The Rapture

[KJV1611]

6) Is Christ king now? If you're an amill preterist, yes. Otherwise, no. The kingdom is not here yet.

Matthew 16:28 KJV
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

 

[KJV1611]

The price has been paid, and victory is assured, but have you stopped sinning yet?

II don't think Daniel said that anyone would stop sinning, only that an end of sin would be made. Hebrews 9:26 tells us that Jesus did put away our sin. I'm not here to argue the point, people can take it or leave it.

 

[KJV1611]

Not to me. But I am not particularly interested. I think the AC will rise after an intense trigger event. Wonder what that might be...

Considering there is no such thing as The Antichrist... Idon't think you have anything to worry about.

 

[Bladerunner]

I don't know where you got your history from but the Romans took over the ruins of Jerusalem and built another City on top of them they called Aelia Capitolina. They also built a Temple on the Temple Mount dedicated to Jupiter. Between 132 and 136 another revolt against Rome took place led by Simon Bar Kokhba believed by many Jews to be the Messiah. The revolt was crushed and all Jews including Christian ones were barred from entering the City. It is believed that it was during this revolt that the split between Christianity and Judaism became final because Christians refused to accept Bar kokhba as the Messiah.

Yes, those who practice Judaism are blinded until!

 

[Sully]

Considering there is no such thing as The Antichrist... Idon't think you have anything to worry about.

Lol, ok....

 

[KJV1611]

Nope. (but I know Preterists disagree..)

Sure he's been revealed. He's the son of perdition (Judas), the fake Christian. I'd like to know how "The Antichrist" can sit on the throne of the temple of God seeing how the temple of God is the body of believers JOINED together with Christ. I don't believe that for one second.. no sir!

 

[KJV1611]

Lol, ok....

Have you ever found "The Antichrist" in the bible? Have you ever seen a peace treaty with Israel in the bible? Do you really think the temple of God is a building?

 

[Bladerunner]

The great tribulation will be terrible and Jesus said if He did not shorten the days there would be no flesh alive which is three and one half years.

God will give the world 7 years to have their way,and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,so He can end this sin business on earth.

But the tribulation is only for the last three and one half years of the 7 years period.

The first three and one half years repentance,and salvation is still available to the world,and there will be a unified religious system,and the ten horn kingdom,the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section,and the first three and one half years are not part of the great tribulation,and that is when the 6th trumpet sounds,the religion of Islam and the world clash,and nuclear weapons devastate the Arab nations,and the man of sin plucks up 3 horns by the roots,and a third of the population of the world dies.

That war is so terrible they turn to the man of sin for the solution to have peace on earth,and the world follow the beast kingdom,and then the great tribulation against the saints for three and one half years,and at the end of that time the saints that remain are gathered unto Christ.

Then the great tribulation is over,for the great tribulation is for the saints,not the world,and then the wrath of God poured on the people that followed the beast kingdom,leading up to the battle of Armageddon,where the plague God gives them is their flesh shall melt off their bones,which the wrath of God is not tribulation,but punishment for following the beast kingdom.

The great tribulation is for only three and one half years,and it is only for the saints.

You are right about the"tribulations".....It is a misnomer and should be Daniel's 70th week..... The time of the "Great tribulation" as spoken by Jesus to Mat 24: 21 is the last 3.5 years of Daniel's 70th week.

 

[VCO]

The man of sin has to show up first doesn't he?

I think he is alive today, waiting for us, with the Holy Spirit in us, (who will NEVER leave us), to be taken out of the way by going to the Wedding of the LAMB in HEAVEN, and then the ANTICHRIST
(A Dictator ruling the Revived Roman Empire) will come to full POWER very quickly.

I have seen some on the news, who potentially could be that FUTURE DICTATOR, but there is not enough evidence to Positively POINT HIM OUT, YET. It says HE WILL BE REVEALED, but it does NOT say EVERYONE WILL RECOGNIZE WHO HE IS.

So I think it is WISE to live as this could be the DAY we go to the Wedding In Heaven.

 

[Gabriel2020]

Jesus took all the sins of the world upon him, and every sin committed by mankind was dismissed and forgiven. but in order to inherit such a reward, you have to claim it by believing that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God, having died on the cross for us, and raised from the dead to eternal life. likewise we will receive the same inheritance. Just like foreigners wanting to come to this country. they must believe that it is a better life for them to inherit the rewards it has to offer, and be free of a terrible country that they live in. They won't receive it unless they come., it's there for them.

