Catholic believe pope is infallible

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Jackson123 said:
like my church believe Bible is the word of God. It is writen in the bylaw.
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my church believes a man and women living together are breaking a command from the Most High and sinning even though there is no such command.

doctrine just means a group of men voted a rule, it does not mean its a command from the heavens.
 
jaybird88 said:
my church believes a man and women living together are breaking a command from the Most High and sinning even though there is no such command.

doctrine just means a group of men voted a rule, it does not mean its a command from the heavens.
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yup doctrine not always inline with the Bible.
 
jaybird88 said:
dont you think Catholics know this just the same as you and I?
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no body Perfect

the water we drink every day not bactery free. But we not drink drainase water from the sink

there isn't perfect church, but we not go to Hindu temple to worship Jesus.

catholic and baptis is Two different religion,not only different denomination

Baptis and methodist are 2 different denomination, same religion

my church is not perfect. But if people in my church pray to mary, i Will go to an other church
 
Jackson123 said:
no body Perfect

the water we drink every day not bactery free. But we not drink drainase water from the sink

there isn't perfect church, but we not go to Hindu temple to worship Jesus.

catholic and baptis is Two different religion,not only different denomination

Baptis and methodist are 2 different denomination, same religion

my church is not perfect. But if people in my church pray to mary, i Will go to an other church
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so you think Catholics do not follw Jesus? who do they follow? who is their teacher at the source of their faith?
 
jaybird88 said:
so you think Catholics do not follw Jesus? who do they follow? who is their teacher at the source of their faith?
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the main Souurce of Baptis is bible
there is No pray to mary
ther is No Queen of heaven

catholic believe mary is queen of heaven, purgatory etc

i believe It is paganism source, cover with Bible AS a wrapper. But the contents is pagan
 
kaylagrl said:
You can both follow God and attend church. Yes,some pastors may pursue their own agenda,thats why you become a member and vote them out,if need be. Or attend another church. A lot of great churches out there doing the work of the Lord,Ive visited many.
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I attend church, spend half of my Mondays helping with maintenance chores, and sing in the choir.
 
FranC said:
Never did check my brain at the door!h

But would we know about the Trinity , for instance, without theologians.?
I believe not...
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The Trinity is in the Bible. It might not have been called "The Trinity" but the Bible teaches us that the Lord "wears three caps" (as one person described it).

I went to Sunday school as a kid and learned about theology, but now that I'm an adult, I need to revisit some of those issues.
 
Jackson123 said:
the main Souurce of Baptis is bible
there is No pray to mary
ther is No Queen of heaven

catholic believe mary is queen of heaven, purgatory etc

i believe It is paganism source, cover with Bible AS a wrapper. But the contents is pagan
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so there was this mary queen of heaven that started a religion called Catholicism? not sure i agree with that. the source of the Catholic faith is Jesus, the same as you church, sorry.

i agree that Catholics have corrupt leaders but this is the same with any denomination.
 
resurrection33 said:
The Trinity is in the Bible. It might not have been called "The Trinity" but the Bible teaches us that the Lord "wears three caps" (as one person described it).

I went to Sunday school as a kid and learned about theology, but now that I'm an adult, I need to revisit some of those issues.
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That sounds more like Oneness teaching. The Trinity teaches that there is one God, YHVH, who is revealed in three distinct Persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Persons implies distinct personhood. Each are co-essential (sharing the same essence) and co-eternal (they have each existed since eternity).

The "hats" view would seem like Oneness teaching, as it would deny the distinct Personhood aspect of the Trinity.

God is a multi-personal being...unlike man, who is a uni-personal being.
 
FranC said:
Some do.
Ex cathedra only...
But not too many.
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This is more accurate.

The Pope is viewed as infallible if he speaks "ex cathedra" or from the Papal seat. Which is pretty rare.

I think the teachings of the Magisterium are considered infallible, though.

The funny thing is that they conflict. At some councils they have said only Roman Catholics would be saved, but they have changed that in other councils.

James White has a good book on Roman Catholicism called the Roman Catholic Controversy. Unlike many others, he researches using primary sources and not interpretations of primary sources obtained from Dr. Google.
 
jaybird88 said:
so you think Catholics do not follw Jesus? who do they follow? who is their teacher at the source of their faith?
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They follow the church. Their teacher is the pope.

The catholic Jesus cannot save. The catholic Jesus makes it possible for a good catholic to enter heaven by sacraments and some time in purgatory.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
notuptome said:
They follow the church. Their teacher is the pope.

The catholic Jesus cannot save. The catholic Jesus makes it possible for a good catholic to enter heaven by sacraments and some time in purgatory.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I'm not bible scholar but I believe that there is only one Jesus.
 
jaybird88 said:
so there was this mary queen of heaven that started a religion called Catholicism? not sure i agree with that. the source of the Catholic faith is Jesus, the same as you church, sorry.

i agree that Catholics have corrupt leaders but this is the same with any denomination.
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I am Sorry I do not believe purgatory or mary is queen of heaven, or pray to saint as Jesus teaching

i believe It is paganism
 
Jackson123 said:
I am Sorry I do not believe purgatory or mary is queen of heaven, or pray to saint as Jesus teaching

i believe It is paganism
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they are just doctrines, the Catholic faith does not rvolve around those two things and those things are not the source of the Catholic faith.

mary and purgatory both go back much further than the RCC and they go back to Judaism.
 
FranC said:
This is the original quote:
Originally Posted by Test_F_i_2_Luv View Post

The RCC(and orthodox and some other denominations) teaching of being "born again" is infant baptism.
What RC's need to understand is that God dwells inside of us continually when we repent and invite Him to dwell inside and surrender to His ways.

It seems some RCs think God is only inside when they take communion/Eucharist...which goes in the stomach(at best).

What is not true is that the RCC believes that we are saved at baptism.
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[video=youtube;05YB2jdHLsY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05YB2jdHLsY[/video]

Notice what the RC priest says at about 1:37 in the video.
 
FranC said:
This is the original quote:
Originally Posted by Test_F_i_2_Luv View Post

The RCC(and orthodox and some other denominations) teaching of being "born again" is infant baptism.
What RC's need to understand is that God dwells inside of us continually when we repent and invite Him to dwell inside and surrender to His ways.

It seems some RCs think God is only inside when they take communion/Eucharist...which goes in the stomach(at best).

What is not true is that the RCC believes that we are saved at baptism.
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[video=youtube;fV8uu9-sYSk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV8uu9-sYSk[/video]

Notice what the RC Bishop says at about 5:07
 
jaybird88 said:
they are just doctrines, the Catholic faith does not rvolve around those two things and those things are not the source of the Catholic faith.

mary and purgatory both go back much further than the RCC and they go back to Judaism.
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it is doctrine

this definition of doctrine

n of doctrine
a : something that is taughtb : a principle or position or the body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief : dogma Catholic doctrinec

  • 1archaic : teaching, instruction
  • 2a : something that is taughtb : a principle or position or the body of principles in a branch of knowledge or system of belief : dogma Catholic doctrinec law : a principle of law established through past decisionsd : a statement of fundamental government policy especially in international relations the Truman Doctrinee : a military principle or set of strategies


    something that is tought

    mary AS queen of heaven and purgatory is something that is tought in catholic, so It is doctrine
 
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