A Study of Torah from Gen. - Rev.
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Hebrew did fall into disuse for the most part. However, as early as the mid 1700's Hebrew was being used. In fact the Spanish Inquisitions, Was more about forcing everyone under one church. That being the RCC. Jewish, (most likely Hebrew speaking) believers where being deported back to Israel, losing their land, finances, and ever their lives as we know. The idea of all Hebrew text of the NT being lost, is a real potability, though I wouldn't say I know it as fact.
All I am saying is that we must all do feels right, and is understood in our minds, as to His name.
If a person uses the title of Lord, when the title master may be a better fit, they simply made a judgment call. Would I say it is sin, no, wrong, not really, HaShem knows what is in our hearts. If man wishes to pass judgment on me for the use of HaShem, so be it. I have always said, and will always say, "I will let HaShem be my judge." I would hope that everyone would take this position, and understand that they have no right to stand in judgment over any man.
If a person uses the title of Lord, when the title master may be a better fit, they simply made a judgment call. Would I say it is sin, no, wrong, not really, HaShem knows what is in our hearts. If man wishes to pass judgment on me for the use of HaShem, so be it. I have always said, and will always say, "I will let HaShem be my judge." I would hope that everyone would take this position, and understand that they have no right to stand in judgment over any man.
As I said I would, I will now back up, and take a lot better look at the covenant made by Yeshua, with man. Just a recap though. A blood covenant is only valid once the blood that seals said covenant has been spelt. Once that takes place then said covenant can't be changed. It becomes an everlasting, and binding covenant for all that enter into it. This will be shown to be the case as we work our way through the Torah, and look at every covenant that is found there.
We must first find what Yeshua said was His part of the covenant.
Jhn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Now some may look at this and say, "Hold on, that is what we must do." In same part they would be right. After all, we must first believe through faith. Just as the Torah shows us. Yet if we lok, we are told that Yeshua didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it. So here we find a part of what He has said He is willing to do, as well as a part of we must do.
Jhn 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Jhn 14:3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
One other thing He will do is prepare a place for us, then come back to take us home.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
He will intercede for us.
Jhn 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.
We must love Him, and to show that Love we must as is clearly stated, keep His commandments. Does this mean that I telling every to keep them. No I am simply pointing out that if we love Him, we will. Just as the faith only folks will say that I am wrong, they will also say that sin is real. They will say they don't need to keep the Law, yet the Holy Spirit will keep from falling into immoral sexual acts, murder and so on. They will say they don't follow the Laws, of HaShem, yet by their action, they attest to the fact that they do follow the ones that are reverent to them.
Jhn 14:16 “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever—
Jhn 14:17 “the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
Here He tells us He will pray that the Spirit of truth fills us.
Jhn 14:18 “I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
Once more He tells us that He will come for us.
One must keep in mind that when we look at this covenant, it is a bit different than the one made with Abram. Abram was not given any thing he need to do, to uphold his end. Here man is given what they need to do.
I know full well someone is going to try to show me wrong on this. I am good with that, just keep in mind, do so with out the use of Paul. ONce more I don't say this to show that Paul does not know what he is talking about. I say this as I know Paul may seem to say one thing, and then in the same chapter, seem to contradict himself. The wetern world has removed Paul from who he truly is, and what he truly lived by for so long that today, many simply don't see the real man. Even Peter tells us,
2Pe 3:14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
2Pe 3:15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
It is this that made Paul the most misunderstood writer of any in the Word. I am so looking forward to doing a study on Paul the man, in hopes of shining light on the man, and his stand on this topic one day.
Mat 24:27 “For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Yeshua gives us details of His return as well.
I can go on and on, showing much the same from every Gospel, yet I feel that with just this, we can see the terms of this covenant. I can tell you, that as we move a long, we will be returning to the NT, and looking at even more of this covenant. To do less would be being a disservice, and in some cases, it would also be dishonest.
