About I'd say an hour or so ago, I was having an Instagram conversation with one of the Black Hebrew Israelites I made previous posts about, and he made some intriguing points that scared me even more. They started talking about how the white ancestors made the Bible and the teaching of Jesus all about being white, and that everyone is white. They said again that whites are descendants of Esau and are wicked. They said that Christianity is a false teaching of white supremacy, and that Christians are Gentiles that are condemned. There was a lot more scary stuff that I probably forgot. At this point I feel so scared and nervous because I don't know what is right or wrong. what if Jesus comes back and he says Christians were wrong. and we're all thrown into the lake of fire? I just don't know anymore. Someone please help.
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I also want to say that they talked about how instead of Jesus returning and taking his followers to Heaven, he will come back and enslave the white people (descendants of Esau), and then cast them into the lake of fire after the millenium for being so wicked to his chosen people. This also scares me VERY VERY much
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Well your acquaintance is pretty much wrong. Whites are descendants of Japheth son of Noah, blacks are descendants of Ham son of Noah, and Asians are the descendants of Shem son of Noah. Esau was Semitic, with his descendants being Semitic-Hamitic mixes via his wives, some of his wives were daughters of Heth (a Canaanite Hamite) and some of his wives were from Ishmael (Ishmael would be Semitic and Hamitic mixed, Semitic via Abraham and Hamitic via Hagar an Egyptian.)
The races from Japheth, the Europeans, are largely not talked about in the Bible until later on when the Greeks and Romans enter the picture and when Paul went on his missions to spread the Gospel to the pagan whites throughout Europe.
The races from Japheth, the Europeans, are largely not talked about in the Bible until later on when the Greeks and Romans enter the picture and when Paul went on his missions to spread the Gospel to the pagan whites throughout Europe.
My mistake, did not realize at first this to be the Teens section, just saw the post in the recent threads. So I'll leave you all with a thought and let you all work it out yourselves young brothers.
Don't worry too much, the carnal race stuff isn't a big deal thanks to Jesus we are being fused into the branch of Israel. One will note the first converts to Christianity outside of the jews were the black eunuch that met Philipp and the white Europeans that Paul went to.
Don't worry too much, the carnal race stuff isn't a big deal thanks to Jesus we are being fused into the branch of Israel. One will note the first converts to Christianity outside of the jews were the black eunuch that met Philipp and the white Europeans that Paul went to.
Wait what were you going to say? You said you didn't know this was the teens form, so what were you going to say? Please tell me I am confused now. I looked up Japeth and it said, like you said, he was a son of Noah and is the father of Indo-Europeans. So what you said made sense. Now I'm worried again because you were going to say more. Does one have to be an Israelite to be saved? Please respond again I am confused
I have pretty much said as I meant, your friends are wrong that Esau is the forebear of the whites because Esau was Semitic and his descendants were mixed Semitic and Hamitic. I will only respond this once more since you ask it of me, but I would encourage you to talk amongst your generational peers and share your mind and receive theirs on this subject. The subject of race is vast enough to talk about and research it for millennia.
No, you do not have to be an Israelite to be saved, but we are saved by God and through Jesus grafted into Israel.
Here are some verses for you to consider.
Genesis 12:1-3
1 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Romans 11-24-26 (and the whole chapter is good to this point)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
No, you do not have to be an Israelite to be saved, but we are saved by God and through Jesus grafted into Israel.
Here are some verses for you to consider.
Genesis 12:1-3
1 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Romans 11-24-26 (and the whole chapter is good to this point)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Why should you believe this stuff just because someone on the Internet said it?
Christians, for the most part, haven't made Christianity about being white. White Christians had white paintings because those were the faces they were familiar with. If you go to Ethiopia, their paintings had people that looked Ethiopian. But that's not what the Christian faith is all about.
Isaac and Jacob had the same father and mother. Why would one be white and the other black? The Ethiopians are believed to be Cushites, and some other African groups may be. In the Old Testament, it asks if a leopard can change his spots or if a Cushite can change his skin. Apparently, Cushite skin was not the same as the skin of the readers. Blacks stood out because of their skin. This idea that all the 'good guys' in the Bible were black is just a kind of racism. It's kind of like British Israelitism, but a black version of it. It's motivated by ethnic pride, not scripture or good sense.
