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Babylon did not fall from grace. It fell as a city falls, through invasion.
BABYLON A.D. gets burnt with fire in a strike from the North from thence that...
1. Comes under the shadow of a cloud
2. With the tempest of a storm
3. Shakes the ground
4. Burns the city with fire
5. Is trucked right up through the middle of the country like a hurricane that comes out of the south and passes through
6. Comes from a coalition represented by an ass and a camel
The NATION itself (Daughter of BABYLON) falls in the same strike which kills all of her young men of war in one hour, followed by an active invasion and everyone found is thrust through with weapons that cause the people to explode into fragments and pieces.......NO ONE comes to HER help for fear of HER torment....note....she is identified by 80 characteristics and called the HINDEROST of the NATIONS the LADY of the KINGDOMS......
I hear what you are saying.
And I have to be honest here what I said to PJ actually applies to us all.
We are right to judge the actions of people that are totally contradictory to the way Jesus has asked us to live.
People may live in such a way as a result of baggage they carry around with them. Stuff that needs healing and given up to God.
Some do so because they have not fully understood what Jesus did on the cross and why and what he suffered for us.
Romans 6:1-2
Chapter 6
Dead to Sin, Alive to God
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
So I say to us all we should never judge the heart of person who loves Jesus and who preaches Jesus, crucified for us all to reconcile us to the Father, for the forgiveness of sins.
And I have to be honest here what I said to PJ actually applies to us all.
We are right to judge the actions of people that are totally contradictory to the way Jesus has asked us to live.
People may live in such a way as a result of baggage they carry around with them. Stuff that needs healing and given up to God.
Some do so because they have not fully understood what Jesus did on the cross and why and what he suffered for us.
Romans 6:1-2
Chapter 6
Dead to Sin, Alive to God
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?
So I say to us all we should never judge the heart of person who loves Jesus and who preaches Jesus, crucified for us all to reconcile us to the Father, for the forgiveness of sins.
Fallen Angel, Morning Star, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon
Fallen Angel Morning Star, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon
By Steven Merten
©Copyright 2009
All biblical quotes are from the New American Bible.
All bolding, color and underlining of scriptural quotes have been added.
Jesus' words are in red. Bible Abbreviations
It is king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon who embodies the great villain position of Satan in the bible. Our image of Satan is developed from the fall of king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon's evil human pride. The 'Babylon has Fallen!', in the Book of Revelations, is relating to the future fall of secular world dominance in preparation for the coming of Messianic Reign. The dynasty of prideful, world dominant, God authorized, secular world powers, passing from one nation to another over time, initiated from king Nebuchadnezzar, falls at our future Battle of Armageddon. The ‘beast’, and ‘whore of Babylon’, which are cast into hell with Satan, in the future apocalypse, begin with king Nebuchadnezzar. To understand where the Satan/Babylon, who falls in the Book of Revelation is coming from, king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon is ground zero. Scripture uses the term “morning star” to describe Jesus (REV 22:16), angels (JOB 38:1), some saints (REV 2:26), and, the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar (ISA 14:12). God uses the title 'morning star' to indicate those He puts into authority to rule over men on earth. As people in the old days were led by the stars, especially ships at sea, so are people led by human, or angelic, leaders on earth. It would be logical to call someone who bears God's authority to lead/rule people on earth a 'morning star'. When Jesus identifies Himself as 'Morning Star', He is telling us that He, offspring of king David, is going to Rule on earth. Morning Star Jesus will replace 'morning star' Nebuchadnezzar, and his world dominant secular power successors who rule over us even today. Upon victory at our future battle of Armageddon, 'morning star', God authorized, secular power, is dethroned on earth and Jesus takes over as 'Morning Star', King and Ruler, of the world.
Fallen Angel Morning Star, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon
By Steven Merten
©Copyright 2009
All biblical quotes are from the New American Bible.
All bolding, color and underlining of scriptural quotes have been added.
Jesus' words are in red. Bible Abbreviations
It is king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon who embodies the great villain position of Satan in the bible. Our image of Satan is developed from the fall of king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon's evil human pride. The 'Babylon has Fallen!', in the Book of Revelations, is relating to the future fall of secular world dominance in preparation for the coming of Messianic Reign. The dynasty of prideful, world dominant, God authorized, secular world powers, passing from one nation to another over time, initiated from king Nebuchadnezzar, falls at our future Battle of Armageddon. The ‘beast’, and ‘whore of Babylon’, which are cast into hell with Satan, in the future apocalypse, begin with king Nebuchadnezzar. To understand where the Satan/Babylon, who falls in the Book of Revelation is coming from, king Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon is ground zero. Scripture uses the term “morning star” to describe Jesus (REV 22:16), angels (JOB 38:1), some saints (REV 2:26), and, the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar (ISA 14:12). God uses the title 'morning star' to indicate those He puts into authority to rule over men on earth. As people in the old days were led by the stars, especially ships at sea, so are people led by human, or angelic, leaders on earth. It would be logical to call someone who bears God's authority to lead/rule people on earth a 'morning star'. When Jesus identifies Himself as 'Morning Star', He is telling us that He, offspring of king David, is going to Rule on earth. Morning Star Jesus will replace 'morning star' Nebuchadnezzar, and his world dominant secular power successors who rule over us even today. Upon victory at our future battle of Armageddon, 'morning star', God authorized, secular power, is dethroned on earth and Jesus takes over as 'Morning Star', King and Ruler, of the world.
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My neighbor is a recluse, runs out of food rather regularly and one day I ran into him and he was off on one of his tangents and he said....You know....I really like the orange mushrooms that grow on the trees.....he paused and said..but they make you see things if you eat too many.......same guy had a couple of cats that I gave him to keep the mice down and for company...after about a month they disappeared...I asked him where they went....His response....WELL STRANGE THING....I CHUNKED ONE OF THEM ON THE FIRE AND IT STARTED SMELLING LIKE IT CAME OUT OF A GOURMET RESTURANT.............have not seen him in about a year and a half......WOW!