I think John is saying if a prophecy, teaching or interpretation of a tongue denies Christ coming
in the flesh it is not of God. Actions are not covered because he was not addressing behaviour
rather the respect you give someone which can be abused.
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I think John is saying if a prophecy, teaching or interpretation of a tongue denies Christ coming
in the flesh it is not of God. Actions are not covered because he was not addressing behaviour
rather the respect you give someone which can be abused.
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
That would make everyone who claims to be saved Saved, I do not think this is true..
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
No one has left. Only a few who got banned, And they did not support the grace position.
Nice try..
Can you help your friend? Can you show proof of people who believe as he claims they do?
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
I would like to think it's that easy, but I know better.
Then all ya have to do is prove it.
The more you refuse to prove it, The more damage you do to yourself.
Yuo can ignore people who disagree with you all you want, It will not help you.. You still have to provide proof..
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
Now that most of the predators have been put on ignore, please..... please somebody who believes in Radical grace/Hyp******e tell me with scripture how do you grow spiritually? Nobody will tell me.
Notice how he now changed the question? Did he think no one would realise??
Implied meaning verses actual meaning
A joke is funny but not real, or a real event is funny because it is true.
A lot of language has implied meaning, like politicians are truthful.
Now we know that is a joke, but I could spell it out.
It is why scripture can be very hard to read, because the wrong implied meaning
creates massive differences.
What I love about this medium is the ability to explore, what is difficult is
those who have no respect for a point or meaning being spelled out and their
only intention is destructive. That demonstrates the spiritual foundations in their
life and what they believe about other individuals.
So I have no doubt about intentions or meanings, but in their scheming they will
always fail, because it is the Lord and His ways that will dominate.
A joke is funny but not real, or a real event is funny because it is true.
A lot of language has implied meaning, like politicians are truthful.
Now we know that is a joke, but I could spell it out.
It is why scripture can be very hard to read, because the wrong implied meaning
creates massive differences.
What I love about this medium is the ability to explore, what is difficult is
those who have no respect for a point or meaning being spelled out and their
only intention is destructive. That demonstrates the spiritual foundations in their
life and what they believe about other individuals.
So I have no doubt about intentions or meanings, but in their scheming they will
always fail, because it is the Lord and His ways that will dominate.
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wsblind
Guest
Refresh my memory? I don't recall anyone who has been on this site that believed in Grace the way these guys are portraying hyper-grace.
They portray it as a sit on your butt, live like hell,do nothing and if they do do something they go to church with a bottle of jack in one hand,a lady of the night under each arm and joint hanging out of their mouth type of faith or hyper-grace.
I have yet to see someone here that says," Yep,that's what grace is and I live like that."
We can post the scriptures of the wonderful grace of God in Christ and ignore the insults and baiting of the others.
The Holy Spirit within those reading the threads will speak to them the truth in their hearts. If we don't interact with the bad behavior of some - then we will not be a part of their strife and division causing.
All is well. Nothing will stop the truth of the love and extravagant grace that our loving Father has for us as shown in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection.
Romans 1:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
No one has, Thats why I have no problem asking him to support his accusation, Because I know he can't.
He has been on a war for months now.. It gets old..
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
odd, You take a passage of scripture, and I make a general observation of the context in which you are trying to use it, And I am all of a sudden judging.
Peter stop. Your so busy trying to attack my character and discredit me, You are making yourself look bad..
I was hopeful at least of some honesty.
I take this reply as a no.
Imagine in a house group a young christian coming up to ask this question?
I would say amen, Christ is moving in you because of the testimony in your life
and words.
So out of the outflow or lack of it, one can judge where people actually are.
But then after being called lots of things and them never being withdrawn what
should I expect.
But then appearing to be one thing while actually not is a commen theme I have
noticed among others, but normally that is playing for appearances and not walking
in the light.
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
1 John 4:12
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FreeNChrist
Guest
Now these two statements are just we know what the Spirit of God testifies to,
and I am praising God for His salvation through Christ.
I made a mistake about believing interaction made sense. Obviously not.
I just Praise God for His work in our lives.
I do not understand this comment, but then when people project so much into
so little, not surprising they come up with evil.
To the pure, all things are pure.
Titus 1:15
If one shares let us love Christ and love one another bearing each other
in grace and truth, and evil is seen, that is sad.
Without content and honesty nothing progresses.
But then that is not the point I suppose.
Normal interaction with a good intention is recognised, and then
responded to in kind. Once this breaks down, communication
is best left alone.
But as for me, it is good to be near God. I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge; I will tell of all your deeds.
Psalm 73:28
But then that is not the point I suppose.
Normal interaction with a good intention is recognised, and then
responded to in kind. Once this breaks down, communication
is best left alone.
But as for me, it is good to be near God. I have made the Sovereign Lord my refuge; I will tell of all your deeds.
Psalm 73:28
That is a misrepresentation of the meaning of the verse. This is talking about when men are speaking in the Spirit.
I repeat FreeNChrist's words, 'sugar coated hostility is not love.' You are good at that.
What is the worst thing you can say to a believer?
Their love is sugar coated hostility.
The idea is they are doing something only with evil intent
but it appears nice.
But this in the end is just slander and malice, no more or less.
I am always surprised at how nothing becomes this odd agression
but based on nothing.
I suppose to make people appear normal caring human beings would
undermine the case they are evil deceivers intent on harm.
Love always hopes, always persevers, never gives up.
Their love is sugar coated hostility.
The idea is they are doing something only with evil intent
but it appears nice.
But this in the end is just slander and malice, no more or less.
I am always surprised at how nothing becomes this odd agression
but based on nothing.
I suppose to make people appear normal caring human beings would
undermine the case they are evil deceivers intent on harm.
Love always hopes, always persevers, never gives up.