We must first find what Yeshua said was His part of the covenant.
Jhn 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Now some may look at this and say, "Hold on, that is what we must do." In same part they would be right. After all, we must first believe through faith. Just as the Torah shows us. Yet if we lok, we are told that Yeshua didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it. So here we find a part of what He has said He is willing to do, as well as a part of we must do.
Jhn 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Jhn 14:3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
One other thing He will do is prepare a place for us, then come back to take us home.
Jhn 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
He will intercede for us.
Jhn 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments.
We must love Him, and to show that Love we must as is clearly stated, keep His commandments. Does this mean that I telling every to keep them. No I am simply pointing out that if we love Him, we will. Just as the faith only folks will say that I am wrong, they will also say that sin is real. They will say they don't need to keep the Law, yet the Holy Spirit will keep from falling into immoral sexual acts, murder and so on. They will say they don't follow the Laws, of HaShem, yet by their action, they attest to the fact that they do follow the ones that are reverent to them.
Jhn 14:16 “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever—
Jhn 14:17 “the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
Here He tells us He will pray that the Spirit of truth fills us.
Jhn 14:18 “I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.
Once more He tells us that He will come for us.
One must keep in mind that when we look at this covenant, it is a bit different than the one made with Abram. Abram was not given any thing he need to do, to uphold his end. Here man is given what they need to do.
I know full well someone is going to try to show me wrong on this. I am good with that, just keep in mind, do so with out the use of Paul. ONce more I don't say this to show that Paul does not know what he is talking about. I say this as I know Paul may seem to say one thing, and then in the same chapter, seem to contradict himself. The wetern world has removed Paul from who he truly is, and what he truly lived by for so long that today, many simply don't see the real man. Even Peter tells us,
2Pe 3:14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;
2Pe 3:15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,
2Pe 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
It is this that made Paul the most misunderstood writer of any in the Word. I am so looking forward to doing a study on Paul the man, in hopes of shining light on the man, and his stand on this topic one day.
Mat 24:27 “For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Yeshua gives us details of His return as well.
I can go on and on, showing much the same from every Gospel, yet I feel that with just this, we can see the terms of this covenant. I can tell you, that as we move a long, we will be returning to the NT, and looking at even more of this covenant. To do less would be being a disservice, and in some cases, it would also be dishonest.
amen and when You study the Gospel its really super clear with things like this
john 3: He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. 32And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
matthew 11:27 "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
john 13:3 "Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
john 17:2-3 "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
which if you follow this line of thought really gets so clear
daniel 7:13-14 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."
Luke 1:30-33 "And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
john 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. << Jesus forbids mary to touch Him immediately after the resurrection saying " i have not yet ascended"
v 27...Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. << ten verses Later after He reappears He invites thomas to touch Him. so im thinking its clear that this following event happened between the 2 encounters Just after the resurrection
revelation 5: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; .........
v11And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;12Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
one of the final things He says before being taken in the clouds is this
matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
im not sure this makes sense to you but i hope so, it seems very clear to me and consequently "malakh adomai is never spoken of againe but now its Jesus Yeshua
john 3: He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. 32And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
matthew 11:27 "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
john 13:3 "Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;
john 17:2-3 "As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent
matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
which if you follow this line of thought really gets so clear
daniel 7:13-14 "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."
Luke 1:30-33 "And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
john 20:17 "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. << Jesus forbids mary to touch Him immediately after the resurrection saying " i have not yet ascended"
v 27...Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. << ten verses Later after He reappears He invites thomas to touch Him. so im thinking its clear that this following event happened between the 2 encounters Just after the resurrection
revelation 5: And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; .........
v11And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;12Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
one of the final things He says before being taken in the clouds is this
matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
im not sure this makes sense to you but i hope so, it seems very clear to me and consequently "malakh adomai is never spoken of againe but now its Jesus Yeshua
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I just looked back and seen I forgot something. I don't want you to think I am telling you what to do, that is simply not me. However, the only time we become a disgrace on a topic, is when we simply turn away from it all together. Grace leads us where we need to be, disgrace, leads us where we shouldn't be.
