A Study of Torah from Gen. - Rev.

[miknik5]

Ok friend, I can't wait to read your study on the garments

I already posted my understanding of THE garment

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

I already posted my understanding of THE garment

Thank you friend

 

[WingsOfFidelity]

man, are you reading the scripture? it says he is a fugitive in plain daylight GENESIS ;4 14

The word translated in General. 4:14 as fugitive does not mean it in the way we see the word. The original word did not mean someone running from the law.

Fugitive:
H5128

Original: נוּע
Transliteration: nûa‛
Phonetic: noo'-ah
BDB Definition:

1. to quiver, totter, shake, reel, stagger, wander, move, sift, make move, wave, waver, tremble
   1. (Qal)
      1. to wave, quiver, vibrate, swing, stagger, tremble, be unstable
      2. to totter, go tottering
         1. vagabond (participle)
   2. (Niphal) to be tossed about or around
   3. (Hiphil)
      1. to toss about
      2. to shake, cause to totter
      3. to shake, disturb
      4. to cause to wander

Origin: a primitive root
TWOT entry: 1328
Part(s) of speech: Verb
Strong's Definition: A primitive root; to waver, in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively (as subjoined): - continually, fugitive, X make to [go] up and down, be gone away, (be) move (-able, -d), be promoted, reel, remove, scatter, set, shake, sift, stagger, to and fro, be vagabond, wag, (make) wander (up and down).

 

[WingsOfFidelity]

I hate spell check. I meant genesis 4:14 not general.

 

[Rainrider]

I hate spell check. I meant genesis 4:14 not general.

I think we all hate spell check. Well at times anyway. Some days it is my best friend.

I thank you your post on names, I do understand that impotence is placed on every word, as the Rabbis have always took time to cover them with great detail. I do need folks to point that kind of thing out however. As I seen little use of the meaning of words, letters, and so on. That was my reason for dropping Kabbalah. In my mind it distracted from the meaning of the story, and often left more than a little dough in my mind.
As we know, we all have our own needs from the word, and it works to fill the need in everyone's life. I also took a cue from Rev. on that, that turned me away from kabbalistic teachings of any kind.
First what is Kabbalah?
It is a medieval and modern system of Jewish theosophy, mysticism, and thaumaturgy marked by belief in creation through emanation and a cipher method of interpreting Scripture

what does Rev. have to say about it's study?
Now keep in mind you may understand this a bit differently than I do. After all this opens with talk of sexual sin, and eating food offered to ideas.

Rev 2:24 “But I also have a message for the rest of you in Thyatira who have not followed this false teaching (‘deeper truths,' as they call them—depths of Satan, actually). I will ask nothing more of you.

I think that lets you know why I don't get into that form of teaching. Don't get me wrong, for any that find it of interest, I am sure that some will post it. I just thought I needed to make clear why I won't.
Thank you.

 

[miknik5]

Notice that there is no acknowledgement of THE GARMENT, of a COVERING needed in order for what is unclean to come into the presence of a HOLY GOD?

 

[miknik5]

In light of THE TRUTH that it is only through CHRIST that we have access to THE FATHER (by ONE SPIRIT) and the parable of THE WEDDING GARMENT, (Matthew 22) can anyone just come up to the altar uncovered?

especially since OT law says not to come up to the altar on "steps" lest your nakedness be uncovered (exodus 20)

 

[miknik5]

Would anyone like to discuss the meaning of "steps"
in light of the TRUTH that GOD said to pay careful attention to THE FOUNDATION?

 

[miknik5]

So sorry for my zeal!

Oh how I looooooove HIS WORD
I can't get over the TRUTH how GOD hid HIS WORD throughout HIS WORD!!!


Dod anyone know that THE TRSTIMKNY of JESUS is THE SPIRIT of PROPHECY?
Thatvevery word of GOD, from Genesis to revelation, spoke of and pointed us to HIS SON!!

 

[miknik5]

I think before looking at the skins it is also important to understand that God made the first (and the last ) blood sacrifice. If God did not sacrificed the animals for Adam and Eve they would have died in Eden the day they sinned (grace ). We can see through the Bible that God's character (Torah) does not change. He is the non changing One. We just need to seek it out.

