THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[trofimus]

Who said it's God that will build the temple? It's so-called Jews who want to do it.

Any physical temple is always built by people. God himself made only one temple - Church.

Why does scripture say the anti-Christ will stand in the temple in Judea? Why warn Judeans to flee to the mountains?

Its only one view that it is about antichrist. It could also be about Romans and what they did.
Also, it was written before the second temple was destroyed, it is not about third.

If the so-called Jews knew that God didn't want animal sacrifices, wouldn't they worship Lord Jesus? Hint: they don't understand.

Exactly. Thats why they are irrelevant. They can built whatever they want, it is not of our interest.

Only believing Jews are relevant. And they are Christians.

 

[VCO]

Thank you VCO I always wondered about the wall, since God said no stone would be left standing, why was a wall left in tact, this answers that question,

I Really like what your sign says.

 

[VCO]

Who said it's God that will build the temple? It's so-called Jews who want to do it.

Why does scripture say the anti-Christ will stand in the temple in Judea? Why warn Judeans to flee to the mountains?

If the so-called Jews knew that God didn't want animal sacrifices, wouldn't they worship Lord Jesus? Hint: they don't understand.

Zechariah 14:20-21 (ESV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And on that day there shall be inscribed on the bells of the horses, “Holy to the LORD.” And the pots in the house of the LORD shall be as the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to the LORD of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of the LORD of hosts on that day.

Zechariah 14:2-5 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people {144,000} will not be removed from the city.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] You{144,000} will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.

Zechariah 14:12 (HCSB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

 

[Zen]

Zechariah 14:20-21 (ESV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] And on that day there shall be inscribed on the bells of the horses, “Holy to the LORD.” And the pots in the house of the LORD shall be as the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to the LORD of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a traderin the house of the LORD of hosts on that day.

Zechariah 14:2-5 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people {144,000} will not be removed from the city.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] You{144,000} will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.

Zechariah 14:12 (HCSB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

What? Are you saying that God is going to command the earthly temple to be built? I don't understand the point.

I'm going to post the KJV too since there are errors in the translations you posted.

Zechariah 14:2-5 [SUP]2 [/SUP]For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


Zechariah 14:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Zechariah 14:20-21[SUP]20 [/SUP]In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.


The 144,000 are 12,000 from every tribe of Israel, if it's talking about Judah, it can't be the 144,000 (which you inserted in to scripture but aren't mentioned). Can you provide any other scripture which says that these people are going to be the 144,000 of Israel?

I don't understand this prophecy. The problem is that since God built His temple in Christians, how can it be from an earthly temple in Jerusalem? Since Zechariah was way before the N.T. did God change what will happen? Or are these things just a metaphor for Christianity?

Revelation and the gospel are newer than Zechariah and make more sense to me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I Really like what your sign says.

thank you..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What? Are you saying that God is going to command the earthly temple to be built? I don't understand the point.

I'm going to post the KJV too since there are errors in the translations you posted.

Zechariah 14:2-5 [SUP]2 [/SUP]For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


Zechariah 14:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Zechariah 14:20-21[SUP]20 [/SUP]In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.


The 144,000 are 12,000 from every tribe of Israel, if it's talking about Judah, it can't be the 144,000 (which you inserted in to scripture but aren't mentioned). Can you provide any other scripture which says that these people are going to be the 144,000 of Israel?

I don't understand this prophecy. The problem is that since God built His temple in Christians, how can it be from an earthly temple in Jerusalem? Since Zechariah was way before the N.T. did God change what will happen? Or are these things just a metaphor for Christianity?

Revelation and the gospel are newer than Zechariah and make more sense to me.

that prophesy has not happened yet,

if if you ever studied the affects of a hydrogen bomb on a human body. Zechariah in verse 12 says almost word for word what happens, it is actually quite amazing to see,

 

[Bladerunner]

I am not sure what you wanted to say by all this.

Calvinism is not related to eschatology much, but there can be some relations.

On the other hand, I do not accept dispensationalism because I think its false and unbiblical. Calvinism is not a reason for it.

so which dispensational time period do you see as false. SOme people have seven, some six and some five. Me.... You have creation (1), Pre-flood (2), Law(3), Time of the Gentiles (4), End Times(5).....Now simply because some see more than I do is not reason to be alarmed... What do you not Believe about these 5.

 

[Bladerunner]

Israel will have to level the mosque that is on the Temple Mount. A well-funded dedicated general construction contractor, with heavy equipment and explosives could do this in a week or less. The temple will be built, sooner rather than later.

