The Rapture

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? The KJV translators didn't know God inspired them to write what they wrote.
WOW, you swallowed the KJ ONLY line hook, line, and sinker.
 

Gabriel2020

Senior Member
May 6, 2017
1,099
41
48
I knew you would respond in such a manner. First of all , Im going to tell you what I was instructed to do in 2005 by God. I wanted to know the truth about him and creation of man. he instructed me to read genesis from the very beginning. word by word, sentence by sentence, and not to go any further until I had gotten the revelation. It took me seven years to get through the old testament . there was no hurry what so ever. I missed nothing. I only speak what I know from scripture. It's in the bible of the old testament. You could call me a liar if you want, but you will have to answer to God, because I did what he instructed me to do. I understand what creation of mankind is all about and God's plan for us all very well.
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
I knew you would respond in such a manner. First of all , Im going to tell you what I was instructed to do in 2005 by God. I wanted to know the truth about him and creation of man. he instructed me to read genesis from the very beginning. word by word, sentence by sentence, and not to go any further until I had gotten the revelation. It took me seven years to get through the old testament . there was no hurry what so ever. I missed nothing. I only speak what I know from scripture. It's in the bible of the old testament. You could call me a liar if you want, but you will have to answer to God, because I did what he instructed me to do. I understand what creation of mankind is all about and God's plan for us all very well.
Did you over look who the CREATOR is, and really KNOWING HIM.
 
May 13, 2017
2,359
27
0
Here is my guess.


[video=youtube;NzlG28B-R8Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y[/video]


Lots of posts here, coming from there.
Uh....Yeah I should have known better than to ask. Denadii! Consider the source!
 

Gabriel2020

Senior Member
May 6, 2017
1,099
41
48
I don't respond to self righteous people. I told you it was in the bible, and still wont believe. hard hearted people.
 
May 13, 2017
2,359
27
0
The rapture topic is long gone lol. This thread is all the place as far as end times go. My view is that Jacob had his trouble in AD 70, Daniel 9:27 is Christ and we are waiting on the rapture, second coming and 1000 year reign.

Just jump in and start talking lol.
Yeah It's just fun now. And I"m supposed to be working I have a deadline to meet.
 
May 13, 2017
2,359
27
0
I don't respond to self righteous people. I told you it was in the bible, and still wont believe. hard hearted people.
You never show anybody where you find any of your stuff in the bible. Nobody else can find it. So I'm assuming that you are just spitting out words to see how they splatter.
 

Gabriel2020

Senior Member
May 6, 2017
1,099
41
48
Im sure you do feel that way (blessed is the one who believe and have not seen) . but after I give it to you, you'll have your own version. EZEKIEL ;31;6
 

Ahwatukee

Senior Member
Mar 12, 2015
11,159
2,375
113
When did was the fig tree destroyed? When did Israel cast her untimely figs? When did Jesus say no fruit would grow on the fig tree FOREVER? Forever means forever, there is no second go round at the end where the fig tree will produce fruit again.
The on-going problem is your interpreting the fig tree as referring to Israel. In addition, you are misapply scriptures that have nothing to do with each other. When Jesus cursed the fig tree, he was just cursing the fig tree. There was no underlying reference to Israel in what he did.

Also, the reference to the 6th seal regarding the unripe figs, is just an illustration of how the stars (meteorites, asteroids) are going to fall to the earth. Below is the scripture:

"And when I saw the Lamb open the sixth seal, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind. The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place."

The above is a literal event that is going to take place when the 6th seal is opened. Notice in the scripture that the sun will be darkened and the moon will be turned blood red. The fact that the scripture is speaking about what is literally going to happen to the sun and moon, would demonstrate that the reference to the stars must also be literal and not symbolic representing Israel. These are events that will be literally happening to the sun, moon and the stars. And since we know that it can't be referring to literal stars, then it must be the other objects in heavens such as meteorites or asteroids. Below is another example:


Matthew 24:32

"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door."

Do you think that the above scripture that the mentions the fig tree, that it is referring to Israel?

Luke 21:29


"Then Jesus told them a parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. 31So also, when you see these things taking place, you will know that the kingdom of God is near.

And now with the addition of "and all the trees" is the reference to the fig tree still referring to Israel? By including "all the trees" it becomes clear that the scripture is just an example to show that in the same way that when the trees blossom it is a sign that summer is near. In the same way, when all of those signs begin to take place, you can know that the end of the age is near. Point being that, it is just a comparative example and has nothing to do with Israel being represented by the fig tree.
 
