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GaryA
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No one seems to want to answer my questions in posts #632 and #638...
Try answering my question in post #638.
GPS can be "faked" ( i.e. - it actually operates without satellites ); there is no way possible that [ the issue of my question ] in post #638 can be anything but what it appears to be. It speaks true to reality. No one can escape it.
If you would like to convince me that the Earth is a spinning ball:
"Answer that..."
Just to get a insight into the earth as it is, as photographed from apollo 17
Look at the antartic ice sheet from space
The sun both "rises" and "sets" every day in Flat Earth model, too!
( Albeit, not like most people think. )
So does the moon.
And, the moon gives its own light, not a reflection...
We've been over that in a lot of detail.
The sun does not set if the earth is flat. That's been established, so it's no longer a matter of ignorance: you're lying.
And, the moon gives its own light, not a reflection...
Now sorry, this is plain stupid. The phases of the moon only work because it is
a sphere reflecting sun light with an observation point changing through the moon
cycle on the earth giving the cresent effect.
If the moon was the source of light it would only ever appear as a sphere.
And it is obviously solid and spherical without an atmosphere observable from
earth with telescopes. What a joke!!!!
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renewed_hope
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When I was younger, I could imagine the world is a massive conspiracy, with me
at the centre?
Now I know it is just lots of humans similar to myself living lives similar to myself,
not quite knowing the why, but facing the how every moment of every day.
And most organisations have problems coping, which is why only in the last
100 years have we begun to actually shape the world, and conquer our whole
environment, and potentially unlock even mortality ( the science of aging ).
at the centre?
Now I know it is just lots of humans similar to myself living lives similar to myself,
not quite knowing the why, but facing the how every moment of every day.
And most organisations have problems coping, which is why only in the last
100 years have we begun to actually shape the world, and conquer our whole
environment, and potentially unlock even mortality ( the science of aging ).
People like this probably never expect to run into someone who actually works on satellite systems.
I have flown to Australia 5 times and back.....40 plus thousand feet.....I cannot get over the curvature of the earth......and these satellites that I watch go over every night.......and even the international space station.....!
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GaryA
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I said this to make the point that Flat Earth was not impossible just because the explanation was different about why and how the sun 'appears' ( 'rises' ) and 'disappears' ( 'sets' ) every day.
Yes --- and, enough so - that you should have known that what I said was not meant from a purely scientific point-of-view...
( The ", too!" should have been an easy tip-off...
)In the [ general non-scientific ] sense that I meant it -- YES IT DOES!
In the context of a discussion about Flat Earth versus Ball Earth, the words 'rise' and 'set' ( with regard to the sun ) have broad-enough definitions - mostly because we have all been using the words 'rise' and 'set' all of our lives when talking about the "coming" and "going" of the sun - to enable people to use the words constructively without creating / having 'semantics' issues.
You are just "playing with words" in order to try to give them 'narrow' definitions that you hope will only make sense in a Ball Earth context.
You are deliberately causing totally unnecessary confusion.
You are being a TROLL!
What has been established is that you are being a jerk. My respect for you is dropping by-the-post...
You will help your reputation if you will stop making the insults, insinuations, accusations, etc. -- and start answering the 'tough' questions...
Try answering this one...
Now --- would you like to discuss the topic like a mature adult physicist? Are you willing to keep your attitude in check? Are you willing to "stick to the facts" without 'mudslinging' your way through the discussion?
It sure would help make for a better discussion of the topic if you did...
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GaryA
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This is a much better way of addressing an idea put forth -- without trying to belittle the one who has put it forth.
posthuman -- "take a lesson" from PeterJens...
He is saying that the idea is stupid ( or, that it is not making any sense to him ); he did not call me stupid.
He did not call me a liar; he knows that I am simply expressing my point-of-view.
He expressed his point of view without actually attacking anyone...
He is discussing the topic - presenting the 'facts' as he sees them.
Are you getting the proper picture yet?
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GaryA
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GaryA
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This is not the way it works, and you know it!
The Flat Earth answer?
PERSPECTIVE
And, you know it!
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GaryA
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He will be even more surprised to find out that NASA has gone to great lengths to deceive even [ most of ] the people in its own organization - who believe that their work is real ( in the sense of "primary goal accomplishment"; i.e. - putting the rover on mars, for example ).
Does your cousin have [ personal ] incontrovertible proof of the existance of any satellites in space -- or, is it even remotely possible that what his work "sees" as "proof" can actually be 'faked' for his 'benefit'...?
Imagine that some people define life by their feeling of paranoia.
They back fill with whatever seems to fit.
Now nothing will change the feeling so nothing is true that opposes
the argument, because there is always an impossible next layer which will
show everything is delusion, if we can find it, because it is there. lol
This is where mental illness becomes real, and these guys can go to the funny farm.
They back fill with whatever seems to fit.
Now nothing will change the feeling so nothing is true that opposes
the argument, because there is always an impossible next layer which will
show everything is delusion, if we can find it, because it is there. lol
This is where mental illness becomes real, and these guys can go to the funny farm.