NO!..The temple Mount was an area where the roman legion (army of 6,000) lived. there was also stores, bars , Brothels, etc. to make a total of some 11-12,000 that was in this area...The Bible does not tell us the temple was on a hill.

Very CUTE name there.......

 

[Bladerunner]

Which has nothing to do with the position of the a new and useless Jewish temple.

Now why would you say that????? Are you a satanist or something?

 

[VCO]

What? Are you saying that God is going to command the earthly temple to be built? I don't understand the point.

I am saying no matter who builds it, men or Jesus the Carpenter, THE SCRIPTURES SAY THERE WILL BE A BUILDING THAT EVEN HE CALLS THE LORD'S house AND it will have an Altar.

Zechariah 14:20-21[SUP]20 [/SUP]In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.


Zechariah 14:20-21 (NRSV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] On that day there shall be inscribed on the bells of the horses, "Holy to the LORD." And the cooking pots in the house of the LORD shall be as holy as the bowls in front of the altar;
[SUP]21 [/SUP] and every cooking pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be sacred to the LORD of hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and use them to boil the flesh of the sacrifice. And there shall no longer be traders in the house of the LORD of hosts on that day.

 

[Bladerunner]

I do not believe in dispensationalism because I think its a false and unbiblical view.

I actually never read anything by Darby, he is not relevant to me at all. Remember I am from a very different culture than you are.

OH,, what culture is that? Are you not Human,,,Are you not a Man or Woman? Are you a Gentile or are you a Jewish?

It is good to hear that you do not have a Darby Hate ring going on!

 

[VCO]

NO!..The temple Mount was an area where the roman legion (army of 6,000) lived. there was also stores, bars , Brothels, etc. to make a total of some 11-12,000 that was in this area...The Bible does not tell us the temple was on a hill.

Very CUTE name there.......

Some say 10,000 men counting the Support Staff, made up a ROMAN LEGION. AND FORT ANTONIA WAS WHERE THE ROMAN 10th LEGION was stationed.

 

[KJV1611]

Why does the temple have to be rebuilt on the exact site of the old temple?

 

[VCO]

that prophesy has not happened yet,

if if you ever studied the affects of a hydrogen bomb on a human body. Zechariah in verse 12 says almost word for word what happens, it is actually quite amazing to see,

YEP, and between WWIII (full blown nukier), post War diseases and radiation deaths, GOD's Wrath, Plagues, HUGE hail stones, Mountain Size Meteors, Poisoned Red Water, Ultra Severe Draught, Beheadings, etc., etc.; I agree with Ahwatukee; there will be less than 10% of the World's population left.

 

[Zen]

YEP, and between WWIII (full blown nukier), post War diseases and radiation deaths, GOD's Wrath, Plagues, HUGE hail stones, Mountain Size Meteors, Poisoned Red Water, Ultra Severe Draught, Beheadings, etc., etc.; I agree with Ahwatukee; there will be less than 10% of the World's population left.

Is this the "let's post conspiracy theories" thread? Wild speculation for sure.

Also, God doesn't use hydrogen bombs.

 

[VCO]

Now why would you say that????? Are you a satanist or something?

Sounds to me like he NEVER READ THESE VERSES:


Genesis 12:2-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you, I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who treat you with contempt, and all the peoples on earth will be blessed through you.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] So Abram went, as the LORD had told him, and Lot went with him. Abram was 75 years old when he left Haran.

Last time I checked, GOD IS ALWAYS FULFILLING HIS WORD TO THE LETTER.

 

[KJV1611]

Why does the temple have to be rebuilt on the exact site of the old temple?

I dont know of any scripture that calls for temple to be built in any specific place... Anybody know?

 

[Bladerunner]

I believe the temple will be rebuilt in order to fulfill prophecy.

Luke 21:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Behold, I have told you before.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
[SUP]30 [/SUP]And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

It sounds like the anti-Christ will lead an army against the city and then stand in the temple--big trouble.

If this already happened in the 1st century AD, then we must have missed the rapture?

The priests are training, yes. But none of them can prove their lineage and don't they need a perfect red heifer? It's in vain anyway, they murdered the messiah and still cling to tradition.

sorry to burst your bubble but Luke 21 and Matthew 24 are not talking about the same speech of Jesus.

 

[Bladerunner]

There is nothing about building "third" Jewish temple in the Bible. So... how can your view be biblical?

why do you say that when Jesus tells it will be built....He tells us in Matthew 24:15....the Abomination of Desolate will take place. Thus the temple will have to be rebuilt.......

 

[Sully]

We are the temple, stop looking towards buildings. The enemy will seek to sit on the throne of the hearts of men. Make sure it is reserved for only One.