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I mean screaming at me to prove it or draw it wont really help me get my point across, even though I am all for logical dialogue and proving what you claim. Its just something in my opinion you kind of have to have an experience and wake up to. I really am going on facts and really the round earth lost for me. Yes the sun hangs over the earth man half over the ground but boats do too even on flat lakes, cars seem to kinda drop down a few miles away so I dont know man.
that's another pack of absolute lies that i don't have the time or inclination to go through patiently explaining ((again, because i have done it before in the past)) to people who are willfully ignorant and reject all reasoning that doesn't fit with their confirmation bias.
anyway, someone else has already done a better job than i would. so here, have a read:
http://creation.com/a-direct-test-of-the-flat-earth-model-flight-times
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I mean I only did it once but I did every plane almost at that airport. I could be wrong though. It could have just appeared that way for those flights. I never really researched all this stuff that much and would not mind checking again just to see if it works. But I dont know there is alot of other things that made it add up more for me.
they cannot do this if the earth is flat.
the argument you are presenting in the quoted paragraph is equivalent to saying "when i drink a glass of water it doesn't actually go in my body, it stays in the glass, but becomes invisible" and you qualify it by saying "i mean hamburgers and broccoli and candy bars do it too, man, they disappear when i chew them but they are really still there on the plate"
what you've actually done is give me evidence that the food is consumed, but you're wildly misinterpreting it.
understanding the physics of food being eaten will clarify how wrong your interpretation is, just like actually taking the time to draw out how light from the sun 3,000 miles above is supposedly hidden from view should clarify why this pancake-planet theory is ridiculous.
so keep this picture in your head, and think about sunset:
the flat-earth model says this is exactly the geometry and orientation of the sun when it is noon, when it is sunrise, and when it is midnight, and when it is sunset. the only thing that changes is the distance between the smiley-face observer and the point on the planet directly below the sun.
think about that and see if you can imagine how exactly the same picture can describe a sunny day and the deepest part of the night??
but ((reality)) a spherical earth rotating at an angle and orbiting around a star perfectly, reliably, accurately, predictably, and demonstrably describes exactly what you see when you actually go outside and look at the sky.
the argument you are presenting in the quoted paragraph is equivalent to saying "when i drink a glass of water it doesn't actually go in my body, it stays in the glass, but becomes invisible" and you qualify it by saying "i mean hamburgers and broccoli and candy bars do it too, man, they disappear when i chew them but they are really still there on the plate"
what you've actually done is give me evidence that the food is consumed, but you're wildly misinterpreting it.
understanding the physics of food being eaten will clarify how wrong your interpretation is, just like actually taking the time to draw out how light from the sun 3,000 miles above is supposedly hidden from view should clarify why this pancake-planet theory is ridiculous.
so keep this picture in your head, and think about sunset:
the flat-earth model says this is exactly the geometry and orientation of the sun when it is noon, when it is sunrise, and when it is midnight, and when it is sunset. the only thing that changes is the distance between the smiley-face observer and the point on the planet directly below the sun.
think about that and see if you can imagine how exactly the same picture can describe a sunny day and the deepest part of the night??
but ((reality)) a spherical earth rotating at an angle and orbiting around a star perfectly, reliably, accurately, predictably, and demonstrably describes exactly what you see when you actually go outside and look at the sky.
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Yea what gary just said. Just like the cars and boats. They appear to be falling off the earth even when they a a mile away because they are going into a wormhole that our eyes see everything go into. They are not going down flat it goes into a tunnel. Thats why I sent you the railroad tracks, they are side by side yet still getting closer together, well in appearance. That was to show you its not just up and down but side to side also. You only see the sun set because the ground is flat. If the ground was actually curved you would see two balls coming into one, not one falling behind the other.
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Dude you are so worried about debunking people and saying you are disproving lies that you are not trying to understand and thats why you are not understanding. I showed you over and over that cars and boats seem to drop off the earth just like the sun does and they are only a mile away. Anything that travels away from us looks like it is going towards the middle of wherever we are looking in a tunnel and disappears halfway into the ground.
On a flat earth if the sun is 3000 miles above earth at all times,the sun coming towards us would not look the same.
It would not be so dark for so long without being able to see the light of the sun.
Even if it is dark in our area,and the light has not reached our area yet,we should still see the sun in the sky,and the light of it,like we can see a match being lit,or a light,but the light does not light our area,only see the light of it.
It can be light in our area,in the morning time,but we cannot see the sun yet,and on a sphere that would make sense,but how on a flat earth.How can it be light,and we see the light,and it is light in our area,but not see the sun yet,if the sun is 3000 miles above earth.
We should be able to see the sun in the sky for more than what we do,and it would not be dark in our area for so long,without at least seeing the sun in the far distance before the light reaches us.