I do think Luke did his best to keep both the words and thoughts in-tacked. Some of the worst translations out there are in English. Some of them have blatant ministrations in them. Intended to do nothing more than build on a pagan system, the translators, or the ones that commissioned them wanted to keep around. That however is a study of Biblical History, where one would not only look at the History of the Bible, all it's translations, and the placement of the Books in the OT. It is rather infighting, and a study I myself am not qualified to lead. After all I have not taken more than the 101 coarse.
I have always seen Gen 16 as an example of what not to do. As we go through this chapter, you may find some of my thoughts a bit out in left field. Just warning you is all.
Gen 16:1 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. And she had an Egyptian maidservant whose name was Hagar.
Gen 16:2 So Sarai said to Abram, “See now, the LORD has restrained me from bearing children. Please, go in to my maid; perhaps I shall obtain children by her.” And Abram heeded the voice of Sarai.
When people want something so badly, they will do almost anything to get it. At times, even if what they do is not the will of HaShem, they may see it as the only answer. Sadly as we will see, mans answers seem to lead to things we shouldn't do.
Gen 16:4 So he went in to Hagar, and she conceived. And when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress became despised in her eyes.
There are many ways this is looked at. The Sages all seem to follow that Sarai, was looked down on by Hagar now. That Hagar now spoke ill of Sarai, and placed her self above Sarai. This I can see. After all Hagar conceived almost at once. Back then, being able to have children was looked at as a blessing from HaShem. Unlike today, where killing unborn children is seen as a right.
One other teaching is that Hagar didn't want to be Abrams wife, yet as Sarai, was her misters, she did as she wast told. When she conceived a child, she was angry. Hatred filled her hear, and she now looked at Sarai as a thing to distrust. This however, does seem a bit odd. After all now Hagar had everything to gain, and it seemed nothing to loss.
Gen 16:5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “My wrong be upon you! I gave my maid into your embrace; and when she saw that she had conceived, I became despised in her eyes. The LORD judge between you and me.”
Gen 16:6 So Abram said to Sarai, “Indeed your maid is in your hand; do to her as you please.” And when Sarai dealt harshly with her, she fled from her presence.
Sarai, wanted nothing more than to put Hagar back in her place as a servant. Abram on the other hand, seen Hagar as his wife, and so he no right to treat her badly, or as a servant. So he left it in Sarai's hands do deal with Hagar as she seen fit. Hagar, being some what emboldened, left. After all in her mind, she had every right to be treated as an equal. She was after all the wife of Abram, and when Abram did nothing on her behave, she left.
Gen 16:7
Now the Angel of the LORD found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur.
Gen 16:9 The Angel of the LORD said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.”
Gen 16:10 Then the Angel of the LORD said to her, “I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.”
Gen 16:11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her: “Behold, you are with child, And you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
Gen 16:12 He shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
As we can see, a rivalry was started between the 2 ladies. One that as we will see, lives to this day. It plaies out the conflict between Israel and all the Arab peoples.
Gen 16:13 Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, “Have I also here seen Him who sees me?”
Gen 16:14 Therefore the well was called Beer Lahai Roi; observe, it is between Kadesh and Bered.
Gen 16:15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael.
Gen 16:16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
From this one chapter, we can see that the fight over Jerusalem started long before it was in the hands of of ether people.
Yes I though about giving my ow insight on this. Then I seen the disservice that would bring. We will see Ishmael once more before we end this study of Gen. e will get to see his descendants as well before the Torah is done.
Gen 16:1 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. And she had an Egyptian maidservant whose name was Hagar.
