What is the point in being a prophet?

[miknik5]

What is your understanding about the outer and inner courts

 

[miknik5]

A REFUGE has been provided. Please, do the work of a witness to THE LORD and point all to THE DOOR...

 

[Hawkins]

I have a question for you.

If I answered that Billy Graham confirmed my prophecy, would it hold more weight with you than if I said the Holy Spirit confirmed it?

I am gifted to discern the claimed prophets. I must say that you are not a prophet.

 

[LaurenTM]

I am gifted to discern the claimed prophets. I must say that you are not a prophet.

got the right and left hands pointing at each other here

why should we believe you and not him?

I'll give you a break though

he is not a prophet

 

[Hawkins]

got the right and left hands pointing at each other here

why should we believe you and not him?

I'll give you a break though

he is not a prophet

Did I say anything wrong?

 

[LaurenTM]

Did I say anything wrong?

no, you were right

however, your statement was pretty revealing with regards to the authority to speak such things

don't mind me...I'm nitpicking this am

 

[Hawkins]

no, you were right

however, your statement was pretty revealing with regards to the authority to speak such things

don't mind me...I'm nitpicking this am

It's ok.

All I meant to say is that a prophet should know the way how God confirms His own messages. He should understand the following message to a deeper level.

Acts 14:3 (NIV)
So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to do miraculous signs and wonders.

 

[LaurenTM]

I know right. I think about it all the time.

In the end, I can only tell you what the scripture says, "Come out of her my people." That means, leave America. Move. Does that seem uncomfortable? Of course it is. It's been uncomfortable for everyone God has called to move (Abraham, Israel, the Exodus, etc.)

Other than that, salvation doesn't change. Those who listen to the Lord and trust in Him will be saved - both here and in the hereafter. If you choose to stay in America, however, you have failed to follow God's warning of "Come out of her my people" and "run for your lives". If you stay, you didn't heed God's call to save your own life.

I wish there was more to say to make it all better.

that made sense when Jeremiah said it

you saying it, does not invalidate the scriptures, but you are not a prophet

you most likely know zilch about historical Babylon or how John's revelation would have been received or understood when it was written

If you choose to stay in America, however, you have failed to follow God's warning of "Come out of her my people" and "run for your lives".

the US is not the Babylon of Revelation...you don't know what you are going on about

 

[LaurenTM]

It's ok.

All I meant to say is that a prophet should know the way how God confirms His own messages. He should understand the following message to a deeper level.

Acts 14:3 (NIV)
So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to do miraculous signs and wonders.

everybody and his gook uncle wants to be a prophet

ask a prophet, if you can actually find a real one, how much fun that is

well wait, just read about the lives of the OT prophets and you can get a good picture of it

however, people seem to love to believe they are on par with men who suffered greatly for the message

they don't understand NT prophecy, and constantly confuse it with the old

the only reason some people even listen to the nonsense, is because most have not systematically studied scripture and seem to think the Holy Spirit has made an exception in their case and communicates by direct revelation

I guess they missed the scripture where we are told that the Holy Spirit will bring to our minds, what we KNOW and what we know is not our opinion

end of rant

 

[voiceinthewild]

everybody and his gook uncle wants to be a prophet

ask a prophet, if you can actually find a real one, how much fun that is

well wait, just read about the lives of the OT prophets and you can get a good picture of it

however, people seem to love to believe they are on par with men who suffered greatly for the message

they don't understand NT prophecy, and constantly confuse it with the old

the only reason some people even listen to the nonsense, is because most have not systematically studied scripture and seem to think the Holy Spirit has made an exception in their case and communicates by direct revelation

I guess they missed the scripture where we are told that the Holy Spirit will bring to our minds, what we KNOW and what we know is not our opinion

end of rant

You're a hateful old racist. Why would anyone listen to what you have to say?

You're very presumptuous in thinking you know me, what I know, or what I've been through.

I didn't come to here to toot my own horn or to glory in this. I came to ask a question and that was the point of this thread: "What is the point in being a prophet?" No one listens, people ridicule you, you're hated by your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, people think you're an idiot, etc, etc. Seriously, you can give me your uppity retorts of "A prophet wouldn't ask such questions" "If you were a prophet, you'd know that already" "If you knew the word of God, you wouldn't ask such questions", but in the end, I see no point in warning people of what is to come if they're not going to listen anyway.