Some people did an illustration of how the sun can appear to come over the horizon on a flat surface,by putting the camera at the level of the table,so we could only see it flat,and then running a coin along the surface of it,from the back of the table to the front of the table,and the coin would look as if it is coming over the horizon.
But the sun is not running along the surface of the earth,but they say it is 3000 miles above earth,so why don't they put that coin up even one foot in the air,and try again,and see if it appears to be coming up over the horizon.
They try to prove their belief by an illustration that is not even illustrated right.
Do flat earth people have equipment that can actually measure that the sun is 3000 feet above the earth at all times,for if they do not have any equipment,how do they make their calculations.
Also gravity,in which if it were a flat earth,then people would be pulled to the center of the earth,but on a sphere no matter where you stand the same amount of sphere is under you,so we experience gravity downward.
Psa 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
From the rising of the sun to the going down of the same.It appears is says what it means that that the sun actually goes down,and rises,which on a sphere it would do that,but not on a flat earth is the sun is 3000 miles above earth at all times.
If someone were in the center of a flat earth,could they see the sun at all times because of how high it is in the sky.
I do not believe everything that NASA claim,but it seems like the earth is a sphere,but whether it is a sphere or flat,it is not going to change my belief in the Bible.
It would not be so dark for so long without being able to see the light of the sun.
Even if it is dark in our area,and the light has not reached our area yet,we should still see the sun in the sky,and the light of it,like we can see a match being lit,or a light,but the light does not light our area,only see the light of it.
It can be light in our area,in the morning time,but we cannot see the sun yet,and on a sphere that would make sense,but how on a flat earth.How can it be light,and we see the light,and it is light in our area,but not see the sun yet,if the sun is 3000 miles above earth.
We should be able to see the sun in the sky for more than what we do,and it would not be dark in our area for so long,without at least seeing the sun in the far distance before the light reaches us.
Some people did an illustration of how the sun can appear to come over the horizon on a flat surface,by putting the camera at the level of the table,so we could only see it flat,and then running a coin along the surface of it,from the back of the table to the front of the table,and the coin would look as if it is coming over the horizon.
But the sun is not running along the surface of the earth,but they say it is 3000 miles above earth,so why don't they put that coin up even one foot in the air,and try again,and see if it appears to be coming up over the horizon.
They try to prove their belief by an illustration that is not even illustrated right.
Do flat earth people have equipment that can actually measure that the sun is 3000 feet above the earth at all times,for if they do not have any equipment,how do they make their calculations.
Also gravity,in which if it were a flat earth,then people would be pulled to the center of the earth,but on a sphere no matter where you stand the same amount of sphere is under you,so we experience gravity downward.
Psa 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.
From the rising of the sun to the going down of the same.It appears is says what it means that that the sun actually goes down,and rises,which on a sphere it would do that,but not on a flat earth is the sun is 3000 miles above earth at all times.
If someone were in the center of a flat earth,could they see the sun at all times because of how high it is in the sky.
I do not believe everything that NASA claim,but it seems like the earth is a sphere,but whether it is a sphere or flat,it is not going to change my belief in the Bible.
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The earth does get darker when the sun gets further away. Its called night time. Light still travels in front of it though. Like a light bulb lights up a whole room, not just below it. Also its a ball of heat, the heat wont travel in front of it, it travels behind it. Thats why its cooler in the mornings. If the sun and moon went in a circle the day and night would look like a yinyang symbol.
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I can even determine the CC storage path and place it in a post with IMG tags:
[IMG]http://christianchat.com/attachments/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/171838d1499669328-how-prove-earth-flat-not-sphere-cc-posthuman-201707100150-art_degree_comment.jpg[/IMG]
Within minutes -- POOF! -- it becomes non-existent!
[IMG]http://christianchat.com/attachments/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/171838d1499669328-how-prove-earth-flat-not-sphere-cc-posthuman-201707100150-art_degree_comment.jpg[/IMG]
Within minutes -- POOF! -- it becomes non-existent!
Do you mean you select an image from a folder on your computer and it gets attached as an image file and then disappears? Have you tried using an image hosting site? (http://postimg.org) It would only take a half minute extra to upload an image to a host site and then grab the direct image link url and post it here, and then it should not disappear.
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Whether 'attached' or 'inline' ( using IMG tags ), it is there for a few minutes -- then, it is gone...
Directly below the following line is an inserted image with IMG tags:
[IMG]http://christianchat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171842&d=1499672795[/IMG]
After I post this, I will try to edit it and add the "full path" URL in IMG tags below this line...
EDIT: Or, maybe not...
In any case -- we shall see if the above image "stays"...
Directly below the following line is an inserted image with IMG tags:
[IMG]http://christianchat.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171842&d=1499672795[/IMG]
After I post this, I will try to edit it and add the "full path" URL in IMG tags below this line...
EDIT: Or, maybe not...
In any case -- we shall see if the above image "stays"...
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