Gen 16:2 So Sarai said to Abram, “See now, the LORD has restrained me from bearing children. Please, go in to my maid; perhaps I shall obtain children by her.” And Abram heeded the voice of Sarai.
When people want something so badly, they will do almost anything to get it. At times, even if what they do is not the will of HaShem, they may see it as the only answer. Sadly as we will see, mans answers seem to lead to things we shouldn't do.
Gen 16:4 So he went in to Hagar, and she conceived. And when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress became despised in her eyes.
There are many ways this is looked at. The Sages all seem to follow that Sarai, was looked down on by Hagar now. That Hagar now spoke ill of Sarai, and placed her self above Sarai. This I can see. After all Hagar conceived almost at once. Back then, being able to have children was looked at as a blessing from HaShem. Unlike today, where killing unborn children is seen as a right.
One other teaching is that Hagar didn't want to be Abrams wife, yet as Sarai, was her misters, she did as she wast told. When she conceived a child, she was angry. Hatred filled her hear, and she now looked at Sarai as a thing to distrust. This however, does seem a bit odd. After all now Hagar had everything to gain, and it seemed nothing to loss.
Gen 16:5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “My wrong be upon you! I gave my maid into your embrace; and when she saw that she had conceived, I became despised in her eyes. The LORD judge between you and me.”
Gen 16:6 So Abram said to Sarai, “Indeed your maid is in your hand; do to her as you please.” And when Sarai dealt harshly with her, she fled from her presence.
Sarai, wanted nothing more than to put Hagar back in her place as a servant. Abram on the other hand, seen Hagar as his wife, and so he no right to treat her badly, or as a servant. So he left it in Sarai's hands do deal with Hagar as she seen fit. Hagar, being some what emboldened, left. After all in her mind, she had every right to be treated as an equal. She was after all the wife of Abram, and when Abram did nothing on her behave, she left.
Gen 16:7
Now the Angel of the LORD found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur.
Gen 16:9 The Angel of the LORD said to her, “Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand.”
Gen 16:10 Then the Angel of the LORD said to her, “I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude.”
Gen 16:11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her: “Behold, you are with child, And you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
Gen 16:12 He shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
As we can see, a rivalry was started between the 2 ladies. One that as we will see, lives to this day. It plaies out the conflict between Israel and all the Arab peoples.
Gen 16:13 Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, “Have I also here seen Him who sees me?”
Gen 16:14 Therefore the well was called Beer Lahai Roi; observe, it is between Kadesh and Bered.
Gen 16:15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael.
Gen 16:16 Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.
From this one chapter, we can see that the fight over Jerusalem started long before it was in the hands of of ether people.
Yes I though about giving my ow insight on this. Then I seen the disservice that would bring. We will see Ishmael once more before we end this study of Gen. e will get to see his descendants as well before the Torah is done.
When I think of what many call the original, I think oldest available text. With that in mind, other the 4 gospels, and maybe Revelation. We would only need to have Hebrews translated. Almost all of Pauls letters were in Greek, Acts being written by Luck for a Gentile would have have been in Greek, So I see no reason for any other to people to translate from Hebrew to Greek. Revelation, maybe, yet that is still be debated by better minds than mine. Shoot for that matter, they are still debating if it was John The Apostle, or if he was someone who just happen to be named John.
Gen 17:1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless.
Gen 17:2 “And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.”
Gen 17:3 Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying:
Gen 17:4 “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.
Gen 17:5 “No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations.
Gen 17:6 “I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you.
Some look at this and think only in the carnal sense of being a father. It is from this line of thinking that we find teachings of 10 tribes of Israel, founding different nations. Mostly we are told of Britain and the USA, as they seem to hold a prominent
place in end time prophecy in the teachings of this doctrine. Though we simply can't dismiss this idea, it can also not be shown to be 100% correct. However it does have some backing that seems a bit to grounded to be ignored.
