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I am not interested in debating pernickity detail with you because your whole premise is wrong!
There was no such thing as the Sabbath and Sabbath-observance prior to the institution of the law as given to Moses.
That is my reference to Genesis chapter 2. The New Covenant does away with the law and its observance in the sense that Jesus Christ fulfilled its righteous requirements on our behalf. Sabbath-observance, as with the rest of the law does not bring righteousness - only a curse and condemnation! If you wish to observe the Sabbath that is a matter for you but it places you under an obligation to keep the whole law - and you, as with everyone else in history subject to the law will fail - that is why it is a curse and that is why you will be condemned. The fact that the law is holy and righteous will not matter - the law condemns you. The law may bring you to Christ but it cannot take you any further!
Hi graceNpeace,

So nice to talk with you my friend.

I am so sorry you feel the way you do. However, our opinions are not worth very much unless we can prove what we say from God's Word. Our opinions do not really matter at all really. Its only God's Word that matters and it is to Him we must look for the truth.

"Let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged." (Rom 3:4)

May God bless you my friend
 

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Hi graceNpeace,

So nice to talk with you my friend.

I am so sorry you feel the way you do. However, our opinions are not worth very much unless we can prove what we say from God's Word. Our opinions do not really matter at all really. Its only God's Word that matters and it is to Him we must look for the truth.

"Let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged." (Rom 3:4)

May God bless you my friend
You know as well I do that Genesis chapter 2 has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
Just as much as you know exactly what Scripture I have already quoted in previous posts!

And, like I said earlier, tactics such as these: "Let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged. (Rom 3:4)" won't work.
 

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Hebrews 7:15-16
[FONT=&quot]15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Galatians 3:23-25
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[FONT=&quot]23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

Romans 7:4-6
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[FONT=&quot]4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.[/FONT]
 

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Fulfill all righteousness as my Master has said and done. Do no wrong to your brother as I can do no wrong to you if you are in Messiah. Guard the Sabbath. May the Lord of the Sabbath bring you rest.
what is the way to fulfill all righteousness?

Jesus said to John, "this is the fitting way for us to fulfill all righteousness."


the entire law is fulfilled in one word
 
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When we read the teachings of the Apostle Paul, we have to remember that we are dealing with an individual that is "super smart" :) . He was considered a genius by his peers, because when knowing the history of the time he was student of Gamaliel who wouldn't have accepted anybody but the best of the best to be his student. When Paul tells us this he is not bragging he is giving us his CV, his accomplishments so to speak. So Paul knew the OT inside out and most likely all of the Jewish laws. He most likely didn't need a Bible to recite the law, they knew it by heart.

Now you might say "thank you for the history lesson Gandalf and what is your point?". The point is Paul understood the law better than most. Most likely he kept it day after day, thinking this is my salvation.... until one day he met the Rabbi of the rabbis on his way to Damascus. What a meeting it must have been. Within seconds everything that Paul thought he knew was ripped away from him like a band aid. A truly life changing experience. Paul then realised by keeping the law without Christ is actually nothing but empty works.


If we say that "The New Covenant makes it very clear that our Sabbath rest is Jesus Christ Himself - not some day of the week!" I can also argue that I can now go out to my local shopping centre and kill people because Jesus said that death have no hold on him, or I can sleep with my neighbours wife because we are no the bride of Christ and all sins are forgiven. Maybe I don't even have to respect my earthly father or my elders because I know that God is my Father and when I have respect for Him, I am ok.

I understand what you are saying brother and I agree with you. The natural mind of man defaults to thinking that we can now kill someone because we are not under the law of Moses anymore and perhaps some that are babes in Christ may think that way but it is not true. ( personally I have never seen this happen - but it might )

However we are under the New Covenant which has the law of love, the law of faith, the law of spirit of life in Christ Jesus - the law of Christ Himself.

These "laws" of love and life will not bring us to kill people ( nor want to have sex with animals so we don't "live" by obedience to Lev. 18:23 ) - and it will lead us to believe that Jesus alone is our true Sabbath rest and in this law of Christ - we fulfill all the intent and spiritual nature of the Law.

In saying that - people are free in Christ to observe any day as they like. When they say "You must observe the Sabbath day from Friday until Saturday" or you are sinning and dis-obeying God".

This then becomes a perversion of the gospel and is in fact a Judaizing spirit that will be stood against vehemently.

I know you don't think this way nor do I consider you a Judaizer - I am just saying this to warn others from being subjected to this Judaizing spirit and there are definitely Judaizers in this thread.

