Christians are obligated to vote for Mr. Trump on Election Day. There is NO excuse.

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Elizabeth619 said:
The fact that Christians have the ability to vote it would be much worse to stay silent and not vote. Christians have a voice and we ar expected to stand up against evil. Even if that means voting.
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I'm not saying we should stay silent but that we shouldn't be obligated to vote for someone because they told me too. I'm voting for who I feel is the best candidate. But I understand Christians have a voice and it's recommended that we do. Just don't like the "you're a Christian, therefore vote for Trump". Like I said, not a Hillary supporter
 
Desdichado said:
Guns are fun to take to the range! The sound! The smell!
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I've been a gun owner for years. Just never got a permit. Always kept it locked up. I figured it was time to get a permit though. Been meaning to. Just never got around to it.
 
Elizabeth619 said:
Hobby? What are you talking about?
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If you do not enjoy getting comfortable with becoming good ( and STAYING good) with your weapon, there is a good chance someone will just take it away from you one day, years from now, when you try to get it out and use it, and shoot YOU with it..
 
Tommy379 said:
The ones that actually tote the guns. Never see them doing anything wrong.
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But the wonderful biased media doesn't show it like that. There's not a day that goes by that I'm not in the presence of someone armed. I've never been scared of them
 
Willie-T said:
If you do not enjoy getting comfortable with becoming good ( and STAYING good) with your weapon, there is a good chance someone will just take it away from you one day, years from now, when you try to get it out and use it, and shoot YOU with it..
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Agreed. The good thing about living in the south is a lot of shooting places in the boondocks.
 
Elizabeth619 said:
But the wonderful biased media doesn't show it like that. There's not a day that goes by that I'm not in the presence of someone armed. I've never been scared of them
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Same. My state is Constitutional open carry. It's awesome.
 
Willie-T said:
That would be a hard one to answer until faced with it. But, I know that if I cannot simply do a minor thing like casting a vote for a man God seems to want.... then I sure doubt I could stand and face anything REALLY serious.
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I hear you willie, I am voting as well.....I asked that because American Christians seem to think we are immune from persecutions coming down and if I vote my religious liberty will be secured....Sorry brother, but that is naive and silly.....

I also have to keep my flesh in check with those Public Christians on TV, who pound their fists for us to vote, yet still gotta keep their ole 501 3C tax exemptions going...The Church of the USA gave away any kind of religious freedoms and liberties when they demanded to be given tax exempt status[5013c] and agreed to have those ordained file with local/state governments to be able to perform weddings, funeral, etc...


In the next few years we are going to see who really is for Jesus and who is not in the good ole USofA....I don't care who gets elected next weeek...I see the 5013c for ministries and churhces getting taken away in the next 3-4 years, if not sooner....

It will go down like this....You wont marry a same sex couple....you don't get the 5013c any more...

The USA Church is not immune for whats coming down.....and many are gonna fold like a bed sheet, when the real persecution comes....the government and any form of it are not a Christians friend and never have been....the Bible proves this...
 
Desdichado said:
Said every country who has contemplated invading us ever.
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Yeah 9-11 proved your thought so well....

I live in a very rural area and every small little country church is full of the Godly saints armed tot eh the teeth...listen at the Sunday picnics about how the bad guys can have their weapons when they pry them from their dead cold hands......I'll shoot em all up if they come on my land, they say....A drone the size of a Frisbee flies over the house of those identified as problem children...it is fitted with a vial of synthetic simtex explosive, goes down the chimney or hits the front door and reduces the problem to an ash heap....

We are never going to be "invaded"....we have been "infiltrated" for decades....the sleepers in this country are just waiting.....here is the thing, its not terrorist orgs, or the Russians,etc...it is the foot army of the Oligarchy that is forming the rise of the Beast....and the 10 kingdoms...

The collapse of the USA would happen without a weapon being fired...it will be economic first....resistance will be futile...yeah you may squeeze of fa few shots before the drones take you out....you wont be able to hide....they will find you...

