Not By Works
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We will always be creations created in our heavenly Father's image. The difference between earth father's and our heavenly Father is our heavenly Father has gave us a book to live by and our means to salvation. If his child doesn't believe and cooperate in a relationship with the father as the father works in him giving him the Spirit to know what he should be doing. He will not force you. And as any good father he will always love his children and this is why he will even have mercy on hell and completely be rid of hell in the new heaven and earth.
Because your only assuming and believe I am saying that my own works is what saves me. That would be ignorant to put myself on the same level as God.
What does teaching on the subject prove that possibly only proves you lead people astray or maybe we are more aligned than you think.
I think you have the puppet theology
What does teaching on the subject prove that possibly only proves you lead people astray or maybe we are more aligned than you think.
I think you have the puppet theology
Christ will enlighten who he enlightens. For who don't understand is not a flaw on them but takes God to open the minds to be able to except the whole food of God.
Do you rely on Christ to make you a paycheck? Or do you rely on Christ to physically move you to help the poor?
Or are you moved to action by a feeling of self sufficiency and care for the needy. Once you are moved with these thoughts and feelings do you by force act on them 100% of the time?
Do you rely on Christ to make you a paycheck? Or do you rely on Christ to physically move you to help the poor?
Or are you moved to action by a feeling of self sufficiency and care for the needy. Once you are moved with these thoughts and feelings do you by force act on them 100% of the time?
Revelation 20:14New International Version (NIV)
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Hell and all who inhabited it won't be forever they will just no longer exist in the new creation God has prepared.
I'm glad saying I believe means your saved forever. Many children say this but by this way of thinking once they grow up and live by the world only saying they are Christian because they go to church every now and then. This way of thinking means they don't have to worry and can keep ignoring the spirit because they are saved. They can deliberately sin all they want even knowing it's wrong.
The key word is exercise. We must exercise our faith everyday because like a muscle it will also grow weak and the Spirit will get harder and harder to hear as we rely on our own ways.
Ephesians 5:18New International Version (NIV)
18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,
14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Hell and all who inhabited it won't be forever they will just no longer exist in the new creation God has prepared.
I'm glad saying I believe means your saved forever. Many children say this but by this way of thinking once they grow up and live by the world only saying they are Christian because they go to church every now and then. This way of thinking means they don't have to worry and can keep ignoring the spirit because they are saved. They can deliberately sin all they want even knowing it's wrong.
The key word is exercise. We must exercise our faith everyday because like a muscle it will also grow weak and the Spirit will get harder and harder to hear as we rely on our own ways.
Ephesians 5:18New International Version (NIV)
18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit,
Hi,
Are you saying that once saved, one can deliberately sin all they want even knowing it is all wrong?
Umm...Is this not an extreme cry against those who believe in OSAS? Do you know someone in
here (OSAS Believers) believes that?
Great! we need to exercise our daily faith to keep it strong but isn't this matter belongs to the saved?
Thanks
Are you saying that once saved, one can deliberately sin all they want even knowing it is all wrong?
Umm...Is this not an extreme cry against those who believe in OSAS? Do you know someone in
here (OSAS Believers) believes that?
Great! we need to exercise our daily faith to keep it strong but isn't this matter belongs to the saved?
Thanks