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I helped someone navigate that mess. They ended up with a Blue Shield PPO plan. The plans we looked at on the marketplace were identical to the ones offered off the marketplace, in both cost and benefits. The only difference is marketplace plans offered subsidies. And no, even then it's not affordable.
Honstly,I only heard these things,BTW on CNN.
Thats what's scary about Trump,he makes biased decisions sometimes and his followers encourageor cover for him blindly.I don't think that thats In his best Interest and certianly doesn't give America a look of strength.
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He Is overlooking the Intelligence Information given about Russia Interfering Into our election personally Instead of having confidence In our Intelligence,and reacting appropriately,I think Putin Is wondering how to use Donald against the United States.
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He Is overlooking the Intelligence Information given about Russia Interfering Into our election personally Instead of having confidence In our Intelligence,and reacting appropriately,I think Putin Is wondering how to use Donald against the United States.
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Intelligence is our antenna. We should analyze the intelligence investigations, but not dismiss the conclusions automatically. The problem with the latest report is that the public don't get to see the evidences. The evidences should have been, at least to some extent, made public.
The US problem is two dysfunctional presidents in a row (four, if you add Bill Clinton and George H. Bush) which has made certain countries stronger.
The US problem is two dysfunctional presidents in a row (four, if you add Bill Clinton and George H. Bush) which has made certain countries stronger.
1. "he makes biased decisions sometimes..."
Of course he makes biased decisions; as a Republican he is expected to make decisions which are biased in favor of his constituency who voted for him.
No one can give equal support to antithetical policies.
It is his job to be biased in favor of certain types of policies.
If you don't like him, or don't like his policies, that's fine.
But saying he's biased is a bit like buying blue jeans and then being upset because they're blue.
We elect ALL politicians to be biased in favor of certain policies or agendas.
2. "his followers encourage or cover for him blindly."
A. I can't deny that this happens, at times, with ALL politicians.
I think that happens with ALL politicians, and ALL public figures, even Kim Kardashian.
There will always be SOME people who follow blindly.
B. However, I do think you made a really wide blanket statement that is neither accurate nor fair.
Any president's constituency is a made up of MILLIONS of individuals, who each act according to their own paradigms and values, and we all know they aren't all identical... constituents aren't robots.
I can't say "all Clinton supporters" do this or that, or "all Obama supporters" do this or that.
It isn't tenable to paint everyone with such a broad brush.
It isn't accurate or fair; it isn't logical or rational; and it certainly isn't provable, because it's an irrational proposition.
C. This statement about his followers "covering for him blindly" also PRESUMES GUILT on his part, for which his followers need to cover.
When you say his followers have to cover for him, you are presuming there is something they NEED to cover... you are PRESUMING GUILT.
I think this presumption of guilt, every time the media says ANYTHING NEGATIVE, really needs to be re-examined.
Each individual issue needs to be assessed independently, and thoroughly, and IF there is guilt, then there is guilt.
But to presume guilt every time the media says anything negative, is really silly.
I could just as easily accuse his detractors of "covering for their side blindly."
Please consider one more thing: to defend or support someone is not the same as "covering blindly" if the ACCUSATION AGAINST THEM IS FALSE.
- Many accusations, in the PAST, have been leveled against Trump, which were later proven false.
- Therefore, it would be unwise to assume that every accusation in the FUTURE will necessarily be true.
* The left accuses the right of blindly assuming everything Trump does is GOOD... all the while the left is blindly assuming everything Trump does is bad!
* I would prefer we relax a bit, and wait for data and evidence to roll in.
3. "He Is overlooking the Intelligence Information given about Russia Interfering Into our election..."
Have you read the full report that was just released?
I did.
A. I didn't see a single point that wasn't full of holes.
B. I didn't see a single bit of provable data regarding anything actually significant.
C. I saw a lot of bluster about unimportant things everyone already knows, and a lot of accusations and assertions without including any proof or evidence.
D. I didn't see anything significant that would hold up in court, or even in a debate, for more than 5 seconds.
There just wasn't any evidence to support any of their statements.
It was pages and pages of accusations and assertions, with no actual proof.
And a document with NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE is what we're going to stand on in order to smear the President Elect?
Seriously?
4. "...Instead of having confidence In our Intelligence,and reacting appropriately,"
Lets not forget that 16 intelligence agencies signed a report claiming there were WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION in Iraq... and it was later PROVEN TO BE FALSE, and it was proven that everyone KNEW it was false.
There's really nothing else to say.
Anyone who is not at least "moderately skeptical" of our intelligence agencies, is a complete and utter moron.
5. "I think Putin Is wondering how to use Donald against the United States."
I think, that what you think, about what Putin thinks... is a bit beyond your purview.
A. You have no way to know what Putin is really thinking about anything.
Unless you're psychic.