The Red Dawn scenario is great movies but not in real life....the tech they have will end you and your little band of merry men before you could even pull the trigger...

We have drones now the size of humming birds that can be fitted with a bio-warfare bug that could take out counties/city blocks at a time....

oh and never ever underestimate the power that selfishness, greed, fear, hopelessness, despair, starvation have on the human psyche.....

Not to mention those with nothing to lose and everything to gain and have no conscience....
 
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Willie-T said:
If you do not enjoy getting comfortable with becoming good ( and STAYING good) with your weapon, there is a good chance someone will just take it away from you one day, years from now, when you try to get it out and use it, and shoot YOU with it..
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I taught my wife and daughter to shoot through their purses....
 
cantonbears4 said:
Hello everyone and thank you for taking the time to read this thread. There are many in the body of Christ who are confirming that The Lord has raised up Donald Trump as a Cyrus figure in order to lead our nation. Is Mr. Trump perfect? No, but Jesus isn't on the ballot and the alternative is far, far worse. Brothers and sisters, we must vote for Donald Trump.

I personally had a dream where The Lord shouted, "VOTE!" and showed me the consequences if Mrs. Clinton gets into office. The body of Christ needs to do her part and vote for the candidate that will promote a climate of liberty for the spreading of the Gospel and a Supreme Court that will uphold righteousness. To stay home would be to sit idly by and vicariously endorse a Supreme Court that will lead generations of children astray in a spiritually blind climate and ensure they grow up in a country that is only a shadow of what it once was. That is reprehensible.

Mr. Trump's moral lapses are not an excuse to deny his candidacy. Those who show mercy shall obtain mercy and for anyone who says they love The Lord, they will yield to His plans and purposes for this nation. His plan is the election of Donald Trump, someone who will surround himself with evangelical leaders and continue to refine his character.

Please, there is no excuse to stay home. Absolutely none. Had evangelicals voted for Mr. Romney instead of staying home because he was a Mormon, he would be president today. What was the alternative to Mr. Romney? What is the alternative to Mr. Trump? To make the same mistake in 2016 as the body of Christ made in 2012 would be negligence at its worst. Do you want to stand before The Lord one day and have to give an account for as to why you sat complacent?

A Christian who stays home is by default voting for Mrs. Clinton and her far left vision for America. There is no excuse. The body of Christ needs to put aside religious pride and a puffed up, judgmental flesh in order to vote for the candidate that The Lord can work with in order to preserve what is left of this country.

Thank you for reading. Now, I say to you what The Lord said to me in my dream: VOTE!!
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You make an assumption, young man.
Just because you believe that God would have us to vote for Trump does not make it so.
You have a right to vote for him if you wish, but to say that as a Christian I MUST vote for him is foolishness.
I do not want Clinton to be president, but I can not vote for Trump. I see him as being just as evil and unqualified as Clinton.
I have spent much time in prayer about this and have decided to just sit this election out and let God's will be done.
You may disagree with my heart felt decision, but you do not have the right to condemn nor judge my decision.
 
It is a Christians duty to vote. Our heavenly Father has set all things pertaining to this world age into motion from the beginning and has revealed unto His children in Christ in this last generation (the fig tree) the nature of this worlds course leading up to the coming of the antichrist. It is written that we (Gods children) are to pray over our homes, our families, our communities, and our nation. We are also to pray for those who are in authority over us and participate in the process of law and government to insure that righteousness prevails in our lives. Voting is only one process (tool) that the Lord has supplied for His brethren to use is caring out His desire upon the United States and any country that has a democracy where participation in the governing body is allowed.


Christians are to be disciplined in these matters and submit to the rule of law pertaining to them. Not unruly and forceful as to allow the flesh to gain advantage and spoil us.


