Not By Works

[PennEd]

It goes both ways.. And I have tried to maintain this when I reply to people.

Really brother, since we can't control what others think, do, and say, that in THEORY shouldn't matter in showing love to those who by all HUMAN accounts don't deserve it.

Not saying I always do, but it absolutely should be what we strive to do, until the Holy Spirit makes it no longer a strive, but a natural reaction.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I would say we have all been guilty at times, Even the one who originally posted it.

Yes, we all have stumbled. Get back up and start to race your race of trust again! Though a righteous man stumbles 70 times, he gets back up again! If Gods mercies did not begin anew each morning, we'd be toast!

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I thought Ralph had red hair and was a friend of Richie Cunningham?

Quit spreading rumors about ralph!

 

[WomanForGod]

I haven't quite figured out how this works yet, and appreciate your patience.
Guard your heart for sure...ISSUES will mess us up!!! (I already have enough issues)
Love ... for sure is most important ... Love Always.
Doctrine...hmmm...I have issues LOL.
Have a blessed day. I have work to do.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Ah! You CAN'T maintain it. You just have to ask for what you lack though and He will supply your needs.!

He always supplies my needs. Thats why I will always have faith in him

and your right, I probably will not maintain it all the time, I do not maintian it when others do not. I have a habit of treating people like they treat others.. That is a flaw of mine.

 

[tourist]

I thought Ralph had red hair and was a friend of Richie Cunningham?

That was my understanding as well. I think that he had a thing for Joanie too but that's mere speculation on my part.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Really brother, since we can't control what others think, do, and say, that in THEORY shouldn't matter in showing love to those who by all HUMAN accounts don't deserve it.

Not saying I always do, but it absolutely should be what we strive to do, until the Holy Spirit makes it no longer a strive, but a natural reaction.

True brother

the point I was making is it seems people have no problem telling me when I fail, but seem to not say a word to others who do the same thing.

Basically, lets be honest, and if we are going to confront some, we should confront all..

I probably should have worded it better though.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

Really brother, since we can't control what others think, do, and say, that in THEORY shouldn't matter in showing love to those who by all HUMAN accounts don't deserve it.

Not saying I always do, but it absolutely should be what we strive to do, until the Holy Spirit makes it no longer a strive, but a natural reaction.

Where did this wisdom come from?
He loved us before we loved Him. He loved those who pounded nails into Him. He loved us while we were IN our sin and hate.
Our debt was forgiven. Will we now demand payment from another? No. We freely give what we were freely and graciously given. If we don't, we will be thrown in prison until the last farthing is paid.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Quit spreading rumors about ralph!

I said I thought

 

[royalscot]

As long as you continue to preach we must work to maintain salvation, I will worry about you, and everyone like you who are depending no on God to save and change you, But in your ability of your own strength to do what is needed to save yourself (call it maintain, or keep or whatever, it is all the same) If I did not worry about you, I would be but pitiful, uncaring human being

Your right, we are not to grieve the HS, We are not to call him a liar either.

no body is calling god a liar.

some are calling , what you post, to be logos only. and since you seem to think , paul wrote in gal 5 1-4

to warn about ,how not to maintain this salvation.

authenticate or debunk , these verses.
if repentance, is what you believe, started your walk, with gods salvation through jesus christ.. how do you maintain this salvation , if god will not talk to , because of gal 5 1-4 . with no rhema word, for you life from god, your just an echoing gong thats know scripture.etc

 

[TheRealRalph]

I was the first to ask a question and still waiting for your answer. The questions was, "What was the purpose of you coming here?" Seems like a basic question to me.

The purpose of my coming here? There are a few, though I suppose providing a different perspective is the one I will name. Thank you for your warm welcome Jerry. I have read many of your posts and I must say, you are truely a man who has been touched by the Holy Spirit.

 

[PHart]

Hi. I'm new. Trying to figure out how to communicate with other believers on here.

When you figure it out let me know.
I've been trying for quite a while now, lol.

(Actually, I think the key is you are to be OSAS. And never utter the word 'work' in the same sentence with 'salvation'. Do that and I think you'll be heard around here, lol.)

 

[UnderGrace]

I gonna big and bold just like you!! Because after all we ARE contending for the faith.

Faith is not a work

Stating that one must maintain continuous faith to be saved makes faith a work.