Bless you!
 

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sure we can 'compare it....yet there is a distinct difference between 1Cor 11 and Acts 20 ...as I read !
right, I'm not sure myself



Jesus is recognized when he Breaks Bread

maybe a potluck

or communion

I lean towards the Lord's Supper
 

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right, I'm not sure myself



Jesus is recognized when he Breaks Bread

maybe a potluck

or communion

I lean towards the Lord's Supper
Certainly we should give thanks to God when 'breaking bread and eating'.....
doesn't make it a 'holy convocation' every time we have a meal....does it ?
 

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Hello Jackson,

I just woke up now. Its so nice to chat with you. I think as Beta said earlier the verse you quoted above is only talking about the disciples having a meal together and sharing the word of God. It says nothing about us not having to keep God's 7th Day Sabbath Holy like God commanded us to (Ex 20:8-11). In fact there is not one verse in the entire bible that says we do not need to keep God's 7th Day Sabbath anymore. You may need to study your bible further. Building on from the last posts we shared together yesterday my time from 1157, 1160, 1166 and 1168, the scriptures and facts below should help you to see further that your interpretation of God's Word is is not consistent with the rest of the Bible.

1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. (Genesis 2:1.3.)

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This stamped that day as God’s rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day thus becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath, day.

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Therefore the seventh day must always be God’s Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one on which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God’s rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God’s Sabbath day.

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The Creator blessed the seventh day. (Genesis 2:3.)

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He sanctified the seventh day. (Exodus 20:11.)

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He made it the Sabbath day in the Garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:1-3.)

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It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type; for types were not introduced till after the fall.

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Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27), that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited; hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jew.

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It is a memorial of creation. (Exodus 20:11; 31:17.) Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate that grand event.

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It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. (Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.)

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Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. (Acts 17:26.)

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It is’ not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a Jew.

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The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath, but always “the Sabbath of the Lord thy God.” Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God’s holy rest day.

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Evident reference is made to the Sabbath and the seven-day week all, through the patriarchal age. (Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10-12; 29:27-28.etc.)

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It was a part of God’s law before Sinai. (Exodus 16:4, 27-29.)

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Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. (Exodus 20:1-17.) Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?

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The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. (Deuteronomy 4:12-13.)

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Then He wrote the Commandment with His own finger. (Exodus 31:18.)

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He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. (Deuteronomy 5:22.)

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It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. (Deuteronomy 10:1-5.)

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God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. (Exodus 34:21.)

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God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. (Ezekiel 20:12-13.)

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It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. (Ezekiel 20:20.)

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God promised that Jerusalem should stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath (Jeremiah 17:24-25.)

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He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. (Nehemiah 13:18.)

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He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. (Jeremiah 17:27.)

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God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who will keep it. (Isaiah 56:6-7.)

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This is in the prophecy, which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. (See Isaiah 56.)

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God has promised to bless all who keep the Sabbath. (Isaiah 56:2.)

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The Lord requires us to call it “honourable.” (Isaiah 58:13.) Beware, ye who take delight in calling it the. “old
Jewish Sabbath,” “a yoke of bondage,” etc.

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After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down “many generations,” it is to be restored in the last days. (Isaiah 58:12-13.)

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All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.

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When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. (Luke 4:16; John 15:10.) Thus He followed
His Father’s example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?

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The seventh day is the Lord’s Day. (See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.)

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Jesus was Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28), that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her (1 Peter 3:6.)

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He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man’s good. (Mark 2:23-28.)

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Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. (Matthew 13:1-13.)

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He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was “lawful” (Matthew 12:12.)

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He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. (Matthew 24:20.)

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The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. (Luke 23:56.)

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Thirty years after Christ’s resurrection, the Holy Spirit’ expressly calls it “the Sabbath day,” (Acts 13:14.)

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Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the “Sabbath day” in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27.) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?

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Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the “Sabbath day.” (Acts 13:44.)

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The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. (Acts 13:42.)

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In the great Christian council, A.D. 49. In the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the “Sabbath day.” (Acts 15:21.)

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It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. (Acts 16:13.)

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Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. (Acts 17:2-3.)

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It was his custom to preach upon that day. (Acts 17:2-3.)

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The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4. 11.)

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There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.

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In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?

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But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. “Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple,nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all.” Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?

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The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, “the Sabbath day.”

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Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath’s being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.

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God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use - the seventh day for common labor?

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No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?

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There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.

