How to prove that the Earth is flat, and not a sphere...

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GaryA

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Are you so absolutely sure that what you have been taught to believe cannot possibly be in error?
Are you so absolutely sure that what you have been taught to believe cannot possibly be in error?

 

posthuman

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Are you so absolutely sure that what you have been taught to believe cannot possibly be in error?

just watch the sky tonight and tell me which one of these you see, Gary.

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posthuman

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just watch the sky tonight and tell me which one of these you see, Gary.

and do let me know if you see this instead, since you think the sun is a spotlight and doesn't shine in every direction

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lol

take a picture. test and see.
 

EarnestQ

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and do let me know if you see this instead, since you think the sun is a spotlight and doesn't shine in every direction

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lol

take a picture. test and see.

You know he won't.

Either he already knows better, or he's so self-righteous he's delusional. (I am inclining to believe the former.)

Sad, either way.


(Maybe we should go track down real conspiracies like niblets said?)
 
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Train tracks are interesting. Even more interesting, the builders of those tracks never, ..let that word sink in, (never) factor in the supposed earth curvature. Don't take my word for it, look it up for yourself. I can't find where any builder of anything, bridges, city planners (flood zoning) any of them.. account for earth curvature...why is that? Hey, if anybody has proof to the contrary, please present it. (my brother in law works for xyz, and he says....is not proof)I have questions..the more I research this the more round spinning ball does not compute.


Where does the 2000 year concensus that the earth is a spinning ball come from? (EarnestQ) In their writings, Luther and Calvin said otherwise.
Is there no one who cares to answer?
 
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GaryA

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:D

posthuman:

You apparently don't understand as much as you would like to think you do about perspective in the flat earth model.

The sun going down -- a ship going out to sea -- someone walking down a long stretch of road -- it is all the same.

The sun never vanishes before reaching the horizon -- no matter how small it gets, it is still too large within the scope and range of the perception of the human eye. So then, when it does vanish - it will be at the horizon -- when it reaches the limit of the perception of the human eye.

Put another way -- the part of the sun that cannot be seen - is not below the horizon - it is beyond the horizon.

There really is no such thing as "below the horizon"; there cannot be - it defies the definition. Think about it...

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posthuman

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Is there no one who cares to answer?
why should they?

train tracks are laid in usually 39ft rail sections, with a small gap to allow for thermal expansion. how much curvature do you think there is over 39 feet?
 

posthuman

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Put another way -- the part of the sun that cannot be seen - is not below the horizon - it is beyond the horizon.
the half of the sun that is below the horizon is not too small for the eye to see, or the top half of the sun would also be the same size.
i've showed you the math too -- on a flat earth, the sun never appears to actually touch the horizon. it's not 'that far' away in your paradigm that it wouldn't be an appreciable distance above the visible horizon at all times -- and it wouldn't shrink in size by more than about 30% (therefore also in apparent brightness by any less either).

in short, in your paradigm, the sun never becomes too small to see, never touches the horizon, and never dims more than it would if a thin cloud passed in front of it at noon.

'perspective' is a stupid argument for sunsets. does not hold a single drop of water.

still can't decide if you are a troll, or if you are just stupid..?

((yeah, i said it))

 
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A flat earther should come to Texas. You don't even need an ocean to see the curve.
 

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The sun would also move in a way inconsistent with how it does now. Not only would it only get small, it would move to what we consider to be the north.
 

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You do realize that in skyscrapers, airplanes, mountain ranges, any form of altitude you can see the sunset longer than you can at sea level? Ergo, the Earth is not flat.
 
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GaryA

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and do let me know if you see this instead, since you think the sun is a spotlight and doesn't shine in every direction
B.T.W. --- F.Y.I. --- *I* never said this. I do not believe it. Never have.
 
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GaryA

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the half of the sun that is below the horizon is not too small for the eye to see, or the top half of the sun would also be the same size.
i've showed you the math too --
on a flat earth, the sun never appears to actually touch the horizon. { Wrong! } ... YADA YADA YADA blah blah blah
WHOOOOOOOOOOSH

Right over your head.

Missed it entirely.

SMH

:rolleyes:


by this is meant:

"incapable of comprehension"
Based on what you said here...:

"Are you stupid?"


