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CharlieGrown

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Willie-T said:
I have several friends and family members who are Democrats. So, forgiveness and acceptance are getting easier for me as time goes on. I think Jesus said it best, "Forgive them; They don't know what they do."
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2 Cor- 4:4 is all over our culture lately in my estimation. It's uncanny.
 
RickyZ

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Ultimatum77 said:
Lol that's exactly what I've been saying! :D There will be riots for at least 3 days no matter who wins imo.....it's a very volatile time in America and not very safe i might add.....
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And yet people are going to vote overwhelmingly to have more of it.
 
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Willie-T said:
It was certainly steady, but I only had to wait in line behind one person. The whole process (which here is done by coloring-in small ovals on a sheet of paper to be run through a scanner) took less than ten minutes.
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A study I saw today said that in early voting all third party candidates together have more votes than Trump and Clinton together. Join them. True, either Trump or Clinton will win this thing this year. But with the right foundation, who knows what may come in 4? Perhaps an honest chance to tell both Democrats and Republicans to take a hike. Then, and only then, can we make America great again.
 
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zeroturbulence said:
A third party vote is a boost to whichever candidate is in the lead because the one who's lagging behind is the one who needs more votes.
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What if you were going to vote for the who that is leading? Why is there the assumption that a third party vote would otherwise go to and boost the loser? I voted third party, but I would not vote at all before I'd vote for either of those two. So neither would gain my third party vote.
 
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Willie-T said:
And, as I understand it, there are many more Democrats in the USA than Republicans. So, not voting is keeping just one more vote from the Republican count.
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Again, faulty thinking. Why do you ASSUME that a third party vote steals only from the Republicans?
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
What if you were going to vote for the who that is leading? Why is there the assumption that a third party vote would otherwise go to and boost the loser?.
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Math, and the precedence of Ross Perot. That's how we got the first Clinton.
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
Again, faulty thinking. Why do you ASSUME that a third party vote steals only from the Republicans?
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I think he is saying R are in the minority and need every vote. You don't typically see D voters going 3rd party. Sorry if I misrepresented your quote Willie. ;)
 
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Desdichado said:
I think she is going to need a good lawyer after this.
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Which is something to seriously consider... a vote for Clinton may very easily become a vote for Kaine. What do we know about him?
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
Which is something to seriously consider... a vote for Clinton may very easily become a vote for Kaine. What do we know about him?
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No doubt about it in my mind, just from an apparent physical health point of view.
 
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CharlieGrown said:
Math, and the precedence of Ross Perot. That's how we got the first Clinton.
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If there are more Dems then Reps, and since people in both parties are equally as unhappy with the 2 choices they foolishly think they have, math says more defectors fall from the Dems than the Reps.And this country missed a HUGE opportunity when it turned down Ross Perot. That's probably in the top ten stupidest things this populace has ever done.
 
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CharlieGrown said:
I think he is saying R are in the minority and need every vote. You don't typically see D voters going 3rd party. Sorry if I misrepresented your quote Willie. ;)
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Every person I know, regardless of political party, are horrified at the supposedly only 2 choices they think they have. Yet, they all plan to vote for one or the other horror. THEY PLAN TO VOTE FOR HORROR. It's insanity if you ask me.
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
If there are more Dems then Reps, and since people in both parties are equally as unhappy with the 2 choices they foolishly think they have, math says more defectors fall from the Dems than the Reps.And this country missed a HUGE opportunity when it turned down Ross Perot. That's probably in the top ten stupidest things this populace has ever done.
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You may be right about Perot, but again typically Dems will vote D with more loyalty than the same Repubs voting for R when they are tempted to choose a losing 3rd party candidate based on issue preference. This logically tips the math against the on the fence Republican voters.
 
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CharlieGrown said:
No doubt about it in my mind, just from an apparent physical health point of view.
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Ok, so now we have Kaine pretty much running as an unannounced third party candidate. Every Democratic vote cast will in likelihood be cast for a third party candidate. Jus' something else to consider.
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
Every person I know, regardless of political party, are horrified at the supposedly only 2 choices they think they have. Yet, they all plan to vote for one or the other horror. THEY PLAN TO VOTE FOR HORROR. It's insanity if you ask me.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, or the HORROR.
 
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So why why why vote for horror, other than old bad habits and mistaken beliefs?
 
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CharlieGrown

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RickyZ said:
So why why why vote for horror, other than old bad habits and mistaken beliefs?
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There is no Kobayashi Maru move. Voting policies of a valid winner is the only option IMO. We're playing checkers on their chess board.
 
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The Kobayashi Maru :) That settles it my vote is for you!
 
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