In the USA, there has been found polio-Hebrew writing carved in stone, and in caves. In some native American languages, ( like the Lakota, and Nez Perce') the word for HaShem holds a striking resemblance to the Hebrew word, Yahovh. Some linguist go even further, pointing to the many uses of phrases that may well have come from the Hebrew language.
The other side looks only to the spiritual meaning behind this passage. In that it was from Abram, that Yeshua's blood came. holding to the idea that the 10 tribes are lost, and will never be found by man. Yet with DNA, there is the chance this may be shown wrong. Though it holds true as of this day, we can't know what will come next week or next year.
Can both hold some truth? Yes this is a real possibility. After all, if kings are to come from Abrams blood line, and we remove the idea that this is carnal, why say there will be kings from his blood line? Yet if the spiritual is removed, then do we not miss lead ourselves into thinking that Yeshua may not have been Jewish at all? Or that the world can be blessed by people of one little nation? As we know, Israel has lead the way in almost everything we know today. Medical, technology, and yes from his bloodline we are given nuclear power as well. It is with this in mind that we should hold on to both ideas.
Gen 17:9 And God said to Abraham: “As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations.
Gen 17:10 “This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised;
Gen 17:11 “and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
As we can see this covenant is a blood covenant, yet it does not call for the spitting of animals. This may well ahve to do with the idea that HaShem has already fulfilled that part. As here we find that HaShem is placing a requirement on the people, as their part of the same covenant. This would mean that if they didn't get any blood on their feet in the first part of this covenant, blood is being asked to show their willingness to enter into it.
Gen 17:14 “And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”
As we can see here, anyone that is not circumcised is to be cut off from his people. As this will show that they didn't want a part in the Abrahamic covenant. So once more see that they had a choice. They were not being forced into the covenant. Yet at the same time, we will see later that to reject it, may lead to things you may not like.
Gen 17:15 Then God said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name.
Gen 17:16 “And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her.”
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?”
Gen 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “Oh, that Ishmael might live before You!”
All dads want the best for all their kids. So is it any wonder that Abraham wants something good to come out of this for both of his?
Gen 17:19 Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him.
Gen 17:20 “And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.
Gen 17:21 “But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time next year.”
Abraham's hopes are answered. Ishmael will have 12 princes come from his blood line. It is interesting to note that from Ishmael we only hear of princes, and not kings. A nation and not many. This sets the presidents of one blessing per child. Not 2 may be equal in standing, and they go down as the number of kids a family has. It also shows us here that the youngest seems to the one HaShem wishes to be the highest blessing on. This does change with Israel, or does it?
Gen 17:23 So Abraham took Ishmael his son, all who were born in his house and all who were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham’s house, and circumcised the flesh of their foreskins that very same day, as God had said to him.
Gen 17:26 That very same day Abraham was circumcised, and his son Ishmael;
Gen 17:27 and all the men of his house, born in the house or bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised with him.
It is due to this passage that we find in Acts the question of gentile circumcision. The teachers of the Law seen this as a requirement for salvation. They thought that if anyone wanted salvation, they had to first convert to Judaism. Peter on the other hand didn't see it this way.
Act 15:5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”
Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
As one reads this chapter, keep in mind that man kind came to conclusion, that gentiles only need to follow 5 Laws.
Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[fn] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
Farewell.
If someone tells you this shows we don't need the Laws, then ask, "As it does not say we need faith, does that remove the nee for faith?"
Gen 17:2 “And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.”
Gen 17:3 Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying:
Gen 17:4 “As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.
Gen 17:5 “No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations.
Gen 17:6 “I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you.
Some look at this and think only in the carnal sense of being a father. It is from this line of thinking that we find teachings of 10 tribes of Israel, founding different nations. Mostly we are told of Britain and the USA, as they seem to hold a prominent
place in end time prophecy in the teachings of this doctrine. Though we simply can't dismiss this idea, it can also not be shown to be 100% correct. However it does have some backing that seems a bit to grounded to be ignored.