If some people in the Bible were dark skinned or light skinned, what does it matter? They didn't have our US history of the slave trade and racial tensions based on skin color to deal with. For some of these folks, they see the world through the lens of racial identity and skin color. And that is not the right lens to look at the Bible through. It's anachronistic.
The Bible is not about the white man or the black man, or the white man doing bad things to the black man.
David was ruddy, that is reddish. Some European Jews have red hair, and there is a belief that David had red hair. Some people would say that the red hair was bred in through some intermarriage with Khazars or other groups. I don't know about that, but if that were the case, saying David's hair was red might have been reading some of their own characteristics back into the story.
Christians, for the most part, haven't made Christianity about being white. White Christians had white paintings because those were the faces they were familiar with. If you go to Ethiopia, their paintings had people that looked Ethiopian. But that's not what the Christian faith is all about.
Isaac and Jacob had the same father and mother. Why would one be white and the other black? The Ethiopians are believed to be Cushites, and some other African groups may be. In the Old Testament, it asks if a leopard can change his spots or if a Cushite can change his skin. Apparently, Cushite skin was not the same as the skin of the readers. Blacks stood out because of their skin. This idea that all the 'good guys' in the Bible were black is just a kind of racism. It's kind of like British Israelitism, but a black version of it. It's motivated by ethnic pride, not scripture or good sense.
If some people in the Bible were dark skinned or light skinned, what does it matter? They didn't have our US history of the slave trade and racial tensions based on skin color to deal with. For some of these folks, they see the world through the lens of racial identity and skin color. And that is not the right lens to look at the Bible through. It's anachronistic.
The Bible is not about the white man or the black man, or the white man doing bad things to the black man.
David was ruddy, that is reddish. Some European Jews have red hair, and there is a belief that David had red hair. Some people would say that the red hair was bred in through some intermarriage with Khazars or other groups. I don't know about that, but if that were the case, saying David's hair was red might have been reading some of their own characteristics back into the story.
M
I know some people think this, but there is no evidence for it.
We are all part of the same race - the human race, decesnded from Adam and Eve.
Was is so hard for God in the beginning, to put the entire spectrum of DNA including
different skin colour into two people. Even today we see twins born with different
skin colour.
First identical twins with different skin colour born in the UK | Daily Mail Online
To the OP read these in the bible. I see no mention of skin colour, do you?
Colossians 3:8,10-11 NKJV
[8] But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. [10] and have put on the new man
who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,
[11] where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised,
barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all.
John 3:12-18 NKJV
[12] If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe
if I tell you heavenly things? [13] No one has ascended to heaven but He who came
down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. [14] And as Moses
lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
[15] that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
[16] For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever
believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. [17] For God did not send
His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might
be saved. [18] "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not
believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
When someone tells you something, you need to read the bible to see if it is true
or not. Make sure you compare different bible passages and also read it in
context of the surrounding chapters. This is your best defence against falsehood.
Its a good habbit to get into, to start reading the bible bit by bit.
We are all part of the same race - the human race, decesnded from Adam and Eve.
Was is so hard for God in the beginning, to put the entire spectrum of DNA including
different skin colour into two people. Even today we see twins born with different
skin colour.
First identical twins with different skin colour born in the UK | Daily Mail Online
To the OP read these in the bible. I see no mention of skin colour, do you?
Colossians 3:8,10-11 NKJV
[8] But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice,
blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. [10] and have put on the new man
who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him,
[11] where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised,
barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all.
John 3:12-18 NKJV
[12] If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe
if I tell you heavenly things? [13] No one has ascended to heaven but He who came
down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. [14] And as Moses
lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
[15] that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
[16] For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever
believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. [17] For God did not send
His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might
be saved. [18] "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not
believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only
begotten Son of God.
