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Genesis 1 "states" that the birds fly in the same 'space' that the sun, moon, and stars occupy.
Earth is Flat and Stationary
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Well,,, I say, they symbolize or allegorize everything so its either fits their lifestyle and/or their 'ACTUAL' belief in GOD.....
You see GOD wrote the entire Bible mostly through the fingertips of men (His fingertips wrote a few). If He can control their minds and fingertips when writing the originals then he can control the printing presses the make man's copies of the Holy Bible.
What they DON'T have is the Faith (Faith Alone) to believe in Jesus. WHY Because to Believe in Jesus Christ is to Believe in ALL of Him.
I put those blogs online under my name Bladerunner the very first day I came and I was told then that they would ruin my reputation...Well it went from 10 to 0 or 1....BUT I am still here. Teaching what HE says 'HIS WORDs and ONLY HIS Words'.
I was an believer in God and His Word (the Holy Bible) long before the 70's. While the Blogs are reprinted versions of articles containing arguments of a "flat earth" via Biblical verses,. they do not include all of the verses but rather the majority along with commentary. \
While I did not write these articles, I have full confidence that God's hand was upon the shoulder of the actual writer.
Again, to have Faith in Jesus Christ without any stipulations, one has to believe in the Holy Bible which is God's WORD with the same amount of Zest (for lack of an appropriate word, as said I am not a writer) we believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It is an all in one package and all one has to do is have Faith and Faith Alone in Jesus Christ.
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Pulling one verse out of the bible is like eating one ingredient of bread, I.e., malnourishing.
Scripture teaches that here are three heavens and that two of them are below where God dwells.
See Hebrews 7:26
First heaven is what you're breathing and where the birds fly as per Genesis 1.
Second heaven is outer space (inferred).
Third Heaven is paradise as per 2 Corinthians 12.
Pulling one verse out of the bible is like eating one ingredient of bread, I.e., malnourishing.
Scripture teaches that here are three heavens and that two of them are below where God dwells.
See Hebrews 7:26
Hebrews 7:26 " For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;"
I am sorry, I do not see it. .
First heaven is what you're breathing and where the birds fly as per Genesis 1.
OK,,,,Gen 1: 20 "20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
But you forgot to add these.....Gen 1:16-17..."16 And God made two great lights; the greater light (SUN) to rule the day, and the lesser light (MOON) to rule the night: he made the stars also.17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,"
I do not take lightly the verses in the Bible. Here you say: "Pulling one verse out of the bible is like eating one ingredient of bread, I.e., malnourishing." But yet you pull these verses above out by themselves... A bit of hypocrisy maybe?
Second heaven is outer space (inferred).
Third Heaven is paradise as per 2 Corinthians 12.
To be exact 2 Cor 12:2:.."2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knowethsuch an one caught up to the third heaven."
Yes, the Bible tells us there are three heavens.... With the Sun, moon and stars in the first heaven. The Throne room ( the Mezzanine) is in third heaven. What is in the second heaven(water???????????).
Hope you all have a blessed day.
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Huckleberry
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Keep going.......To be exact 2 Cor 12:2:.."2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities.
Concerning Hebrews 7:26, can't help you.
I believe that God worked with people, including the writers of scripture, according to their understanding at the time, and the ancient Hebrews believed the earth was indeed flat. This pic demonstrates more or less what they thought:
Was their UNDERSTANDING correct?
No.
The earth is not flat.
Was their UNDERSTANDING correct?
No.
The earth is not flat.
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pckts
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shrume;3170349[COLOR=#ff0000 said:]I believe that God worked with people, including the writers of scripture, according to their understanding at the time[/COLOR], and the ancient Hebrews believed the earth was indeed flat. This pic demonstrates more or less what they thought:
Was their UNDERSTANDING correct?
No.
The earth is not flat.
This belief of yours is incorrect. Your understanding is incorrect.
Yes
The earth is flat.
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Huckleberry
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Explain the 3 uses of the word CIRCLE...........that jives with FLAT................
