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Cako53
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He did a great job. He showed them the lies that are involved in their cult. He will never change their hearts, only God will.
That guy is the reason why Mormons don't like Christians, they show no love and only want to win a debate or argument.
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Cako53
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I think he did a much better job then someone who were to just lul them into a false sense of truth.
Yeah; the outcome is the same however, the person come away as lost as they were to begin with. Truth in love. Truth in love. Apologetics ministries fail miserably in alot of ways because they aim to win arguments and flex their intellectual muscles and have no real desire to win souls.
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Cako53
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Now you are completely assuming that he didn't want to win souls simply because he approached that situation different then you would have. Very judgemental.
Not this guy in particular, but there are several ministries that I know of that give off that vibe.
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Cako53
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Read my previous posts again. This guy in the video does a poor job of trying to win the Mormons he spoke to to Christ. It's typical of Christians to want to win an argument rather than a soul. You said something about being judgmental, I have no clue what this guys motives were, but he failed if his goal was showing the love of Christ. He probably just destroyed any chance of those guys being saved by his approach. And alot of other ministries make those same mistakes. Truth in love.
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Christiangirl82
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this reminds me of my dad so much! But one thing that i think bugs people so much is that there very pushy with how they talk. my dad was a mormon as a young kid but was kicked out (idk why he wont tell me) and they always come. well one thing you can ask them and if they answer it (most of them cant) give them a few minutes, but the question is, "what do we see everyday and see as an equal but God never sees as an equal?" just think about it, im sure some one can answe it 
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Cako53
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The first thing you need to remember is that these people are never out of God's reach. By saying that this guy just destroyed any chance of these people being destroyed is deeming God not willing, or able to save these people. Besides, God is the one who does the changing. I'm pretty sure Saul didn't think he would be a Christian either, God changed that though. Secondly, how isn't their love in this? I thought this was extremely loving of this man to be so honest with them. You will barely find that anywhere now a days. Western Christianity has dumbed the gospel down so it doesn't offend anyone, or so everyone can accept it, yet not know what they are getting into. I find it quite loving to tell them how it is. It's a lot harder to be straight up honest when you know it's going to hurt then to lul them into a false sense of hope.
All that aside, have you ever tried to share the gospel with a mormon?
Funny you should ask that, cuz I actually spent about 8 months as a missionary to Mormons. So I think I have an idea about what I'm talking about.
- No one is ever out of God's reach, but the gospel should be what offends, not the person presenting it. This guy was offensive. I've known several people who were burned by Christians, either by hypocrisy or rudeness and won't set foot back in a church because of it.
- Preaching on sin and hell isn't the same thing as being rude and insensitive to someone. Would you think it was loving to walk up to someone who is lost and say "You're gonna die and burn in hell if you don't know Jesus?" in those exact words. The message is loving, but the approach isn't.
If you want to have an effective ministry to Mormons, ask them questions and see what they believe, and then ask questions to counter it, but don't accuse them or blast them because of their faith.
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Crazy4GODword
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You don't need the Book of Mormon to understand the Gospel. You just need to know the account of Genesis. The world of Caine and the innocent blood of the Abels.) The father Jacob that couldn't keep all his children, and the forgiving son who forged prominently in Egypt, rescued his family from famine, possibly plague and death also.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night:
Surat Ar-Rūm (The Romans)
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and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father:
An account of Lehi and his wife Sariah, and his four sons, being called, (beginning at the eldest) Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi. The Lord warns Lehi to depart out of the land of Jerusalem, because he prophesieth unto the people concerning their iniquity and they seek to destroy his life. He taketh three days’ journey into the wilderness with his family.
let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 aAnd they made their father drink wine that night also:
1 And there was a afamine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto bAbimelech king of the cPhilistines unto Gerar.
2 And the Lord appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:
3 aSojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bbless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these ccountries, and I will perform the doath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
4 And I will make thy aseed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the bnations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham aobeyed my voice, and kept my bcharge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
6 ¶And Isaac dwelt in aGerar:
14 ¶And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians abeheld the woman that she was very fair.
15 The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh:
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? awist ye not that I must be about my bFather’s business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
and the woman was taken into Pharaoh’s house.
16 And he entreated Abram well for her sake:
8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the aglory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you agood tidings of great bjoy, which shall be to all people.
11 For unto you is aborn this day in the city of David a bSaviour, which is Christ the cLord.
and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.
7 And the men of the place asked him of his wife; and he said, She is my asister: for he feared to say, She is my wife; lest, said he, the men of the place should kill me for Rebekah; because she was bfair to look upon.
and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night:
Surat Ar-Rūm (The Romans)
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Alif, Lam, Meem.
30:2The Byzantines have been defeated
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In the nearest land. But they, after their defeat, will overcome.
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Within three to nine years. To Allah belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice
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In the victory of Allah . He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.
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[It is] the promise of Allah . Allah does not fail in His promise, but most of the people do not know.
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They know what is apparent of the worldly life, but they, of the Hereafter, are unaware
and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father:
An account of Lehi and his wife Sariah, and his four sons, being called, (beginning at the eldest) Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi. The Lord warns Lehi to depart out of the land of Jerusalem, because he prophesieth unto the people concerning their iniquity and they seek to destroy his life. He taketh three days’ journey into the wilderness with his family.
let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 aAnd they made their father drink wine that night also:
1 And there was a afamine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto bAbimelech king of the cPhilistines unto Gerar.
2 And the Lord appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of:
3 aSojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bbless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these ccountries, and I will perform the doath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
4 And I will make thy aseed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the bnations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham aobeyed my voice, and kept my bcharge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
6 ¶And Isaac dwelt in aGerar:
14 ¶And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians abeheld the woman that she was very fair.
15 The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh:
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? awist ye not that I must be about my bFather’s business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
and the woman was taken into Pharaoh’s house.
16 And he entreated Abram well for her sake:
8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the aglory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you agood tidings of great bjoy, which shall be to all people.
11 For unto you is aborn this day in the city of David a bSaviour, which is Christ the cLord.
and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.
7 And the men of the place asked him of his wife; and he said, She is my asister: for he feared to say, She is my wife; lest, said he, the men of the place should kill me for Rebekah; because she was bfair to look upon.
and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
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I am not a Mormon, but i do have to ask, what makes the bible any more accurate then the book of Mormon? Is it because the bible is older? Because Joseph Smith hard a hard time getting across to people what he may or may not have seen? Personally I think both books have a good message, and both have written mistakes and inaccuracies in them.