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As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22-23.)

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The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.” Matthew 5:17

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Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same tune they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

61. The very first thing recorded In the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. (Genesis l: l-5.) The Creator Himself did this. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?

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God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. (Exodus 20:8-11.) Is it wrong to obey God?

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None of the patriarchs ever kept it.

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None of the holy prophets ever kept it.

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By the express command of-God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.

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God Himself calls it a “working” day. (Ezekiel 46:1.)

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God did not rest upon it.

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He never blessed it.

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Christ did not rest upon it.

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Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day’s work on Sunday.

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The apostles worked upon it during the same time.

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The apostles never rested upon it.

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Christ never blessed it.

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It has never been blessed by any divine authority.

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It has never been sanctified.

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No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. “Where no law
is, there is no transgression.” Romans 4:15 (See also 1 John 3:4.)

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The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.

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No penalty is provided for its violation.

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No blessing is promised for its observance.

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No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?

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It is never called the Christian Sabbath.

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It is never called the Sabbath day at all.

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It is never called the Lord’s day.

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It is never called even a rest day.

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No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?

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It is simply called “first day of the week.”

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Jesus never-mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.

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The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.

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Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favour of Sunday as a holy day.

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The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9;
Luke 24:1; John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.)

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Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.

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Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. (1Corinthians 16:2.)

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In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. (Acts 20:5-12.)

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There is not intimation that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.

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It was not their custom to meet on that day.

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There was no requirement to break bread on that day.

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We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. (Acts 20:7.)

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That was done in the night-after midnight. (Verses 7-11.) Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22),
and the disciples sometimes did it every day (Acts 2:42-46.)

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The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. (Matthew 15:1-9.) Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. (Romans 6:3-5.)

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Finally, the New Testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or any sacredness for the first day.

101. The 7th day Sabbath was a sign of the FINISHED work of creation before the fall of mankind and given to mankind by God so it is impossible to be a SHADOW which is for something that is not finished After the fall of mankind (Mark 2:27)

102. The 7th day Sabbath is the Lord's Day (see Matt 12:8)


(source: most of the above is reprinted tract from the Review and Herald 1885)

Ok hope this can be a help to you

God bless you


Hallo brother, LoveGod

after i pender i think when Paul Said about sabbath in colossians he talk about saturday and yearly sabbath. Booth call sabbath, resting day and year

and It is just a shadow of Jesus. Seem to me New Testament eliminate all shadow ritual, like sabbath, and animalia sacrifice.

The real has Ben come, replace the shadow. Jesus is love, nwo, shadow replwce by love.o

now, what ever wE do, must base oN love.

Paul say, in chirintians 13. Even If you have a faith taat able to more the mountain, If you do not have love, It Will be useless

I believe It Aldo mean even If you keep sabbath, with love, what that for.

I believe in new testament, the law progress, from shadow to real.
 
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Hi graceNpeace,

What Bible do you use because I do not really understand your last post very well.

You know as well I do that Genesis chapter 2 has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
Just as much as you know exactly what Scripture I have already quoted in previous posts!
I have nothing against any of the scriptures you shared in the previous posts. It was your interpretation of those scriptures however that was the reason for posting 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183. Those posts with all the Scriptures added show that your interpretation is not correct. I am happy for you to respond to these posts if you feel anything in them is not correct but you have not been able to so I cannot see anything wrong with them. Also to be clear Genesis has everything to do with God's 7th Day Sabbath because it is the origin of it.

Here you go, added the verses for you and where to find them in Genesis 2.

1. "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." (Gen 2:1) everything was made in 6 Days

2. "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." (Gen 2:2)

3. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." (Gen 2:3)


As said earlier; It was the 7th Day Sabbath that

1. God rested from His FINISHED work of creation
2. God rested on this day and Blessed the 7th Day of the creation week
3. God sanctified (set apart) or made the 7th Day of the week a Holy day

Now the questions remain, why did God bless the 7th Day Sabbath, why did he make this day a holy day of rest and set this day apart from all the other days of the week at the end of the creation week?

"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath." (Mark 2:17)

So God's Word tells us that the reason why God made the 7th Day Sabbath is for MAN

"Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." (Mark 2:18)

The very next verse in Mark 2:18 tells us that the 7th Day Sabbath is the "LORD'S DAY" some people claim as Sunday. There is only one Lord's Day and that is the 7th Day Sabbath.