The gospel is simple we are justified by faith, A Singular Event!

Our first saving faith is the one time action that brings salvation, salvation is from God, it is a gift.
Faith after salvation (the singular event) is part of our walk in grace with Jesus so of course we are called to live by faith, do you want to live in victory or defeat

We are declared righteous, believe it and live it out of it BY FAITH (Romans1:17)

BELIEVE WHAT GOD HAS DONE, HAVE FAITH IN IT, YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS THIS PLEASES GOD (HEBREWS 10:38)

Faith is belief in action

Read from the victory side (Jesus) not the condemnation side (the law)

New American Standard Bible
Romans 1:17For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

Hebrews 10:38​

New American Standard Bible
BUT MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH; AND IF HE SHRINKS BACK, MY SOUL HAS NO PLEASURE IN HIM.

Galatians 3:11​

New American Standard Bible
Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

Habakkuk 2:4​

New American Standard Bible
"Behold, as for the proud one, His soul is not right within him; But the righteous will live by his faith.

You have just said all these scriptures are works, because they imply continuous, consistent faith.

That's what happens when you judge without thinking.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

True brother

the point I was making is it seems people have no problem telling me when I fail, but seem to not say a word to others who do the same thing.

Basically, lets be honest, and if we are going to confront some, we should confront all..

I probably should have worded it better though.

We talk with the one who should be able to bear a rebuke and hear us. If there's a poop problem and there's too much of it, who will be berated - the baby still in diapers or the grown man still doing it?

 

[TheRealRalph]

Quit spreading rumors about ralph!

Thank you. I am quite sensitive.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I gonna big and bold just like you!! Because after all we ARE contending for the faith.

Faith is not a work

Stating that one must maintain continuous faith to be saved makes faith a work.

The gospel is simple we are justified by faith, A Singular Event!

Our first saving faith is the one time action that brings salvation, salvation is from God it is a gift.
Faith after salvation (the singular event) is part of our walk in grace with Jesus so of course we are called to live by faith, do you want to live in victory or defeatWe are declared righteous, believe it and live it out of it BY FAITH (Romans1:17)

BELIEVE WHAT GOD HAS DONE, HAVE FAITH IN IT, YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS THIS PLEASES GOD (HEBREWS 10:38)

Faith is belief in actionRead from the victory side (Jesus) not the condemnation side (the law)

Our experience should show us it isn't continuous. We stop walking in the Spirit and fulfill the lusts of the flesh. But we should be walking in the Spirit for longer and longer periods of time before stumbling again.

 

[Stephen63]

Thank you. I am quite sensitive.

I hope you're not, 'cause if you are you won't last, lol.

 

[royalscot]

to add, selfish faith is the worlds faith, that is why people can appear to be best friends for years, then never want to see each other again, We give our faith as long as the person satisfies our selfish needs and desires, the moment they start to let us down, that faith is taken back, and if the other person stops feeding us at all, that faith is completely removed. and our love for that friend turns to hate,

have you lost the plot.

what part of judge not or be judged ,did you miss from your interpretation of scripture, and what part of who appointed you judge ,did you miss from your interpretation of scripture.

a lot of words, used here to explain condemnation, from the logos word. when the spiriual leads you into no condemnation.

please vote ,now to what system of belief, you want to live under. etc

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

He always supplies my needs. Thats why I will always have faith in him

and your right, I probably will not maintain it all the time, I do not maintian it when others do not. I have a habit of treating people like they treat others.. That is a flaw of mine.

You must influence them. Do not let them influence you.
We would all be in the dunk if our Lord had treated people like they treated Him.
If more love is needed, just ask for what you lack.

 

[UnderGrace]

It is those who have the love of God poured out into their hearts that are the workers....because we know we are saved

eternally and God makes our heart sing with this knowledge of this great joy of salvation,

We cannot help but want to spread His Love around....but CC sometimes pulls us back to the flesh as dCon has often said, but

we know that under Grace there is always a fresh reservoir of grace so that we can love and serve by His might, not our own.

When you figure it out let me know.
I've been trying for quite a while now, lol.

(Actually, I think the key is you are to be OSAS. And never utter the word 'work' in the same sentence with 'salvation'. Do that and I think you'll be heard around here, lol.)