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What on God's green earth are you wanting to argue about now. SO, it can be found in pagan religions too. What has that got to do with the Price of Apples in ISRAEL. The CROSS can be found in pagan religions too. SO WHAT? It stands for what you want it to mean in your heart. The same is true about the Star of David, which is WIDELY ACCEPTED as a Symbol that Represents Judaism and the Nation Israel.
Well thank God that the original Greek actually reads 600, 60 and 6. And thank God that His word says this is a number of a man, not a book or counterfeit book... LOL, be real.
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Matthew 16:27-28 KJV
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
[28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
People standing with Jesus will not die until they see the Son of man coming WITH his kingdom. How is this future?
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
[28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
People standing with Jesus will not die until they see the Son of man coming WITH his kingdom. How is this future?
What attitude? That the KJV1611 has grammatical and translation errors along with every other version? Besides that, if the NKJV is not the word of God why would Satan want to tell us that? Seems to he'd want to keep that to himself. Satan doesn't want us to read the word of God.
I suppose you heard all the valid reasons for modern translations, so I won't go there. I have better things to do.
I suppose you heard all the valid reasons for modern translations, so I won't go there. I have better things to do.
Good day KJV1611,
The above scripture is one of many of the most misinterpreted scriptures. Please consider the following:
Matt.16:28
"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”
Mark 9:2
"Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God arrive with power.”
Luke 9:27
"But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
As you can see from the three instances in red in the three gospels differ slightly, but they are all referring to the same event. Most people when they read this scripture immediately assume that Jesus is talking about his return, which as we will find out is a false assumption.
Below is Luke's account:
"But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God. About eight days after Jesus had said these things, He took Peter, John, and James, and went up on a mountain to pray. And as He was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became radiantly white."
So, Jesus says "there are some here who will not taste of death until they see the kingdom of God.
The next verse continues with "about eight days after Jesus had said this," which infers that the information in the next verse is related to what Jesus said about those not tasting death.
The next verse then states that Jesus took with him Peter, John and James, which are those in the verse who were standing there who would not taste of death.
Following that, the verse states that Jesus face changed and his clothes became radiantly white. Peter, John and James witnessed Jesus transform into His glorified state, which is what he meant when he said "that those standing there would not taste of death until they see the Son of Man coming in kingdom. Jesus was not inferring that those standing there would see him return to the earth. He was referring to them seeing him in his glorified state.
As an example of the phrase used in Luke's version "until they see the kingdom of God," let's look at another verse that uses that same phrase:
"And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."
As you can see from the scripture above, when Jesus said "the kingdom of God has come upon you" it was not in regards to his returning to the earth, but was referring to His casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit.
In conclusion, Peter, John and James were those who are standing there who would not taste of death until they saw the Son of man coming in his kingdom, which was fulfilled a week later when they saw him transform into his glorified state.
I truly hope you find this beneficial, because it is the truth what Jesus was referring to.
The above scripture is one of many of the most misinterpreted scriptures. Please consider the following:
Matt.16:28
"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”
Mark 9:2
"Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God arrive with power.”
Luke 9:27
"But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God.”
As you can see from the three instances in red in the three gospels differ slightly, but they are all referring to the same event. Most people when they read this scripture immediately assume that Jesus is talking about his return, which as we will find out is a false assumption.
Below is Luke's account:
"But I tell you truthfully, some who are standing here will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God. About eight days after Jesus had said these things, He took Peter, John, and James, and went up on a mountain to pray. And as He was praying, the appearance of His face changed, and His clothes became radiantly white."
So, Jesus says "there are some here who will not taste of death until they see the kingdom of God.
The next verse continues with "about eight days after Jesus had said this," which infers that the information in the next verse is related to what Jesus said about those not tasting death.
The next verse then states that Jesus took with him Peter, John and James, which are those in the verse who were standing there who would not taste of death.
Following that, the verse states that Jesus face changed and his clothes became radiantly white. Peter, John and James witnessed Jesus transform into His glorified state, which is what he meant when he said "that those standing there would not taste of death until they see the Son of Man coming in kingdom. Jesus was not inferring that those standing there would see him return to the earth. He was referring to them seeing him in his glorified state.
As an example of the phrase used in Luke's version "until they see the kingdom of God," let's look at another verse that uses that same phrase:
"And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."
As you can see from the scripture above, when Jesus said "the kingdom of God has come upon you" it was not in regards to his returning to the earth, but was referring to His casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit.
In conclusion, Peter, John and James were those who are standing there who would not taste of death until they saw the Son of man coming in his kingdom, which was fulfilled a week later when they saw him transform into his glorified state.
I truly hope you find this beneficial, because it is the truth what Jesus was referring to.
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You are partly correct. Woot woot
But all three accounts are not referring to Jesus's 2nd Coming for the simple reason they are not parousia, but erchomai.
It is just a linguistic mist.
If we translated parousia as 'appearance/return/coming' and erchomai as 'ascension' there would be no confusion at all.
The three quotations refer to Jesus ascension to the Throne of David in AD70 - as prophesied by Daniel, "and he shall anoint a Most Holy Place"
Where there is no priesthood, there is no High Priest. Where there is no high priest there is no one to anoint a King.
Once the Levitical Priesthood was finished, there was only one place where the throne could be.
But all three accounts are not referring to Jesus's 2nd Coming for the simple reason they are not parousia, but erchomai.
It is just a linguistic mist.
If we translated parousia as 'appearance/return/coming' and erchomai as 'ascension' there would be no confusion at all.
The three quotations refer to Jesus ascension to the Throne of David in AD70 - as prophesied by Daniel, "and he shall anoint a Most Holy Place"
Where there is no priesthood, there is no High Priest. Where there is no high priest there is no one to anoint a King.
Once the Levitical Priesthood was finished, there was only one place where the throne could be.
I agree those verses are all talking about the same thing, but none of them are talking about the transfiguration for several reasons, but for 2 reasons specifically.
1) Where were the angels at the transfiguration?
2) Where was every man rewarded according to his works at the transfiguration?
Matthew 16:27-28 KJV
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. [28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
If we think about this carefully, when did Jesus come with his angels and reward them according to their works?
Matthew 27:51-53 KJV
And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
[52] And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
[53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Now you know when the SON OF MAN returned.
1) Where were the angels at the transfiguration?
2) Where was every man rewarded according to his works at the transfiguration?
Matthew 16:27-28 KJV
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. [28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
If we think about this carefully, when did Jesus come with his angels and reward them according to their works?
Matthew 27:51-53 KJV
And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
[52] And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
[53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Now you know when the SON OF MAN returned.