And, like I said earlier, tactics such as these: "Let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when thou art judged. (Rom 3:4)" won't work.
I don't know why you think sharing God's Word is some kind of tactic? It should be everyone's tactic for sharing the truth. We must always believe the Word of God over man made opinions. The scripture above is from God's Word so we must believe God follow what it says. God's Sheep hear His voice.

God bless you my friend
 
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Acts 17: 31; For He [God] has fixed a day in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

The book of Jubilees 4: 29-31. Thereof, Adam died, and all his sons buried him in the land of his creation, and he 30 was the first to be buried in the earth. And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ON THE DAY YE EAT THEREOF YE SHALL DIE.For this reason he 31 did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

Revelation 20: 4; Then I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given the power to judge----------------------They came to life and ruled as kings with Christ for a thousand years, etc.


If Adam died at the age of 930 in the first day of one thousand years, when is the Day of the Lord, the day that he has fixed ,in which He will judge the whole world with justice for a thousand years if not the 7th day of one thousand years from the first day in which Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that day at the age of 930?

The weekly Sabbath is but a shadow of the reality, [The Lord Day] which is the 7th day from the day in which Adam died.







 
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Hallo brother, LoveGod

after i pender i think when Paul Said about sabbath in colossians he talk about saturday and yearly sabbath. Booth call sabbath, resting day and year

and It is just a shadow of Jesus. Seem to me New Testament eliminate all shadow ritual, like sabbath, and animalia sacrifice.

The real has Ben come, replace the shadow. Jesus is love, nwo, shadow replwce by love.o

now, what ever wE do, must base oN love.

Paul say, in chirintians 13. Even If you have a faith taat able to more the mountain, If you do not have love, It Will be useless

I believe It Aldo mean even If you keep sabbath, with love, what that for.

I believe in new testament, the law progress, from shadow to real.
Hi Jackson123,

So nice to see you again my friend. A couple of points. The posts I sent earlier in 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 with all the scriptures from God's Word show that your interpretation of God's Word is not correct. You have not responded to the content and scriptures in these posts at all but just chosen to ignore them. Just saying the same thing over and over does not make something right. For example if you call the sky purple the sky purple the sky purple when it is blue does not make it purple. There has been many scriptures from God's Word presented in those earlier posts above. Why do you ignore them?

God bless you my friend but we need to believe ALL the Word of God not just one verse.

God bless you
 

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Fulfill the Sabbath!

Like Jesus did, he gave us the way!
Colossians 2: 16; The weekly Sabbath is but a shadow of the reality which lays in the future, so let no one make rules about your keeping of the Sabbath and don't allow yourself to be condemned by anyone who claims to be superior etc.

If you don't believe Paul, then do not quote from the words of the chosen apostle of Jesus of Nazareth.
Yet when one follows that the Sabbath or the Law has been removed, they do follow rules made by man.
Now that's great
 

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LoveGodForever [B said:
So in summary;[/B]

Now the key points to keep in mind is that the 7th Day Sabbath was given as a result of a FINISHED WORK of the creation week BEFORE the fall of mankind so it is impossible that Col 2:16 can be referring to something that had already been finished (creation).

On the other hand all those things given to us AFTER the fall of mankind in the Old Covenant, pointing to the plan of salvation from sin and the coming work of Jesus as the Messiah and the Lamb of God, these were all SHADOWS of things to come because it was a work that was NOT FINISHED until the death of Jesus. Well I have lots more to share but will leave it for now.

Hope this helps

God bless
brother LoveGod

I believe in Genesis the Lord inform us that HE finish HIS creation in Six day. In genesis God did not instruct human to rest in sabbath, Indtruction happen after sin, both sabbath day or sabbath year, and Paul informed us that It is only shadow of Jesus. WE do not need do It anymore
 
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brother LoveGod

I believe in Genesis the Lord inform us that HE finish his creation in Six day. In genesis God did not instruct human to rest in sabbath, Indtruction happen after sin, both sabbath day or sabbath year, and Paul informed us that It is only shadow of Jesus. WE do not need do It anymore
Hi Jackson 123,

As mentioned earlier saying the sky is purple the sky is purple the sky is purple when it is blue does not make it purple. You do know that before the Fall (sin) mankind was in harmony with God Law and was sinless right? If God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart from all the other days of the week and made it a Holy day (Gen 2:1-3) who did he do this for? God's Word tells us that the 7th Day Sabbath of the creations week was made for mankind (Mark 2:17).

It was the FINISHED work of the creation week before the fall so cannot refer to SHADOWS of things to come if it had already FINISHED.