. . . which is Biblical to say, at this point:

whoever hates correction is stupid.
(Proverbs 12:1)



Based on what you said here...:

"Are you stupid?"



posthuman:


Your problem in obtaining a proper understanding of all of this is that you are trying to define the Flat Earth Model in Globe Earth Model terms.

It - does - not - work - that - way. ;)

If you will learn how to look at the Flat Earth Model in Flat Earth Model terms --- you should be able to understand it a whole lot better...


Chill out, Brother... :D


I am not a troll. I am only trying to help you understand it better. BUT, you are going to have to swallow a bunch of that PRIDE --- otherwise, you are never going to get anywhere with it...


You should do a lot more thinking than reacting. If you will do that, you just might learn something new.


Have a nice day!



Don't react.

Study. Think. Observe. Ponder.


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Karraster

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why should they?

train tracks are laid in usually 39ft rail sections, with a small gap to allow for thermal expansion. how much curvature do you think there is over 39 feet?
“One hundred and eighteen miles of LEVEL railway, and yet the surface on which it is projected a globe? Impossible. It cannot be. Early in 1898 I met Mr. Hughes, chief officer of the steamer ‘City of Lincoln.’ This gentleman told me he had projected thousands of miles of level railway in South America, and never heard of any allowance for curvature being made. On one occasion he surveyed over one thousand miles of railway which was a perfect straight line all the way. It is well known that in the Argentine Republic and other parts of South America, there are railways thousands of miles long without curve or gradient. In projecting railways, the world is acknowledged to be a plane, and if it were a globe the rules of projection have yet to be discovered. Level railways prove a level world, to the utter confusion of the globular school of impractical men with high salaries and little brains.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (109)
 
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Susanna

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“One hundred and eighteen miles of LEVEL railway, and yet the surface on which it is projected a globe? Impossible. It cannot be. Early in 1898 I met Mr. Hughes, chief officer of the steamer ‘City of Lincoln.’ This gentleman told me he had projected thousands of miles of level railway in South America, and never heard of any allowance for curvature being made. On one occasion he surveyed over one thousand miles of railway which was a perfect straight line all the way. It is well known that in the Argentine Republic and other parts of South America, there are railways thousands of miles long without curve or gradient. In projecting railways, the world is acknowledged to be a plane, and if it were a globe the rules of projection have yet to be discovered. Level railways prove a level world, to the utter confusion of the globular school of impractical men with high salaries and little brains.” -Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny” (109)
I think this was slightly above Thomas Winships pay grade...
 

EarnestQ

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Is there no one who cares to answer?

If you would have bothered to read my posts you would have seen my reference to the Antikythera device.

Regarding calculations for the curvature of the earth, that is included in the radio wave propagation I also mentioned earlier.

You argue that because people don't make math corrections when laying railroad tracks therefore the earth must be flat. Yet you deny the math calculations that show the earth is spherical in every known way to humanity and has been proven over and over again, not the least of which is by the length of the meter.

Either you are morbidly self-righteous and delusionally deceived by the enemy, or you know better and are even more deceived by the enemy such that either you consider acting like an idiot to be "fun" or you are doing this for pay and/or an agenda.

I pray in the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST that you will repent of your evil and attempts to deceive others and give your life wholly and unreservedly to the truth of the LORD Jesus Christ and the Jesus Christ of truth.

May God work wonders in your life and bring you to Him in a dynamic and memorable way. In fact, to the extent that I have the authority under God, I ask God to do whatever He wants and/or needs to do to bring you into His family. And not only you, but those you work for and with. May God make himself clear to you and those who are with you in this FENS propagation. In Jesus' name, amen.

 

posthuman

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Train tracks are interesting. Even more interesting, the builders of those tracks never, ..let that word sink in, (never) factor in the supposed earth curvature.
this is equivalent to taking a 1-foot diameter beach ball, and laying teeny strips of metal 0.000003 inches long across it, and claiming that those strips need to be curved instead of straight, because the beach ball is curved.

look at this picture:

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do you see a circle, or do you see 3.4 million straight lines joined end to end?

because that's how many railroad track sections it would take to span the circumference of the earth. imagine, if you can, what the angular gap between each one would be.
do you think that if you had 3,371,212 toothpicks and arranged them in a circle, that you would need to carefully bend each toothpick to make it so that a tiny train could go across them OK?
 
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