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Moses, as the servant of Jehovah, and the Mediator of the First Covenant, could not bring Israel in to the Resurrection Life beyond Jordan. He saw the land, but he could not obtain it, because, as stated, the Law can never inherit the Promise. But, in Christ, he did obtain it, and shall, because of the Cross [Luke 9:28-31]. It is interpreted by Jewish scholars that "by the kiss of the Lord" Moses died in a moment of holiest joy in the knowledge and love of God. At his death Moses eyes was lit and look though he was still alive.
Satan wanted the body of Moses because in the first place, the Devil had power of death until Christ conquered Him on the Cross (Col. 2:14-17; Heb. 2:14-14; Rev. 1:18). This means that whenever the Saints died who lived under the Old Testament system, their soul and spirit at the time did not go to Heaven, but rather down into Paradise, which was actually next door one might say to Hell, separated only by a great gulf (Luke 16:26). But since the Cross, whenever the Saint instantly go to be with the Lord in Heaven.
Satan wanted the body of Moses, which he in some way would have devised as an idol for the children of Israel to worship. They were prone to idolatry anyway. Michael would not allow the Evil One to have his way in this matter, even though at the time, Satan did in fact, have the power of death. The manner in which Michael answered Satan and the Lord as well, showed that they greatly held the upper hand. Superior strength doesn't need to boast or rail!
Satan wanted the body of Moses because in the first place, the Devil had power of death until Christ conquered Him on the Cross (Col. 2:14-17; Heb. 2:14-14; Rev. 1:18). This means that whenever the Saints died who lived under the Old Testament system, their soul and spirit at the time did not go to Heaven, but rather down into Paradise, which was actually next door one might say to Hell, separated only by a great gulf (Luke 16:26). But since the Cross, whenever the Saint instantly go to be with the Lord in Heaven.
Satan wanted the body of Moses, which he in some way would have devised as an idol for the children of Israel to worship. They were prone to idolatry anyway. Michael would not allow the Evil One to have his way in this matter, even though at the time, Satan did in fact, have the power of death. The manner in which Michael answered Satan and the Lord as well, showed that they greatly held the upper hand. Superior strength doesn't need to boast or rail!
Ummmmm I think I will pass on your view....
God told Moses because he did not SANCTIFY HIM in the presence of the people that he would NOT BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE PROMISE LAND...HE WAS TOLD TO SPEAK TO THE ROCK...not stike it....so...I can conclude rightfully that he disobeyed and was punished for his disobedience...called deductive reasoning and it is biblical!
God told Moses because he did not SANCTIFY HIM in the presence of the people that he would NOT BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE PROMISE LAND...HE WAS TOLD TO SPEAK TO THE ROCK...not stike it....so...I can conclude rightfully that he disobeyed and was punished for his disobedience...called deductive reasoning and it is biblical!
i agree. 
and perhaps if the children of Israel had had Moses' body, they would have taken it with them into the promised land.
which the Lord had decreed Moses would not enter?
and perhaps if the children of Israel had had Moses' body, they would have taken it with them into the promised land.
which the Lord had decreed Moses would not enter?
Just goes to show again how God views sin. He would never go back on His word. Moses would not enter Israel, not even his dead body!!
No doubt, today we'd probably be seeing his remains being examined on the smithsonian channel or something
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And that when he died he had no dimness of eye and was as healthy as one can be.....it is not erroneous to believe he was punished for striking the rock in rebellion...Gid was clear with his verbiage...because he had not sanctified God he would NOT BE ALLOWED TO ENTER.....THE BREATH OF EVERY LIVING THING IS IN THE HAND of God and MOSES represented the law...under the law 1 sin = death!
I wasn't aware that God actually killed him as a punishment though. I need to look over the scriptures again as I thought they only confirmed that God buried him, therefore implying he died of natural causes.
I know we shouldn't guess without the scriptures, but maybe Moses' work was done. Just like the fact that I haven't died yet, so God still has plans for me and is keeping me around until He decides to let me die, according to His will. Nothing can kill me in the meantime because God decides when I go.
I know we shouldn't guess without the scriptures, but maybe Moses' work was done. Just like the fact that I haven't died yet, so God still has plans for me and is keeping me around until He decides to let me die, according to His will. Nothing can kill me in the meantime because God decides when I go.
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Moses had a speech impediment, and did not like talking in public. So in the early days Aaron was assigned to him as his spokesman.
When God called Moses and Aaron into the tabernacle at Kadesh, Moses was told to speak to the Rock, not whack it as before. For whatever reason, Moses chose to disobey God, and it was counted against him.
Paul tells us in Hebrews 3 that Moses 'verily was faithful in all his house' ; so this act of disobedience must be viewed outside Levitical (Mosaic) Law.
When God called Moses and Aaron into the tabernacle at Kadesh, Moses was told to speak to the Rock, not whack it as before. For whatever reason, Moses chose to disobey God, and it was counted against him.
Paul tells us in Hebrews 3 that Moses 'verily was faithful in all his house' ; so this act of disobedience must be viewed outside Levitical (Mosaic) Law.
Psalm 106:32-33 They angered him also at the waters of strife, so that it went ill with Moses for their sakes: Because they provoked his spirit, so that he spake unadvisedly with his lips.
Thee account , is found in the book of Psalm Shalom
Thee account , is found in the book of Psalm Shalom
But not sure where the scriptures mention that the physical death was related to the punishment. But as per my other post, it could be that Moses' work was done. And I don't think God would just leave Moses to wander the earth alone either.
Again, just what I think, based on the scriptures.