Christians are to be taught and informed in the governing affairs of their providence and take whatever lawful participation necessary to insure the course of righteousness is maintained.


They should weigh the profile of the candidate running for a lawful office by the standards of the sound word of the Lord and judge their decision in their voting accordingly.


Remember, there is none righteous, no not one, so don't expect the candidates you are considering to be perfect people, but look at them objectively and trust in that which is right and good.

It is your right to vote in the USA if you are a citizen, and it is your Christian duty, but for who you vote is between you and the Lord and nobody else's business.

God Bless


JTF
 
This is the second thread in which a new user has told me I am obligated to vote for trump, I am obligated to nothing.
Either way trump is gonna win
 
cantonbears4 said:
But the laws of a nation determine the amount of freedom the people have and the level of persecution Christians will or will not face for spreading the Gospel. God can give His people the grace to go underground at some point and the boldness to speak up in the face of legal consequences, but is that the climate you want Him to move in when it can be prevented or delayed by your vote? Because at some point, the country will head in that direction if we keep voting in the direction the nation is voting. God can play a role in strengthening His people in persecution or moving the heart of a king, but we have our part to play, too. To sit back would be to allow a climate that is increasingly hostile towards Christians, and He can't fix that away with a magic wand.
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I think you might have typo'd your age, that's a lot of wisdom for 24. Please thank your parents for me.
 
If you will study Matt 24, Mar 13, and Luk 21, you will find that the Lord stated in these last days, Christians will be persecuted for His name sake, so don't allow the events happening in the USA and around the world against Christians to trouble you.

It is the will of the Lord that the nature of this world age (the people) go as He has prophesied it will and usher in the time of antichrist.

I believe (this is my personal belief) that which we have been witnessing over the last election period is the 1st beast of Revelation starting to rise out of the sea (peoples, nations).

The Lord stated that these things need be, so hold to your peace and watch as we have been instructed to do or the True LORD come and catch you asleep.

We must eventually go into a one world system of government that all people will abide under which I believe will also cause a uniformed system of religion that all nations will adopt and submit too.

This in my humble opinion will allow the door to open for the antichrist (Satan) to enter and subdue the nations.

When and how this will take place isn't exact, and just how the USA and other Christian nations are affected and enter into this pact are not so clear and this is why the Lord commanded that we study and learn to remain vigilant during these times and know the season of His coming and be aware of its approach.

No, we cannot know the "Hour", but the time and the season is given to those who study His word and look for His coming.

God Bless


JTF
 
justthefacts said:
It is a Christians duty to vote. Our heavenly Father has set all things pertaining to this world age into motion from the beginning and has revealed unto His children in Christ in this last generation (the fig tree) the nature of this worlds course leading up to the coming of the antichrist. It is written that we (Gods children) are to pray over our homes, our families, our communities, and our nation. We are also to pray for those who are in authority over us and participate in the process of law and government to insure that righteousness prevails in our lives. Voting is only one process (tool) that the Lord has supplied for His brethren to use is caring out His desire upon the United States and any country that has a democracy where participation in the governing body is allowed.


Christians are to be disciplined in these matters and submit to the rule of law pertaining to them. Not unruly and forceful as to allow the flesh to gain advantage and spoil us.


Christians are to be taught and informed in the governing affairs of their providence and take whatever lawful participation necessary to insure the course of righteousness is maintained.


They should weigh the profile of the candidate running for a lawful office by the standards of the sound word of the Lord and judge their decision in their voting accordingly.


Remember, there is none righteous, no not one, so don't expect the candidates you are considering to be perfect people, but look at them objectively and trust in that which is right and good.

It is your right to vote in the USA if you are a citizen, and it is your Christian duty, but for who you vote is between you and the Lord and nobody else's business.

God Bless


JTF[/QUOTE

NO! It is not a Christians duty to vote when both choices are equally evil and unqualified.
I just can not see any difference, and no matter who wins, the downward spiral of this nation will only accelerate.
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