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eternally-gratefull
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There are several members who simply can't see the gigantic, strong and growing root of bitterness that spills into almost every aspect of their lives.
I am not angry, insulted, or hurt by them. I look at them with sadness that they seem to be incapable of experiencing the joy of the Lord, and subsequently NEVER have a loving word. Most I just keep on ignore, pray for them, and from time to time see their posts on others posts and sometimes respond.
Think of how badly they must have been hurt or hurt themselves.
It is the link you gave and directed others to...
I think it would do people good to have their minds stretched a bit about what constitutes demonic activity. People get too comfortable in their little boxes. But I never heard of this guy before. I was just trying to do a kindness for you.
That's because you're so good at it..... you can build them quicker than I can burn them down, LOL!
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Ariel82
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And I thank you Magenta.
It's a guy someone recommended a video previously (on discerning between true and false doctrines)..,i tend to take another step and see what else the person teaches.
I don't think he has a clear understanding of the spiritual realm, but most people don't really want to listen to what I have to say, so it's sinplier to just say nothing.
However if anyone does watch it, I should affirm the following:
Demons are not to be blamed for every bad emotion or experience you have had.,,some is due to sin of others (like cancer is caused by all the man made chemicals that destroy healthy cells) and some your are consequences for your own mistakes and sins.
Demons can not enter a born again believer and control them like robots. Humans are responsible for their actions and words.
Demons DO speak externally and people often,believe it's their thoughts when it's really a demonic whisper...or they distort what others say and what you see so that there is fighting and bickering ..
Folks who ignore the fact we are in a spiritual war will attack the person..instead of stand in prayer and defeat the demons that are lying to both of them and causing the fight.
It's a guy someone recommended a video previously (on discerning between true and false doctrines)..,i tend to take another step and see what else the person teaches.
I don't think he has a clear understanding of the spiritual realm, but most people don't really want to listen to what I have to say, so it's sinplier to just say nothing.
However if anyone does watch it, I should affirm the following:
Demons are not to be blamed for every bad emotion or experience you have had.,,some is due to sin of others (like cancer is caused by all the man made chemicals that destroy healthy cells) and some your are consequences for your own mistakes and sins.
Demons can not enter a born again believer and control them like robots. Humans are responsible for their actions and words.
Demons DO speak externally and people often,believe it's their thoughts when it's really a demonic whisper...or they distort what others say and what you see so that there is fighting and bickering ..
Folks who ignore the fact we are in a spiritual war will attack the person..instead of stand in prayer and defeat the demons that are lying to both of them and causing the fight.
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Ariel82
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These are not demonic activities, These are your own lustful desires that is of the flesh. Demonic activity is demon possession, witchcraft, tarot cards, wiji boards, wizards,and mediums who summons demons. there are others of the sort as well.
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NoNameMcgee
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Now, you've really said something here.
1. The Holy Spirit won't force us. So true. And since the Holy Spirit is God, that means none of the Godhead will force anything on us.
2. But that person has to be a willing participant. Nailed it again! Willing means we have a choice.
You keep talkin' like dat & we can have a convo, lol!
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Ariel82
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NoNameMcgee
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Ariel82
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You are welcome, Ariel. I had the video paying as I prepared to leave for work, but did not really have time to pay much attention to it. I understand very well that spiritual warfare is going on. I have prayed for the people who come against me with their lies and abuse, but that does not stop me from pointing out their lies and abuse. Some will say that only Jesus has a right to judge people because He knows their hearts, but He also judged people because He hated their sin. We can see sin and judge it as such. Some will even say it is the working of the Holy Spirit through the church in the world today that restrains evil. If people were any more evil than they already are... well, suffice to say, it boggles the mind to see the extent and consequence of evil already present. If it were not for my faith in the goodness, mercy, justice, grace, and love of God, I don't know what I would do. He is my fortress and my strength.
Originally Posted by mailmandan
It's not difficult to understand that we do not earn the grace of God through religious acts and that salvation is by grace through faith. That is the point that I was making with the meme that I posted, yet you trampled all over my point and created a straw man argument.
That statement is the epitome of irony.
Straw man argument.
Maybe you are confusing me with yourself.
Another straw man argument. At lest blue_ladybug got it.
I have another word for it..... c r a p
Wow, another good statement! A christian's whole life must be lived by grace thru faith!
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Ariel82
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Yeah and murder is only when you physically kill folks?
We can discuss doctrines without fighting if we are honest with one another and listen and pray more than we speak.
People often find fault in me because I remind them that God teaches us to be gentle and peace loving.
They believe in the lie it is weak and compromising, instead of seeing that it is God's way and pride is the world's way.
If you can't see God's love in another person or give God's love to That person, then why do you bother to speak?
Again Demons don't place desires in people...they find out hidden spiritual strongholds and build them up and draw and tempt us to stubble and fall into sin.
Slander, bickering, lying, falsely misrepresenting what others believe because you believed the lies demons whispered in your ears?
They are all sin. Sins God can cleanse you of.
Sins you need to repent of so that you can become the beautiful Holy Spirit filled people that God means for you to be.
Can you imagine how this forum could change lives if we stopped bickering, discerned when we were being spiritually manipulated, rejected the lies whispered to us and showed God's love for one another?
I have seen it happen. Even in this thread, I saw a time when I felt the Holy Spirit speak from everyone who said anything.
It only lasted a few hours, but it was a blessing to witness and be a part of.
Any way no one wants to talk about group 3. Got to go run errands.
Will keep y'all in my prayers.
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ohhhh ariel
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what are we gonna do with you?
I bet you have no idea that Ariel means Jerusalem...lol
Reminds me of this...and no reflection on you Ariel...
~Mat 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones to death those who have been sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!