Maybe you're psychic.
B. ALL world leaders, ALL of them, including our allies, have their own agendas, and are ultimately looking out for their own countries, and not ours.
This isn't news.
This is what ALL countries do, even our allies.
All world leaders are looking out for their own countries, and whatever is best for THEM.
Everyone knows this, including Trump.
This isn't news.
C. Although we know Putin is ultimately looking out for his own best interests (like all world leaders, even our allies) we can't assume this means everything which is "in his best interest" is somehow going to harm us.
- Putin's own best interests might be to hep the U.S. fight terrorism.
- Putin's own best interests might be to become an ally of the U.S. to thwart some of the overreach of the U.N.
- Putin's own best interests might be to develop better trade relations with the U.S. so both countries can become more prosperous.
- Putin's own best interests might be to "give in" on some international issues, just to stay out of war, and gain a trading partner.
I'm sure he'll act in his own best interests... but his own best interests undoubtedly cover a very wide range.
It would be silly to think you can read his mind, or that all of his own best interests are necessarily antithetical to ours.
D. Trump, as a businessman, will WANT to negotiate with people who have strong self interests... that's actually necessary in order to get anything done.
- If you don't understand this point, I'm not going to explain it here.
- It's a basic factor in negotiations... very rudimentary psychology.
Conclusion:
I'm all for going after ANYONE, when there is actual evidence.
Accusations don't equal evidence.
I'm glad you made sure to leave that last line because Its so easy for them to deflect when a statement made leaves them speechless they like to deflect to President Obama or Hillary Clinton but In a couple of weeks deflection will look totally desperate when they look around and realize,Donald Trump Is the one to blame now.
I'm no fan of Democrats either. BOTH parties are equally responsible for the mess this country is in. Which is why the time is past due to throw them BOTH out.
There's success, then there's greed. Let's review what God said about the greedy:
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Timothy 3:3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money.
Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Luke 16: No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth
Matthew 4:9-10 and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"
James 4:4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
Matthew 13:22 And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Mark 4:19 but the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Luke 8:14 The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity.
Matthew 19:21-22Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.
Mark 10:21-22 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But at these words he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.
Luke 18:22-23 When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when he had heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich.
1 Timothy 6:17 Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.
Job 31:24-28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; If I have looked at the sun when it shone or the moon going in splendor, And my heart became secretly enticed, And my hand threw a kiss from my mouth, That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.
Psalm 52:6-7 The righteous will see and fear, And will laugh at him, saying, "Behold, the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."
Proverbs 11:28 He who trusts in his riches will fall, But the righteous will flourish like the green leaf.
Jeremiah 49:4 How boastful you are about the valleys! Your valley is flowing away, O backsliding daughter who trusts in her treasures, saying, 'Who will come against me?'
Ezekiel 28:5 By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches And your heart is lifted up because of your riches
Psalm 62:10 Do not trust in oppression and do not vainly hope in robbery; If riches increase, do not set your heart upon them.
Proverbs 18:23 The poor man utters supplications, But the rich man answers roughly.
Proverbs 28:11 The rich man is wise in his own eyes, But the poor who has understanding sees through him.
Job 20:17-20 He does not look at the streams, The rivers flowing with honey and curds. He returns what he has attained And cannot swallow it; As to the riches of his trading, He cannot even enjoy them. For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized a house which he has not built. Because he knew no quiet within him, He does not retain anything he desires.
Proverbs 15:6 Great wealth is in the house of the righteous, But trouble is in the income of the wicked.
Proverbs 30:8-9 Keep deception and lies far from me, give me neither poverty nor riches; Feed me with the food that is my portion, That I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal, And profane the name of my God.
Deuteronomy 32:15 Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior.
Nehemiah 9:25-26 They captured fortified cities and a fertile land They took possession of houses full of every good thing, Hewn cisterns, vineyards, olive groves, Fruit trees in abundance So they ate, were filled and grew fat, And reveled in Your great goodness. "But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.
Hosea 13:6 As they had their pasture, they became satisfied, And being satisfied, their heart became proud; Therefore they forgot Me.
Proverbs 23:4 Do not weary yourself to gain wealth, Cease from your consideration of it.
Haggai 1:3-5 Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, "Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?" Now therefore, thus says the LORD of hosts, "Consider your ways!
Luke 16:19-21 Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores … 25 But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony
1 Timothy 6:8-9 If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.
Leviticus 19:13 You shall not oppress your neighbor, nor rob him. The wages of a hired man are not to remain with you all night until morning.
Deuteronomy 24:12-15 If he is a poor man, you shall not sleep with his pledge. When the sun goes down you shall surely return the pledge to him, that he may sleep in his cloak and bless you; and it will be righteousness for you before the LORD your God. You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.
Proverbs 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to make more for himself or who gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.