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
the circle-->
chug: vault, horizon
Original Word: חוּג
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: chug
Phonetic Spelling: (khoog)
Short Definition: circle
Job 22:14HEB: וְלֹ֣א יִרְאֶ֑ה וְח֥וּג שָׁ֝מַ֗יִם יִתְהַלָּֽךְ׃
NAS: And He walks on the vault of heaven.'
KJV: not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
INT: cannot see the vault of heaven walks
Proverbs 8:27
HEB: אָ֑נִי בְּח֥וּקוֹ ח֝֗וּג עַל־ פְּנֵ֥י
NAS: When He inscribed a circle on the face
KJV: I [was] there: when he set a compass upon the face
INT: he inscribed A circle on the face
Isaiah 40:22
HEB: הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ
NAS: above the circle of the earth,
KJV: [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
INT: sits above the circle of the earth inhabitants3 Occurrences
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
the circle-->
chug: vault, horizon
Original Word: חוּג
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: chug
Phonetic Spelling: (khoog)
Short Definition: circle
Job 22:14HEB: וְלֹ֣א יִרְאֶ֑ה וְח֥וּג שָׁ֝מַ֗יִם יִתְהַלָּֽךְ׃
NAS: And He walks on the vault of heaven.'
KJV: not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven.
INT: cannot see the vault of heaven walks
Proverbs 8:27
HEB: אָ֑נִי בְּח֥וּקוֹ ח֝֗וּג עַל־ פְּנֵ֥י
NAS: When He inscribed a circle on the face
KJV: I [was] there: when he set a compass upon the face
INT: he inscribed A circle on the face
Isaiah 40:22
HEB: הַיֹּשֵׁב֙ עַל־ ח֣וּג הָאָ֔רֶץ וְיֹשְׁבֶ֖יהָ
NAS: above the circle of the earth,
KJV: [It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,
INT: sits above the circle of the earth inhabitants3 Occurrences
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pckts
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The Circle of the earth and the 4 corners of the earth are components of the same earth.
Rough sketch showing the possibility of what shapes can do:
The Circle of the earth and the 4 corners of the earth are components of the same earth.
Rough sketch showing the possibility of what shapes can do:
Now draw that circle with God sitting above it on his throne with the earth his footstool.......then explain how in the NORTH we have summer right now while in Australia it is the dead of winter......
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pckts
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No problem
The path the sun takes on the flat earth varies throughout the year. It doesn't travel in the same perfect circle year round.
The sun and moon are currently traveling in a circle near that yellow region, which places it very far away from Australia and close to North America. Between Now and December the Sun will begin to shift slowly until it's path is over the orange line, making it summer in Australia and winter in North America due to proximity from the Sun. Then it will work it's way back in reverse.
No light years, no earth's "tilt". It's a different model with different working parts.
No problem
The path the sun takes on the flat earth varies throughout the year. It doesn't travel in the same perfect circle year round.
The sun and moon are currently traveling in a circle near that yellow region, which places it very far away from Australia and close to North America. Between Now and December the Sun will begin to shift slowly until it's path is over the orange line, making it summer in Australia and winter in North America due to proximity from the Sun. Then it will work it's way back in reverse.
No light years, no earth's "tilt". It's a different model with different working parts.
OK.....now back your graph with verses that state the sun shifts in it's revolution around the earth.....and SEVEN Earths......
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It's 4th of July and I'm trying to have a nice day today. Why am I going to keep satisfying your demands when it only is met with more demands, dismissal, criticism, and "close-minded" behavior?
Back your "tilt" with verse. We are talking "science" now, and as I'm often told by the deceived "The Bible is not a science book". It's not specific in these areas, doesn't mean it isn't true.
I tell you to look into the occultists who created and purport the lie, the video analysis of "outer space", mars, moon, ISS and the weather balloon videos and maps created from flight data. You won't. I'm done.
If I tell you that Enoch speaks of the axis tilt of the earth you will just dismiss it....hey....enjoy the 4th....the bible states to always be ready to give an answer....if these things are not spelled out in scripture at the end of the day it is all speculation....so....1st....show me a verse or two that proves the 7 earths in your posted graph....that should be evident from scripture....
to the bolded above....questions, seeking answers and where is the criticism and "close-minded" behavior....man you sure are dismissive of others and defensive of your views......why is that?
