to prove people wrong yet again, you can not see what they are actually saying,
Either way, thanks for the laugh
Can anyone bring glory to God thru his disobedience and rejection of His word and deliberate sinning ei: hypocrisy, greed, deceit etc.
You must have forgotten to take your medicine again, so here it is:
New International Version 1984 Matthew 19:16-30 The Rich Young Man Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
1 John 3:18 Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the Word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
You have a humble day Sir.
You must have forgotten to take your medicine again, so here it is:
New International Version 1984 Matthew 19:16-30 The Rich Young Man Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?” Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
1 John 3:18 Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the Word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
You have a humble day Sir.
REPOST
Sorry for being mouthy and for the seems to be a vague question but anyway i just copied one of my post that might have escaped your attention because you never made a reply. I hope you would now.
Only proves you don't have the Holy Spirit because you won't let Him work in you as His spiritual vessel. The person who truly has the Holy Spirit manifests a faith that worketh in love and you clearly don't have this love for you cannot OBEY His commands.
E,phesians 4:1-16 Unity in the Body of Christ As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. BE COMPLETELY HUMBLE AND GENTLE; be patient, bearing with one another in love. MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO KEEP THE UNITY OF THE SPIRIT through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
How can anyone reject GOOD WORKS while claiming on the other hand that it is God who works in and through a believer and to make the confusion worse, while claiming to have the HS, they blatantly declare that they are SINNERS who continue to sin daily and therefore making God whom they claim to live in them is the one sinning because they have no participation in what they do. They make more confusing remarks along with cursings and insults to push their doctrines and to undermine other believers who stand on their way.
1 Corinthians 14:37-40 If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
THIS IS MY FINAL APPEAL TO YOU TO STOP DIVIDING THE CHURCH AND TO REPENT AND ADMIT YOUR MISTAKES FOR THE SAKE OF OTHER BELIEVERS.
IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO LISTEN TO MY PLEA, THEN I CHALLENGE YOU TO TAKE HEED AND TAKE ACTION ON JESUS' COMMAND FOR YOU TO SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS TO BE GIVEN TO THE POOR IN ALL HONESTY AND COMPASSION OUT OF LOVE FOR GOD.
1 John 5:1-3 Faith in the Son of God Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. This is love for God: TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS. And his commands are not burdensome,
1 John 3:16-18 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
REMEMBER:
John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
John 12:47-50 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
I HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE YOU BUT I KNOW YOU CAN HANDLE THIS AS AN EX-MARINE AND AN ETERNALLY SAVED CHILD OF GOD AS YOU CLAIM.
IT IS YOUR DECLARATION THAT WORKS ARE THE RESULT OF SALVATION THROUGH FAITH AND THE EVIDENCE OR PROOF OF THEM.
SORRY PAL BUT CAN YOU PROVE THAT "SAVING FAITH" THAT YOU ARE CLAIMING TO ALREADY POSSESS WITH YOUR SALVATION?
Sorry for being mouthy and for the seems to be a vague question but anyway i just copied one of my post that might have escaped your attention because you never made a reply. I hope you would now.
Only proves you don't have the Holy Spirit because you won't let Him work in you as His spiritual vessel. The person who truly has the Holy Spirit manifests a faith that worketh in love and you clearly don't have this love for you cannot OBEY His commands.
E,phesians 4:1-16 Unity in the Body of Christ As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. BE COMPLETELY HUMBLE AND GENTLE; be patient, bearing with one another in love. MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO KEEP THE UNITY OF THE SPIRIT through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.
How can anyone reject GOOD WORKS while claiming on the other hand that it is God who works in and through a believer and to make the confusion worse, while claiming to have the HS, they blatantly declare that they are SINNERS who continue to sin daily and therefore making God whom they claim to live in them is the one sinning because they have no participation in what they do. They make more confusing remarks along with cursings and insults to push their doctrines and to undermine other believers who stand on their way.
1 Corinthians 14:37-40 If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. Therefore, my brothers, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. But everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way.
THIS IS MY FINAL APPEAL TO YOU TO STOP DIVIDING THE CHURCH AND TO REPENT AND ADMIT YOUR MISTAKES FOR THE SAKE OF OTHER BELIEVERS.
IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO LISTEN TO MY PLEA, THEN I CHALLENGE YOU TO TAKE HEED AND TAKE ACTION ON JESUS' COMMAND FOR YOU TO SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS TO BE GIVEN TO THE POOR IN ALL HONESTY AND COMPASSION OUT OF LOVE FOR GOD.
1 John 5:1-3 Faith in the Son of God Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well. This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and carrying out his commands. This is love for God: TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS. And his commands are not burdensome,
1 John 3:16-18 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.
REMEMBER:
John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
John 12:47-50 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
I HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE YOU BUT I KNOW YOU CAN HANDLE THIS AS AN EX-MARINE AND AN ETERNALLY SAVED CHILD OF GOD AS YOU CLAIM.
IT IS YOUR DECLARATION THAT WORKS ARE THE RESULT OF SALVATION THROUGH FAITH AND THE EVIDENCE OR PROOF OF THEM.
SORRY PAL BUT CAN YOU PROVE THAT "SAVING FAITH" THAT YOU ARE CLAIMING TO ALREADY POSSESS WITH YOUR SALVATION?
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