Why do you close your eyes to the rest of God's Word in posts 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183? Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Do you not believe God's Word my friend?

God bless you
 

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Hi Jackson 123,

As mentioned earlier saying the sky is purple the sky is purple the sky is purple when it is blue does not make it purple. You do know that before the Fall (sin) mankind was in harmony with God Law and was sinless right? If God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart from all the other days of the week and made it a Holy day (Gen 2:1-3) who did he do this for? God's Word tells us that the 7th Day Sabbath of the creations week was made for mankind (Mark 2:17).

It was the FINISHED work of the creation week before the fall so cannot refer to SHADOWS of things to come if it had already FINISHED.

Why do you close your eyes to the rest of God's Word in posts 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183? Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Do you not believe God's Word my friend?

God bless you
is that mean you believe before sin God instructed human not work oN saturday?

if so can you profide the verse ?
 
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Hi Jackson 123,

As mentioned earlier saying the sky is purple the sky is purple the sky is purple when it is blue does not make it purple. You do know that before the Fall (sin) mankind was in harmony with God Law and was sinless right? If God blessed the 7th Day and set it apart from all the other days of the week and made it a Holy day (Gen 2:1-3) who did he do this for? God's Word tells us that the 7th Day Sabbath of the creations week was made for mankind (Mark 2:17).

It was the FINISHED work of the creation week before the fall so cannot refer to SHADOWS of things to come if it had already FINISHED.

Why do you close your eyes to the rest of God's Word in posts 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183? Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Do you not believe God's Word my friend?

God bless you
LoveGodForever wrote..........It was the FINISHED work of the creation week before the fall so cannot refer to SHADOWS of things to come if it had already FINISHED.

But the weekly Sabbath which is the 'DAY OF THE LORD' can be and is, but a shadow of the great Sabbath of one thousand years, in which there shall be no more wars, and mankind can live in peace during that day that the lord has fixed in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death, as revealed in Acts 17: 31.
 
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is that mean you believe before sin God instructed human not work oN saturday?

if so can you profide the verse ?
Absolutely! There was NO sin before the fall of mankind! Mankind was in harmony with ALL of God's Laws written on their hearts. It was natural for them to obey God until Adam and Eve disobeyed God to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil. At creation before the fall Adam and Eve would of kept God's 7th Day Sabbath because that Sabbath was made for mankind as part of the FINISHED week of creation (Mark 2:17).

Your texts are in Gen 2:1-3 and Mark 2:17 already highlighted.
The Shadows Sabbaths are shown in God's Word in posts 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183 which you have ignored.

Let's look at Gen 2:2 again...

"And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he "rested" on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." (Gen 2:2)

"RESTED" H7673
שׁבת
shâbath
shaw-bath'
A primitive root; to repose, that is, desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causatively, figuratively or specifically): - (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep sabbath, suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away. This is the origin of the root word Sabbath H7676 used in Ex 20:8-11

The is a Holy day God had made, God had blessed and set aside from all the other days of the week for Mankind at the end of the creation week (Gen 2:1-3)

The 7th Day of the creation week was made for mankind so it is God that instructs is to keep it. This is part of the FINISHED work of the creation week.

Tell me all the above is not true?

God bless you
 
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Absolutely! There was NO sin before the fall of mankind! Mankind was in harmony with ALL of God's Laws written on their hearts. It was natural for them to obey God until Adam and Eve disobeyed God to eat of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil. At creation before the fall Adam and Eve would of kept God's 7th Day Sabbath because that Sabbath was made for mankind as part of the FINISHED week of creation (Mark 2:17).

Your texts are in Gen 2:1-3 and Mark 2:17 already highlighted.
The Shadows Sabbaths are shown in God's Word in posts 1157, 1160, 1166, 1168 and 1183 which you have ignored.

Let's look at Gen 2:2 again...

"And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he "rested" on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." (Gen 2:2)

H7673
שׁבת
shâbath
shaw-bath'
A primitive root; to repose, that is, desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causatively, figuratively or specifically): - (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, keep sabbath, suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away. This is the origin of the root word Sabbath H7676 used in Ex 20:8-11

The is a Holy day God had made, God had blessed and set aside from all the other days of the week for Mankind at the end of the creation week (Gen 2:1-3)

The 7th Day of the creation week was made for mankind so it is God that instructs is to keep it. This is part of the FINISHED work of the creation week.

Tell me all the above is not true?

God bless you
Pure fiction - he cannot show you that this was a command to man to observe!