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man oh man you are hypocritical, ,dcontroversal,first you say God killed Moses,now you say God had Moses' life in his hands and let him die,you even found the scripture saying that he died yet somehow God killed him in your mind,there is quite a difference between God killing someone and letting them die,you would have a point if you were to say that God could've blessed Moses with more time to live,but what happened,happened, to act as if that God smites someone or kills someone everytime that someone dies is folly,it is established in genesis that our normal life span is 120 years,and our life fades in time,the tree of good and evil started our slow death not God, he told man and woman not to eat of it,yet they did,God did punish justly for this but he didn't kill them neither did he Moses nor his son Jesus,dieing happens with or without God putting his hand on anyone,true he knows of each death but whether he acts to save or not a life it can expire nonetheless,yes God buried Moses but once again you will find nowhere in the bible that God killed or even smote Moses,punished yes,smote or killed no,I'm trying to establish with you the total huge difference between dieing and killing,dieing means your life overtime faded away without being killed by anyone,killing means you deliberately took someone's life for a reason or no credible reason,God did not deliberately go and take Moses' life he allowed Moses to see the promised land and deem a new leader,and you know not how long that was,could've been years but certainly not in one day or do you feel that God is neither patient nor compassionate,God basically let Moses live out the remainder of his life before the israelites were to move forward with a new leader to the promised land,quite the opposite of condemning someone to death,true 1 sin in those days would equal death as you say but if God thought so little of Moses to just outright kill him then he would have killed him when he first trespassed,not have him live til his life expired,for what Moses did for God certainly outweighed what he didn't do for God,so really Moses was blessed and punished,true he was not allowed into the promised land,but he lived many years when God could have killed him and chose another leader, that was a blessing and in time he died simple as that,not being killed by anyone!(in case you didn't notice this is my only grievance with what you have said because it can confuse others to think contrary of God,if you were to say God killed the people of Korah,yep I'd agree,if you were to say God killed many Egyptians with plagues,once again I'd agree,but dragging God's name through the mud,saying he killed one of his most beloved servants,Moses,that I shall never agree upon, because I'm aware of many traps and snares before me and shall not fall to them neither shall I allow others to fall to them as A humble and zealous soul whom serves God, I shall stand my ground for God when many come forth to speak against him instead of for him!)
God said no men of that generation over 20 when the Law was given would enter Canaan, except Caleb and Joshua. Therefore Moses' punishment was part of the punishment of all Israel.
Haven't read it for a long while, but the inference is that Moses could have lived another 120 years, as he was in perfect health, but the entry to Canaan was more important at that point.
Haven't read it for a long while, but the inference is that Moses could have lived another 120 years, as he was in perfect health, but the entry to Canaan was more important at that point.
Numbers 32:11-13: "Surely none of the men who came up from Egypt, from twenty years old and above, shall see the land of which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, because they have not wholly followed Me, except Caleb the son of Jephunneh, the Kenizzite, and Joshua the son of Nun, for they have wholly followed the Lord.’ So the Lord’s anger was aroused against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation that had done evil in the sight of the Lord was gone"
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Great point, Ellie. I think you hit the nail on the head. This seems to fit, with all things considered.
Just goes to show again how God views sin. He would never go back on His word. Moses would not enter Israel, not even his dead body!!
No doubt, today we'd probably be seeing his remains being examined on the smithsonian channel or something
Just goes to show again how God views sin. He would never go back on His word. Moses would not enter Israel, not even his dead body!!
No doubt, today we'd probably be seeing his remains being examined on the smithsonian channel or something
lol! right?
but! remember Moses asked God to show him His glory?
so he wasn't allowed to enter the land for his disobedience, and then?
Some eight days after these sayings, He took along Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah (symbolizing the Law and the Prophets, which testify of Christ?), who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Lk 9:29-31)
there's Moses in Israel.
and even better... God's glory seen!
For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)
sorry to go off-piste everyone, but, oh, the kindness and mercy of God. ♥ ♥
lol! right?
but! remember Moses asked God to show him His glory?
so he wasn't allowed to enter the land for his disobedience, and then?
Some eight days after these sayings, He took along Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah (symbolizing the Law and the Prophets, which testify of Christ?), who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Lk 9:29-31)
there's Moses in Israel.
and even better... God's glory seen!
For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)
sorry to go off-piste everyone, but, oh, the kindness and mercy of God. ♥ ♥
but! remember Moses asked God to show him His glory?
so he wasn't allowed to enter the land for his disobedience, and then?
Some eight days after these sayings, He took along Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah (symbolizing the Law and the Prophets, which testify of Christ?), who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Lk 9:29-31)
there's Moses in Israel.
and even better... God's glory seen!
For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)
sorry to go off-piste everyone, but, oh, the kindness and mercy of God. ♥ ♥
Jesus - the new way, fulfillment of the law and prophecies!!
(Matthew 5:17)I'm also reminded of the new wine skins (Matthew 9)
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lol! right?
but! remember Moses asked God to show him His glory?
so he wasn't allowed to enter the land for his disobedience, and then?
Some eight days after these sayings, He took along Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah (symbolizing the Law and the Prophets, which testify of Christ?), who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Lk 9:29-31)
there's Moses in Israel.
and even better... God's glory seen!
For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)
sorry to go off-piste everyone, but, oh, the kindness and mercy of God. ♥ ♥
but! remember Moses asked God to show him His glory?
so he wasn't allowed to enter the land for his disobedience, and then?
Some eight days after these sayings, He took along Peter and John and James, and went up on the mountain to pray. And while He was praying, the appearance of His face became different, and His clothing became white and gleaming. And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah (symbolizing the Law and the Prophets, which testify of Christ?), who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. (Lk 9:29-31)
there's Moses in Israel.
and even better... God's glory seen!
For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. (2 Cor 4:6)
sorry to go off-piste everyone, but, oh, the kindness and mercy of God. ♥ ♥
Moses could not be one of the 2 witnesses, because it would mean he died twice and would be resurrected twice.
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