Isaiah 1:23 Your rulers are rebels And companions of thieves; Everyone loves a bribe And chases after rewards. They do not defend the orphan, Nor does the widow's plea come before them.
Jeremiah 22:13 Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor's services without pay And does not give him his wages,
Micah 6:12 For the rich men of the city are full of violence, Her residents speak lies, And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.
Malachi 3:5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
James 2:6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court?
James 5:4 Behold, the pay off the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabbath.
Job 31:24, 25, 28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; ... That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.
Psalm 52:7 Behold,the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."
Proverbs 18:11 A rich man’s wealth is his strong city, And like a high wall in his own imagination.
Luke 12:20 "But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?'
James 5: 1Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[SUP]a[/SUP] 6You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
There's success, then there's greed. Let's review what God said about the greedy:
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
1 Timothy 3:3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money.
Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
Luke 16: No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth
Matthew 4:9-10 and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"
James 4:4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
Matthew 13:22 And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Mark 4:19 but the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Luke 8:14 The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity.
Matthew 19:21-22Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.
Mark 10:21-22 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But at these words he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.
Luke 18:22-23 When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when he had heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich.
1 Timothy 6:17 Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.
Job 31:24-28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; If I have looked at the sun when it shone or the moon going in splendor, And my heart became secretly enticed, And my hand threw a kiss from my mouth, That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.
Psalm 52:6-7 The righteous will see and fear, And will laugh at him, saying, "Behold, the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."
Proverbs 11:28 He who trusts in his riches will fall, But the righteous will flourish like the green leaf.
Jeremiah 49:4 How boastful you are about the valleys! Your valley is flowing away, O backsliding daughter who trusts in her treasures, saying, 'Who will come against me?'
Ezekiel 28:5 By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches And your heart is lifted up because of your riches
Psalm 62:10 Do not trust in oppression and do not vainly hope in robbery; If riches increase, do not set your heart upon them.
Proverbs 18:23 The poor man utters supplications, But the rich man answers roughly.
Proverbs 28:11 The rich man is wise in his own eyes, But the poor who has understanding sees through him.
Job 20:17-20 He does not look at the streams, The rivers flowing with honey and curds. He returns what he has attained And cannot swallow it; As to the riches of his trading, He cannot even enjoy them. For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized a house which he has not built. Because he knew no quiet within him, He does not retain anything he desires.
Proverbs 15:6 Great wealth is in the house of the righteous, But trouble is in the income of the wicked.
Proverbs 30:8-9 Keep deception and lies far from me, give me neither poverty nor riches; Feed me with the food that is my portion, That I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal, And profane the name of my God.
Deuteronomy 32:15 Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior.
Nehemiah 9:25-26 They captured fortified cities and a fertile land They took possession of houses full of every good thing, Hewn cisterns, vineyards, olive groves, Fruit trees in abundance So they ate, were filled and grew fat, And reveled in Your great goodness. "But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.
Hosea 13:6 As they had their pasture, they became satisfied, And being satisfied, their heart became proud; Therefore they forgot Me.
Proverbs 23:4 Do not weary yourself to gain wealth, Cease from your consideration of it.
Haggai 1:3-5 Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, "Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?" Now therefore, thus says the LORD of hosts, "Consider your ways!
Luke 16:19-21 Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores … 25 But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony
1 Timothy 6:8-9 If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.
Leviticus 19:13 You shall not oppress your neighbor, nor rob him. The wages of a hired man are not to remain with you all night until morning.
Deuteronomy 24:12-15 If he is a poor man, you shall not sleep with his pledge. When the sun goes down you shall surely return the pledge to him, that he may sleep in his cloak and bless you; and it will be righteousness for you before the LORD your God. You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.
Proverbs 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to make more for himself or who gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.
Isaiah 1:23 Your rulers are rebels And companions of thieves; Everyone loves a bribe And chases after rewards. They do not defend the orphan, Nor does the widow's plea come before them.
Jeremiah 22:13 Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor's services without pay And does not give him his wages,
Micah 6:12 For the rich men of the city are full of violence, Her residents speak lies, And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.
Malachi 3:5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.
James 2:6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court?
James 5:4 Behold, the pay off the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabbath.
Job 31:24, 25, 28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; ... That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.
Psalm 52:7 Behold,the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."
Proverbs 18:11 A rich man’s wealth is his strong city, And like a high wall in his own imagination.
Luke 12:20 "But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?'
James 5: 1Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[SUP]a[/SUP] 6You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.
Shame on that Trump cabinet..... all those millionaires and billionaires giving up their collecting of money to work for chicken-feed for four years... to labor unappreciated, disrespected, ridiculed, and thwarted at every turn in a lousy government job where they have to beg for everyone else's approval for anything they want to do.
They are just SO greedy.
They are just SO greedy.
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