When someone tells you something, you need to read the bible to see if it is true
or not. Make sure you compare different bible passages and also read it in
context of the surrounding chapters. This is your best defence against falsehood.
Its a good habbit to get into, to start reading the bible bit by bit.
U
John 3:16 answers this.
For God so loved the world (notice it says world, which is All encompassing, not 'everyone but the whites') that He gave His only son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
There are no exceptions based on race, gender, nationality or other man made groups. It says 'the world' meaning ALL humans.
You're talking to hateful people who bend scripture to support their personal views, not people whose views reflect what scripture teaches.
Since you have OCD if you continue to subject yourself to such nonsense you Will continue to be in a state of turmoil over these lies. I have seen how difficult such things are to people with OCD. The more you indulge in listening to hateful beliefs the more you will feed your OCD.
For God so loved the world (notice it says world, which is All encompassing, not 'everyone but the whites') that He gave His only son, that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
There are no exceptions based on race, gender, nationality or other man made groups. It says 'the world' meaning ALL humans.
You're talking to hateful people who bend scripture to support their personal views, not people whose views reflect what scripture teaches.
Since you have OCD if you continue to subject yourself to such nonsense you Will continue to be in a state of turmoil over these lies. I have seen how difficult such things are to people with OCD. The more you indulge in listening to hateful beliefs the more you will feed your OCD.
AlexT2Po
A lot of these sorts of things are easily debunked if you study the Bible. I would suggest you study and memorize scripture. It really helps when you encounter people teaching weird stuff to know that what they are saying does not line up with the Bible.
The idea that descendants of Esau are the white people and that Jesus is coming back to judge people based on their skin color doesn't line up with anything the Bible teaches on the subject.
A lot of these sorts of things are easily debunked if you study the Bible. I would suggest you study and memorize scripture. It really helps when you encounter people teaching weird stuff to know that what they are saying does not line up with the Bible.
The idea that descendants of Esau are the white people and that Jesus is coming back to judge people based on their skin color doesn't line up with anything the Bible teaches on the subject.
Alex, when Samuel was commissioned by God to go to the house of Jesse to anoint a king for Israel, he thought David's brother Eliab was the man God chose. but God had chosen David and said this to Samuel:
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart. (1 Sam 16:7)
outward appearance may matter to humans, but is isn't what matters to God.
please believe the Lord and not these people who are lying to you.
But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart. (1 Sam 16:7)
outward appearance may matter to humans, but is isn't what matters to God.
please believe the Lord and not these people who are lying to you.
I agree with Ugly's response of twisting (and mostly taking out of context) portions of scripture, but regarding race, I'm going to go a little further. I believe skin color and general human shape has everything to do with environment and diet and little to do with much else. I'll even go a little further in saying that changes in human appearance, i.e., skin color lightening or darkening, human skull or bone changes, can and do happen over the course of generations, not thousands of years like we're led to believe. So, imo, any charges of so called "race preference" in most any application are pretty stupid.
Take it easy
People are decedents from middle east... Skin color does not mean much it is just a pigment. Peoples skin color changes and adapts to the level of sun and heat. Originally people in and near the middle east had darker pigments to protect them from the suns rays.. eventually after migration people started having children with people who had darker pigments therefore making lighter pigments.... I do not think you should be afraid that God is not the almighty i think you need to read the bible to seek answers not get them from A friend in the middle east..... NOt saying you can not talk to this friend but if he is trying to throw you off your beliefs he is not much of a friend.. Seek solace in the word of God first not the word of man.
People are decedents from middle east... Skin color does not mean much it is just a pigment. Peoples skin color changes and adapts to the level of sun and heat. Originally people in and near the middle east had darker pigments to protect them from the suns rays.. eventually after migration people started having children with people who had darker pigments therefore making lighter pigments.... I do not think you should be afraid that God is not the almighty i think you need to read the bible to seek answers not get them from A friend in the middle east..... NOt saying you can not talk to this friend but if he is trying to throw you off your beliefs he is not much of a friend.. Seek solace in the word of God first not the word of man.