Unless America suddenly repents and turns from every wicked thing they're doing and God graciously pushes off His judgment to another generation, there is no hope for those who remain in this country. I'm sorry. That's just how it is. All I've said will come to pass and, regardless of how you feel about it or your opinion about it, only a national repentance might have a chance of sparing us what is to come. And as I said before in this thread, when these things come to pass, it will verify what I've said is from the Lord and, unfortunately, those sitting here reading this will most likely not be alive to confirm it. But then it will have been too late to heed the words of the prophets (not my words - they're what is plainly says in God's word; see posts #98 and #99).

Continue to deny me, continue to mock me, continue to say I'm not a prophet - I really don't care. I didn't come to this site to get anyone's approval or anyone's blessing. I knew full well that I would not be received - that's the whole point of the question behind this thread. I know what I say will come to pass, I'm not worried about being wrong. I'm more worried that I'm right.

 

[LaurenTM]

You're a hateful old racist. Why would anyone listen to what you have to say?

You're very presumptuous in thinking you know me, what I know, or what I've been through.

I didn't come to here to toot my own horn or to glory in this. I came to ask a question and that was the point of this thread: "What is the point in being a prophet?" No one listens, people ridicule you, you're hated by your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, people think you're an idiot, etc, etc. Seriously, you can give me your uppity retorts of "A prophet wouldn't ask such questions" "If you were a prophet, you'd know that already" "If you knew the word of God, you wouldn't ask such questions", but in the end, I see no point in warning people of what is to come if they're not going to listen anyway.

Unless America suddenly repents and turns from every wicked thing they're doing and God graciously pushes off His judgment to another generation, there is no hope for those who remain in this country. I'm sorry. That's just how it is. All I've said WILL come to pass and, regardless of how you feel about it or your opinion about it, only a national repentance may have a chance of sparing us what is to come. And as I said before in this thread, when these things come to pass, it will verify what I've said is from the Lord and, unfortunately, those sitting here reading this will not be alive to confirm it. But then it will have been too late to heed the words of the prophets (not my words - they're what is plainly says in God's word; see posts #98 and #99).

God told me to tell you that you are putting words in His mouth

God really does not like it when someone says they are speaking for Him and they do not have His permission to do so

you are a fake phony and phony fake

the world is on fire false prophet...and you don't need even a real prophet to tell you that

and by the way? I'm not kidding when I state God told me to tell you...know where?

in His word...which, it seems, you are not really clear on

You're a hateful old racist. Why would anyone listen to what you have to say?

You're very presumptuous in thinking you know me, what I know, or what I've been through.

yeah...that's real prophet speak there buddy...humble and loving and offering reconciliation with God

you are fake

 

[voiceinthewild]

yeah...that's real prophet speak there buddy...humble and loving and offering reconciliation with God

you are fake

You're right. I shouldn't have been so quick to disregard you for you off-color racist remark.

I'm sure you do a lot for the church of Christ and love and help those in your neighborhood and share the Gospel to those you around to the glory of the Lord. I won't take that from you. The Lord bless you and keep you and multiply your fruit for the work you do in His name.


Like I said, go ahead and hammer me. Hit me with your best shot. Tell me I'm a fake, tell me I'm a phony. Tell me I'm putting words in God's mouth. Tell me He will kill me for my disobedience. Tell me I know nothing about which I'm speaking. Tell me all that you would like that brings you peace from my prophecy, but know this, nothing you say or think towards me will change it. I'm sorry. I wish it would.

 

[LaurenTM]

You're right. I shouldn't have been so quick to disregard you for you off-color racist remark.

I'm sure you do a lot for the church of Christ and love and help those in your neighborhood and share the Gospel to those you around to the glory of the Lord. I won't take that from you. The Lord bless you and keep you and multiply your fruit for the work you do in His name.


Like I said, go ahead and hammer me. Hit me with your best shot. Tell me I'm a fake, tell me I'm a phony. Tell me I'm putting words in God's mouth. Tell me He will kill me for my disobedience. Tell me I know nothing about which I'm speaking. Tell me all that you would like that brings you peace from my prophecy, but know this, nothing you say or think towards me will change it. I'm sorry. I wish it would.

you are not a prophet...that is all

I shouldn't have been so quick to disregard you for you off-color racist remark.

what? you should have waited like, oh another 15 minutes to do so?

just nonsense

you have no authority...you are not a prophet

I'm sure you do a lot for the church of Christ and love and help those in your neighborhood and share the Gospel to those you around to the glory of the Lord. I won't take that from you. The Lord bless you and keep you and multiply your fruit for the work you do in His name.

you are not sure of anything about me

if you were a prophet, you would not answer me as you have

the fact I have to point out to you how badly you answered me, actually gives more credence to me stating that I am prophet

but I am not a prophet

what is it you think you can take from me? you gave me nothing to begin with

you are tangling yourself up in your non-prophetic ramblings

 

[eph610]

You're a hateful old racist. Why would anyone listen to what you have to say?