In the USA, there has been found polio-Hebrew writing carved in stone, and in caves. In some native American languages, ( like the Lakota, and Nez Perce') the word for HaShem holds a striking resemblance to the Hebrew word, Yahovh. Some linguist go even further, pointing to the many uses of phrases that may well have come from the Hebrew language.
The other side looks only to the spiritual meaning behind this passage. In that it was from Abram, that Yeshua's blood came. holding to the idea that the 10 tribes are lost, and will never be found by man. Yet with DNA, there is the chance this may be shown wrong. Though it holds true as of this day, we can't know what will come next week or next year.
Can both hold some truth? Yes this is a real possibility. After all, if kings are to come from Abrams blood line, and we remove the idea that this is carnal, why say there will be kings from his blood line? Yet if the spiritual is removed, then do we not miss lead ourselves into thinking that Yeshua may not have been Jewish at all? Or that the world can be blessed by people of one little nation? As we know, Israel has lead the way in almost everything we know today. Medical, technology, and yes from his bloodline we are given nuclear power as well. It is with this in mind that we should hold on to both ideas.
Gen 17:9 And God said to Abraham: “As for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations.
Gen 17:10 “This is My covenant which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: Every male child among you shall be circumcised;
Gen 17:11 “and you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskins, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
As we can see this covenant is a blood covenant, yet it does not call for the spitting of animals. This may well ahve to do with the idea that HaShem has already fulfilled that part. As here we find that HaShem is placing a requirement on the people, as their part of the same covenant. This would mean that if they didn't get any blood on their feet in the first part of this covenant, blood is being asked to show their willingness to enter into it.
Gen 17:14 “And the uncircumcised male child, who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”
As we can see here, anyone that is not circumcised is to be cut off from his people. As this will show that they didn't want a part in the Abrahamic covenant. So once more see that they had a choice. They were not being forced into the covenant. Yet at the same time, we will see later that to reject it, may lead to things you may not like.
Gen 17:15 Then God said to Abraham, “As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name.
Gen 17:16 “And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her.”
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?”
Gen 17:18 And Abraham said to God, “Oh, that Ishmael might live before You!”
All dads want the best for all their kids. So is it any wonder that Abraham wants something good to come out of this for both of his?
Gen 17:19 Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him.
Gen 17:20 “And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.
Gen 17:21 “But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time next year.”
Abraham's hopes are answered. Ishmael will have 12 princes come from his blood line. It is interesting to note that from Ishmael we only hear of princes, and not kings. A nation and not many. This sets the presidents of one blessing per child. Not 2 may be equal in standing, and they go down as the number of kids a family has. It also shows us here that the youngest seems to the one HaShem wishes to be the highest blessing on. This does change with Israel, or does it?
Gen 17:23 So Abraham took Ishmael his son, all who were born in his house and all who were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham’s house, and circumcised the flesh of their foreskins that very same day, as God had said to him.
Gen 17:26 That very same day Abraham was circumcised, and his son Ishmael;
Gen 17:27 and all the men of his house, born in the house or bought with money from a foreigner, were circumcised with him.
It is due to this passage that we find in Acts the question of gentile circumcision. The teachers of the Law seen this as a requirement for salvation. They thought that if anyone wanted salvation, they had to first convert to Judaism. Peter on the other hand didn't see it this way.
Act 15:5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”
Act 15:7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.
As one reads this chapter, keep in mind that man kind came to conclusion, that gentiles only need to follow 5 Laws.
Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[fn] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
Farewell.
If someone tells you this shows we don't need the Laws, then ask, "As it does not say we need faith, does that remove the nee for faith?"
Gen 18:3 and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant.
Gen 18:4 “Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree.
