A Discussion of Paradise

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Has it ever dawned on you dimwits that all this chatter about paradise and being saved is nothing but a bunch of people waving a big check that no one will ever see you cash?

You're mortal. Yes, you'll be extinguished. It sucks, but don't be a baby about it.

Carpe diem

Seynour Glass
 
Magenta said:
In another post you indicated that the New Jerusalem will not descend from heaven to the new Earth. The New Jerusalem comes down FROM heaven to men and does what in your view? Hovers in space? Free falls forever? While the new earth does what? Remains uninhabited? I am curious to know...
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1. The New Jerusalem in the eternal home of the saints (Heb 12:22-24). It is spoken of in the present tense here since God already sees all His saints in this city, and Abraham himself had a vision of this city (Heb 11:10)

2. The New Jerusalem is presently located in Heaven (with Paradise within), and it is a cubic city which is the size of a continent -- 1500 cubic miles (Rev 21:16). It is cubic because the Holy of Holies was a cube, and this is the ultimate Holy of Holies.

3. The New Heavens and the New Earth are established before this city descends from Heaven (Rev 21:1).

4. The New Jerusalem descends from Heaven but hovers over the earth and gives light to the earth (Rev 21:2,11,23,24)

So rather than being uninhabited, the New Jerusalem is inhabited eternally by (1) God, (2) the Lamb (Christ), and (3) the Lamb's Wife (the Church).
 
Seymmour said:
Has it ever dawned on you dimwits that all this chatter about paradise and being saved is nothing but a bunch of people waving a big check that no one will ever see you cash?

You're mortal. Yes, you'll be extinguished. It sucks, but don't be a baby about it.

Carpe diem

Seynour Glass
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So it is safe to assume that you don't believe in salvation? That we are born, we die, and that's it?

If that is true, then what are you doing on a Christian chat forum, unless it's simply to cause a disruption?
 
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke 23:43

Reminds me of the old saying that you don't realize what you have till it is gone.

 
Nehemiah6 said:
1. The New Jerusalem in the eternal home of the saints (Heb 12:22-24). It is spoken of in the present tense here since God already sees all His saints in this city, and Abraham himself had a vision of this city (Heb 11:10)

2. The New Jerusalem is presently located in Heaven (with Paradise within), and it is a cubic city which is the size of a continent -- 1500 cubic miles (Rev 21:16). It is cubic because the Holy of Holies was a cube, and this is the ultimate Holy of Holies.

3. The New Heavens and the New Earth are established before this city descends from Heaven (Rev 21:1).

4. The New Jerusalem descends from Heaven but hovers over the earth and gives light to the earth (Rev 21:2,11,23,24)

So rather than being uninhabited, the New Jerusalem is inhabited eternally by (1) God, (2) the Lamb (Christ), and (3) the Lamb's Wife (the Church).
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Why do you speak of the New Jerusalem as being uninhabited? I asked if you thought the new Earth would remain uninhabited, for you deny that life ever after is to be on the new earth. Since Scriptures attest to the fact that there is to be a renewed earth, and that the meek (those who submit to the will of God) are to inherit the earth, my question is: what is the destination of the New Jerusalem after descending from God in heaven to men? And what is the purpose of the new earth if men are not to inhabit it as you assert?

2 Peter 3:13 'Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for
new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.'

Scripture says righteousness dwells in the new heavens and earth. I just want to know why you deny this. Why would the new earth even need light if nobody is living there?
 
Seymmour said:
Has it ever dawned on you dimwits that all this chatter about paradise and being saved is nothing but a bunch of people waving a big check that no one will ever see you cash?

You're mortal. Yes, you'll be extinguished. It sucks, but don't be a baby about it.

Carpe diem

Seynour Glass
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Hello Seymour, welcome to CC. Since you have identified yourself as an outsider, perhaps you are in need of being informed that we do not deny the first death, but rather concern ourselves with what fate is to befall each individual following the resurrection and judgment of all. Will your name be blotted out of the Lamb's book of life with the result of you passing into the second and final everlasting death, or will you pass into life ever after? Life ever after is the promise to those who place their faith in the propitiatory sacrifice of Jesus Christ upon the cross, where He gave His life and shed His righteous blood that we may be reconciled to God.
 
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