God bless

He provided a temporal covering until THE ETERNAL COVERING would come

but yes it is important to understand that GOD provided the sacrifice

just as Abraham prophecied

I believe we should not pass over the garment so quickly as it is a picture of CHRIST's COVERING which GOD would provide

GOD knew not only mankind/Adam/our fall...HE more importantly knew the victory in HIS SON

HE sent mankind/Adam/us from HIS PRESENCE covered over in a temporal covering knowing full that HE would pursue us with the Only GARMENT needed...That of HIS SON

Rainrider,

are you in agreement that Genesis 3, the covering of skins provided by the hand of GOD, was a picture pointing us to CHRIST, and THE INLY "CLOKE" needed for our sins (just as john 15 as well stated)?

 

[Zmouth]

I think we all hate spell check. Well at times anyway. Some days it is my best friend.

I thank you your post on names, I do understand that impotence is placed on every word, as the Rabbis have always took time to cover them with great detail.

How much impotence is place on every word?

 

[Zmouth]

So sorry for my zeal!

Oh how I looooooove HIS WORD
I can't get over the TRUTH how GOD hid HIS WORD throughout HIS WORD!!!


Dod anyone know that THE TRSTIMKNY of JESUS is THE SPIRIT of PROPHECY?
Thatvevery word of GOD, from Genesis to revelation, spoke of and pointed us to HIS SON!!

So tell us, since it is written,

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Romans 6:3

Which account of the resurrection is accurate?

Matthew 28
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Mark 16
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

Luke 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

John 20
1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Matt 3:16


Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 20:6

 

[miknik5]

So tell us, since it is written,

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Romans 6:3

Which account of the resurrection is accurate?

Matthew 28
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.

Mark 16
2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
3 And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?
4 And when they looked, they saw that the stone was rolled away: for it was very great.
5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

Luke 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.
3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.
4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

John 20
1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.

And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Matt 3:16


Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 20:6

All of them

know Ye not there are 12 hours in a day?

first day of the werk, (since the sabbath is identified as Saturday, the seventh day, and the day of rest) is Sunday

 

[Zmouth]

All of them

know Ye not there are 12 hours in a day?

first day of the werk, (since the sabbath is identified as Saturday, the seventh day, and the day of rest) is Sunday

Actually, the light illuminates the face of the earth 24 hours a day.

 

[miknik5]

Actually, the light illuminates the face of the earth 24 hours a day.

We are people and there are signs and lights for season and time as we live in this physical and limited world

And since CHRIST spoke by THE SPIRIT, and HIS WORDS are SPIRIT, im pretty sure that HIS WORD is TRUE and accurate

therefore since HE said are there not 12 hours in the day...walk while you have the light lest darkness come and Ye be overcome, HIS WORD into the matter of day and night should be noted

 

[miknik5]

Actually, the light illuminates the face of the earth 24 hours a day.

Did you know that light is temporal?

 

[miknik5]

It's interesting that there has been silence in this thread as soon as CHRIST is mentioned
And now this most recent query is more an attempt to try to discredit THE TRUTH

No one will be able to

Everything written throughout THE written WORD of GOD (from Genesis to Revelation) spoke of and pointed to HIM

 

[miknik5]

Actually, the light illuminates the face of the earth 24 hours a day.

Did you know that light is temporal?

Actually, let me clarify.

The light you are speaking of is temporal



THE LIGHT of the world who is THE LIGHT and LIFE of men isn't temporal

 

[Zmouth]

Well, you asked if I knew that there are twelve hours in a day, which obviously is a reference to the passage in John 11:9-10.
Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.

know Ye not there are 12 hours in a day?

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1

Did you know that light is temporal?

Did you know that the written word is visible light?

 

[miknik5]

Well, you asked if I knew that there are twelve hours in a day, which obviously is a reference to the passage in John 11:9-10.
Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.


3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1



Did you know that the written word is visible light?

Yes I did. And the TESTIMONY of JESUS