As we all know the feet get rather dirty when walking in sandals. So to offer one a chance to wash their feet is a blessing to that person. I am sure that most of us already know it is also a sing of servitude to wash another's feet, as Yeshua did with his followers. The 2 stories show us a contrast. Here we find a man showing servitude toward HaShem. Yeshua, as we all should know was HaShem, and we find Him showing servitude toward man kind. Why does stand out? When man turns his life over to HaShem, we indenture our selves into His service. So how is it that He does the same for us? He becomes our teacher, our salvation, and our protector.
Gen 18:10 And He said, “I will certainly return to you according to the time of life, and behold, Sarah your wife shall have a son.” (Sarah was listening in the tent door which was behind him.)
Gen 18:11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old, well advanced in age; and Sarah had passed the age of childbearing.
Gen 18:13 And the LORD said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I surely bear a child, since I am old?’
Keep in mind that Abraham also laughed when he heard this the first time.
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?”
Gen 18:14 “Is anything too hard for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.”
At times we find people that wish to discredit HaShem asking some really stupid questions. Things like, "can He make a rock so big He can't lift it?, or, Can HaShem lie? They are crafted to get an answer will open the door to show HaShem is not able to do everything. That also stem from this passage, and other like it.
If you say He can make a rock to big for HIm to lift, they may respond with then He can't lift the rock, He can't do what ever He wills. Or if you say He can't lie, they respond in the same manner. So how would one answer this kind of question?
Can HaShem lie, He could, however He won't. Can He make a rock so big He can't lift it? I am sure if there was reason for it He could. However a rock of that size wouldn't leave room for anything other than the rock, so what would be the point?
Gen 18:16 Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way.
Gen 18:17 And the LORD said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing,
Gen 18:18 “since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
Gen 18:19 “For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the LORD, to do righteousness and justice, that the LORD may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”
In a class I am taking, to better understand teachings of other doctrine, It was said that HaShem doesn't bring disaster on man kind. When I pointed out that He brings judgment on man kind by way of both natural, and supernatural means. They asked for backing of this. Had I not known the Word, and what it tells us, I may well have failed that class. Here we will find the supernatural means.
Gen 18:20 And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave,
Gen 18:21 “I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”
Gen 18:23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
Gen 18:24 “Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it?
Gen 18:25 “Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
Knowing that HaShem is just in all His ways, Abraham know that HaShem wouldn't kill the righteous along with the wicked. Yet do to his compassionate heart, Abraham was lead to bargain for the lives of the righteous. This also goes to show use that if ones heart is in the right place, we can also bargain with HaShem, for what we know is right.
Abraham goes no until he gets it down to just 10.
Gen 18:32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.”
Gen 18:33 So the LORD went His way as soon as He had finished speaking with Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Although the Word doesn't tell us this, When Abraham returned home, I bet he spent a lot of time in prayer for Lot. I am also sure that it was with Lot in mind that Abraham bargained with HaShem for the lives of the righteous. After all he know that Lot was in Sodom, though he may not have known if Lot was involved with the lifestyle of the people. As we know, people can influence our lives. Once surrounded by a teaching, or evil, it slowly gets harder to resist. So yes, that is why I take almost every class I can find on Biblical teaching. It can do 2 things for me.
1. It can show me the teachings that are wrong, and how they came into being.
2. It helps to show any wrong that may be in my own understanding, or teachings.
I pointed out that HaShem uses both natural and supernatural as judgement. In the next chapter we will see that He used supernatural, when it raind fire and brim stone on Sodom. It isn't until we find that Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, in Numbers 16, as they wished to place them selves on level with Moses. Then HaShem opened the earth and they feel in. Hens we see the use of what looks natural carrying out sentence.
Gen 18:4 “Please let a little water be brought, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree.
As we all know the feet get rather dirty when walking in sandals. So to offer one a chance to wash their feet is a blessing to that person. I am sure that most of us already know it is also a sing of servitude to wash another's feet, as Yeshua did with his followers. The 2 stories show us a contrast. Here we find a man showing servitude toward HaShem. Yeshua, as we all should know was HaShem, and we find Him showing servitude toward man kind. Why does stand out? When man turns his life over to HaShem, we indenture our selves into His service. So how is it that He does the same for us? He becomes our teacher, our salvation, and our protector.