 

[KJV1611]

I think he is alive today, waiting for us, with the Holy Spirit in us, (who will NEVER leave us), to be taken out of the way by going to the Wedding of the LAMB in HEAVEN, and then the ANTICHRIST (A Dictator ruling the Revived Roman Empire) will come to full POWER very quickly.

I have seen some on the news, who potentially could be that FUTURE DICTATOR, but there is not enough evidence to Positively POINT HIM OUT, YET. It says HE WILL BE REVEALED, but it does NOT say EVERYONE WILL RECOGNIZE WHO HE IS.

So I think it is WISE to live as this could be the DAY we go to the Wedding In Heaven.

If you're waiting for the wedding, then you missed the wedding. We are right now THE BODY of CHRIST - the twain have become one flesh.

 

[Sully]

Have you ever found "The Antichrist" in the bible? Have you ever seen a peace treaty with Israel in the bible? Do you really think the temple of God is a building?

I'd be lying if i told you i hadn't explored those topics and a plethora of others. I'm so done with trying to "figure" it out. If you can look at our culture and make "sense" of it, I'd have to distance myself from you based on what I know, which is the more I know the less I know. What we are seeing is beyond all of our so called prophetic (contemporary/online/keyboard) teaching, with the exception of what is happening in the ME. That is all you need to look at. All else will lead to becoming a candidate of deception IMHO.

 

[VCO]

Matthew 16:28 KJV
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Yes, the Eternal KINGDOM begins in the heart of a Believer, when he or she gets down of the throne of their life, surrendering it to JESUS CHRIST because you Love HIM.

 

[shrume]

4) is everlasting righteousness here? No.

Romans 3:22 KJV
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Rom 3:22 is talking about an individual's being made righteous before God. Through believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, we are made righteous.

Is there still unrighteousness in the world? An almost unfathomable amount.

There will be a LOT less in the millennial kingdom. Jesus will rule with a "rod of iron".

And there will be NO unrighteousness in the eternal kingdom.

 

[KJV1611]

I'd be lying if i told you i hadn't explored those topics and a plethora of others. I'm so done with trying to "figure" it out. If you can look at our culture and make "sense" of it, I'd have to distance myself from you based on what I know, which is the more I know the less I know. What we are seeing is beyond all of our so called prophetic (contemporary/online/keyboard) teaching, with the exception of what is happening in the ME. That is all you need to look at. All else will lead to becoming a candidate of deception IMHO.

It's not that hard Sully, the first step is to forget everything we think we know and start over with the word of God alone. It takes faith and I'm not talking spiritual mumbo jumbo, I'm talking about the faith to believe every word of God is right. When we beleive EVERY word of God, the contradictions melt away and the true picture comes into view. I don't know everything but I know a whole lot more now than I did before I let the word teach me.

 

[VCO]

If you're waiting for the wedding, then you missed the wedding. We are right now THE BODY of CHRIST - the twain have become one flesh.

NO, there will a WEDDING, in the Bridegroom's FATHER'S HOUSE, it has been that way for 3500 + years. I have my SEAL OF PROMISE, and I HAVE MY INVITATION, in my HEART.

 

[KJV1611]

Rom 3:22 is talking about an individual's being made righteous before God. Through believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, we are made righteous.

Is there still unrighteousness in the world? An almost unfathomable amount.

There will be a LOT less in the millennial kingdom. Jesus will rule with a "rod of iron".

And there will be NO unrighteousness in the eternal kingdom.

Daniel didn't say unrighteousness was being done away with, he said everlasting righteous would be brought in... the righteousness of Christ IS everlasting and that's the righteousness that we have.

 

[KJV1611]

NO, there will a WEDDING, in the Bridegroom's FATHER'S HOUSE, it has been that way for 3500 + years. I have my SEAL OF PROMISE, and I HAVE MY INVITATION, in my HEART.

Ok VCO, I'm just trying to help you.

 

[shrume]

Sure he's been revealed. He's the son of perdition (Judas), the fake Christian.

I'm curious how Judas managed to accomplish everything the antichrist will accomplish. He died before Pentecost.

I'd like to know how "The Antichrist" can sit on the throne of the temple of God seeing how the temple of God is the body of believers JOINED together with Christ.

The physical temple will be rebuilt.

I don't believe that for one second.. no sir!

You will...

Y'all have a great night.

 

[shrume]

Ok VCO, I'm just trying to help you.

Don't you think us Futurists are trying to help you Preterists?