sad panda time...

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Willie-T said:
Not carefully reading what I said, you went and typed out a nice long post about why you don't go to church.... and I didn't say a word about church. I suggested encouraging them to connect with, and become involved with, local Christians.

I hardly ever encourage someone jump to go to church.... unless they are specifically looking for a church. But, yes, I do believe everyone should be involved, personally, and IRL, with a group of Christians.
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Ohhhh, okay then, because location of said-Christians changes everything. (Does it matter whether it's a building or a diner if you don't have the ability to meet long enough?)
 
JustWhoIAm said:
The church has seriously hurt a lot of people and caused them to abandon the idea of a loving God.

It's not God's fault, it's the fault of the people who failed in their responsibilities to him and to those they should be serving.

Fact remains, the church abuses its authority a lot of times. I've experienced it, and if it wasn't for the fact that God sent his spirit to me repeatedly to call me to him many times in some powerful and undeniable ways, I would most likely have abandoned faith for the way I was treated.

cavil is probably right. Those who claim to be of the church but aren't dedicated to service have committed many, many atrocities throughout history.
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The fault is in us. God is the answer to that fault, despite us.

John 3:16-21 (ESV)

16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

And yet, once he chooses us we are still supposed to love him fully and others as ourselves.
 
maxwel said:
Ricky,

I would never claim all christians, or all churches, have done a great job of spreading the light of the gospel.

I would never deny that overall, the state of Christ's church (at least here in the West) seems to be a mess.

Nonetheless, it is a clear, biblical fact, that men all receive revelation of God, through conscience and nature, and they WILLFULLY CHOOSE to reject God.


I didn't make this up.
It's right in the bible.

An atheist, even once he hardens his own conscience, still receives "general revelation" from God every moment of every day of his life... just from seeing creation.

An atheist is, quite literally, rejecting revelation from God every moment of every day.
The atheist is responsible for his rejection of God.
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Uhm, your quote was from JustWhoIAm but addressed to me

But when you're right you're right :)
 
maxwel said:
I feel there is a huge shortage of missionaries to strippers.

Ricky has motivated me to get out there and really help them to remove the garments of their iniquity.
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Actually, without getting into the details of how it came about, I spent time with a stripper a few years back (all we did was talk). I prayed for her for some time after that. Lo and behold, I came across her facebook page recently and saw that she had given her life to Christ!

God does indeed work in mysterious ways!
 
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RickyZ said:
Actually, without getting into the details of how it came about, I spent time with a stripper a few years back (all we did was talk). I prayed for her for some time after that. Lo and behold, I came across her facebook page recently and saw that she had given her life to Christ!

God does indeed work in mysterious ways!
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I was just teasing you because it sounded so funny.


I'm so naive that when I was younger I once dated a stripper and didn't even know it.
She just told me she was a "dancer."
I remember thinking, "She's so tall and pretty, she must be one of those ballerinas."

: )
 
Folks come on here to get help because:
They don't have a clue what "church" to go to.
They're ashamed & embarrassed to go face to face with a "live" person.
To keep their identity hidden, knowing people "talk".
These are just a few that I thought of.
 
Blue Ladybug- I shared your orange tabbies by line with a dear cat loving friend and she was very appreciative!
Thank you! Bless you!
 
I have cure for the sad panda.... here's an adorable video of all his little cousins.. :)

[video=youtube;msY--EwxSgg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msY--EwxSgg[/video]
 
If this video does not move you then your heart is more cold than Neptune
[video=youtube;nDyu-z8q7ko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDyu-z8q7ko[/video]
 
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