May 13, 2017
2,359
27
0
Im sure you do feel that way (blessed is the one who believe and have not seen) . but after I give it to you, you'll have your own version. EZEKIEL ;31;6
A partial thought from the bible. Hmmmm
 
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
The on-going problem is your interpreting the fig tree as referring to Israel. In addition, you are misapply scriptures that have nothing to do with each other. When Jesus cursed the fig tree, he was just cursing the fig tree. There was no underlying reference to Israel in what he did.
I saw your fathers as the firstripe (early figs) in THE FIG tree... If the fathers were fruit from the fig tree, what was the fig tree?

Hosea 9:10 KJV
I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baal-peor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
Judge the book by it's content, not it's preface.
A Paraphrase is a Paraphase, and NOT A TRANSLATION. They did not Translate from the original language manuscripts, HOWEVER MOST OF THE NEW TRANSLATIONS DID.

They were primarily updating even OLDER ENGLISH phrases to put it in the English language spoken in that DAY; plus they wanted to correct some known errors in those older versions. And HERE is a beauty that they missed:

1 John 5:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Sure it sounds good, but that is NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL Language MANUSCRIPTS SAID.

1 John 5:7(NASB) (HCSB) (NRSV) (ESV) (NIV) (CSB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For there are three that testify:


AT LEAST THE YLT admitted they added to the verse, making those words in italics that were not in the original language, thereby identifying those words were only their explanation of what they thought was appropriate, WHILE THE KJV DID NOT:

1 John 5:7 (YLT)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] because three are who are testifying in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these--the three--are one;


Your right, we should not be doing this here, back to discussing the CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB.

So I really have a question about what this verse means to you.

Matthew 25:1 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.



How is it, you do not believe in the CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB?

It is so plainly visible as the MODEL of what literally WILL HAPPEN, that I cannot fathom how anyone can miss it, except that they did not get an INVITE to the Wedding. Mine is IN MY HEART, and it excites me to think about it.
 
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
The on-going problem is your interpreting the fig tree as referring to Israel. In addition, you are misapply scriptures that have nothing to do with each other. When Jesus cursed the fig tree, he was just cursing the fig tree. There was no underlying reference to Israel in what he did.
If Jesus was just cursing the fig tree for the heck of it and it didn't tie into Israel then maybe you can explain these verses. Jesus cursed the fig tree and PRESENTLY it whithered. THEN when the disciples saw the withered fig tree, they asked Jesus "How soon is the fig tree withered away". If the fig tree was already whithered when the disciples saw it, why were they asking Jesus when would the fig tree would be whithered away?

Matthew 21:19-20 KJV
And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.
[20] And when the disciples saw it , they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!
 
Nov 23, 2013
13,684
1,212
113
A Paraphrase is a Paraphase, and NOT A TRANSLATION. They did not Translate from the original language manuscripts, HOWEVER MOST OF THE NEW TRANSLATIONS DID.

They were primarily updating even OLDER ENGLISH phrases to put it in the English language spoken in that DAY; plus they wanted to correct some known errors in those older versions. And HERE is a beauty that they missed:

1 John 5:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Sure it sounds good, but that is NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL Language MANUSCRIPTS SAID.

1 John 5:7(NASB) (HCSB) (NRSV) (ESV) (NIV) (CSB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For there are three that testify:


AT LEAST THE YLT admitted they added to the verse, making those words in italics that were not in the original language, thereby identifying those words were only their explanation of what they thought was appropriate, WHILE THE KJV DID NOT:

1 John 5:7 (YLT)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] because three are who are testifying in the heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these--the three--are one;


Your right, we should not be doing this here, back to discussing the CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB.

So I really have a question about what this verse means to you.

Matthew 25:1 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.



How is it, you do not believe in the CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE TO GO TO THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB?

It is so plainly visible as the MODEL of what literally WILL HAPPEN, that I cannot fathom how anyone can miss it, except that they did not get an INVITE to the Wedding. Mine is IN MY HEART, and it excites me to think about it.
If you don't have enough sense to see that the KJV is head and shoulders above all translations then I can't help you, so just leave it alone and let me read the bible I want to read and you read the bible you want to read.