Gen 18:10 And He said, “I will certainly return to you according to the time of life, and behold, Sarah your wife shall have a son.” (Sarah was listening in the tent door which was behind him.)
Gen 18:11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old, well advanced in age; and Sarah had passed the age of childbearing.
Gen 18:13 And the LORD said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I surely bear a child, since I am old?’
Keep in mind that Abraham also laughed when he heard this the first time.
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, “Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?”
Gen 18:14 “Is anything too hard for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.”
At times we find people that wish to discredit HaShem asking some really stupid questions. Things like, "can He make a rock so big He can't lift it?, or, Can HaShem lie? They are crafted to get an answer will open the door to show HaShem is not able to do everything. That also stem from this passage, and other like it.
If you say He can make a rock to big for HIm to lift, they may respond with then He can't lift the rock, He can't do what ever He wills. Or if you say He can't lie, they respond in the same manner. So how would one answer this kind of question?
Can HaShem lie, He could, however He won't. Can He make a rock so big He can't lift it? I am sure if there was reason for it He could. However a rock of that size wouldn't leave room for anything other than the rock, so what would be the point?
Gen 18:16 Then the men rose from there and looked toward Sodom, and Abraham went with them to send them on the way.
Gen 18:17 And the LORD said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing,
Gen 18:18 “since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
Gen 18:19 “For I have known him, in order that he may command his children and his household after him, that they keep the way of the LORD, to do righteousness and justice, that the LORD may bring to Abraham what He has spoken to him.”
In a class I am taking, to better understand teachings of other doctrine, It was said that HaShem doesn't bring disaster on man kind. When I pointed out that He brings judgment on man kind by way of both natural, and supernatural means. They asked for backing of this. Had I not known the Word, and what it tells us, I may well have failed that class. Here we will find the supernatural means.
Gen 18:20 And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave,
Gen 18:21 “I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”
Gen 18:23 And Abraham came near and said, “Would You also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
Gen 18:24 “Suppose there were fifty righteous within the city; would You also destroy the place and not spare it for the fifty righteous that were in it?
Gen 18:25 “Far be it from You to do such a thing as this, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous should be as the wicked; far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
Knowing that HaShem is just in all His ways, Abraham know that HaShem wouldn't kill the righteous along with the wicked. Yet do to his compassionate heart, Abraham was lead to bargain for the lives of the righteous. This also goes to show use that if ones heart is in the right place, we can also bargain with HaShem, for what we know is right.
Abraham goes no until he gets it down to just 10.
Gen 18:32 Then he said, “Let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak but once more: Suppose ten should be found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it for the sake of ten.”
Gen 18:33 So the LORD went His way as soon as He had finished speaking with Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Although the Word doesn't tell us this, When Abraham returned home, I bet he spent a lot of time in prayer for Lot. I am also sure that it was with Lot in mind that Abraham bargained with HaShem for the lives of the righteous. After all he know that Lot was in Sodom, though he may not have known if Lot was involved with the lifestyle of the people. As we know, people can influence our lives. Once surrounded by a teaching, or evil, it slowly gets harder to resist. So yes, that is why I take almost every class I can find on Biblical teaching. It can do 2 things for me.
1. It can show me the teachings that are wrong, and how they came into being.
2. It helps to show any wrong that may be in my own understanding, or teachings.
I pointed out that HaShem uses both natural and supernatural as judgement. In the next chapter we will see that He used supernatural, when it raind fire and brim stone on Sodom. It isn't until we find that Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, in Numbers 16, as they wished to place them selves on level with Moses. Then HaShem opened the earth and they feel in. Hens we see the use of what looks natural carrying out sentence.