You're very presumptuous in thinking you know me, what I know, or what I've been through.

I didn't come to here to toot my own horn or to glory in this. I came to ask a question and that was the point of this thread: "What is the point in being a prophet?" No one listens, people ridicule you, you're hated by your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, people think you're an idiot, etc, etc. Seriously, you can give me your uppity retorts of "A prophet wouldn't ask such questions" "If you were a prophet, you'd know that already" "If you knew the word of God, you wouldn't ask such questions", but in the end, I see no point in warning people of what is to come if they're not going to listen anyway.

Unless America suddenly repents and turns from every wicked thing they're doing and God graciously pushes off His judgment to another generation, there is no hope for those who remain in this country. I'm sorry. That's just how it is. All I've said will come to pass and, regardless of how you feel about it or your opinion about it, only a national repentance might have a chance of sparing us what is to come. And as I said before in this thread, when these things come to pass, it will verify what I've said is from the Lord and, unfortunately, those sitting here reading this will most likely not be alive to confirm it. But then it will have been too late to heed the words of the prophets (not my words - they're what is plainly says in God's word; see posts #98 and #99).

Continue to deny me, continue to mock me, continue to say I'm not a prophet - I really don't care. I didn't come to this site to get anyone's approval or anyone's blessing. I knew full well that I would not be received - that's the whole point of the question behind this thread. I know what I say will come to pass, I'm not worried about being wrong. I'm more worried that I'm right.

All it takes is for someone to squeeze a little bit of someones fruit and you see whats on the inside....


You wanna play Prophet, lets play....

Show me in the Word with Chapter and Verse that God is judging the USA right now! DO it and be quick about it, dont show me allegory of Revelations, show me book, chapter and verse that it says plainly the USA is being judged by God.

All the celebrity prophets on TV and all the televangelists in the USA that say God is judging us right now for America's condition are wrong. God is not currently using natural disaster and other things to get our attention and judge is. This is a false doctrine and easily refuted by the Word of God.

Acts 17.30-31 Paul tells us who will Judge us one day and it is Jesus Christ

[SUP]30 [/SUP]Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, [SUP]31 [/SUP]because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

Jesus confirms who is to be judged and when in all of John 5, but John 5.24 tears apart the current false doctrine that God is judging the USA now and that if we invoke 2 Chronicles 7.14 he will stop. This is a lie straight from hell to sell buckets of food, and books.

America is not and will not be immune from end of age Prophecy. It is like USA churches think they will escape everything, and they wont and it is because they have been ignorant of the devils schemes.

John 5.24-Jesus speaking
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

See also Matt 25.31-46

What we are seeing in the USA is the evil that was always here that was under the surface now in our faces, because the church has failed in its mission [Prov 29.18]


You guys are easily discerned and easily refuted by the Word. Go play thus saith the Lord OT prophet with another board.

 

[eph610]

You're right. I shouldn't have been so quick to disregard you for you off-color racist remark.

I'm sure you do a lot for the church of Christ and love and help those in your neighborhood and share the Gospel to those you around to the glory of the Lord. I won't take that from you. The Lord bless you and keep you and multiply your fruit for the work you do in His name.


Like I said, go ahead and hammer me. Hit me with your best shot. Tell me I'm a fake, tell me I'm a phony. Tell me I'm putting words in God's mouth. Tell me He will kill me for my disobedience. Tell me I know nothing about which I'm speaking. Tell me all that you would like that brings you peace from my prophecy, but know this, nothing you say or think towards me will change it. I'm sorry. I wish it would.

Spare us the false humility and backtrack and make believe persecution. A true Prophet could defend himself with the Sword of the Spirit. You are no prophet and I used the Word to prove that to everyone.

 

[LaurenTM]

Acts 17.30-31 Paul tells us who will Judge us one day and it is Jesus Christ

[SUP]30 [/SUP]Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all peopleeverywhere should repent, [SUP]31 [/SUP]because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

Jesus confirms who is to be judged and when in all of John 5, but John 5.24 tears apart the current false doctrine that God is judging the USA now and that if we invoke 2 Chronicles 7.14 he will stop. This is a lie straight from hell to sell buckets of food, and books.

America is not and will not be immune from end of age Prophecy. It is like USA churches think they will escape everything, and they wont and it is because they have been ignorant of the devils schemes.

John 5.24-Jesus speaking
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

See also Matt 25.31-46

What we are seeing in the USA is the evil that was always here that was under the surface now in our faces, because the church has failed in its mission [Prov 29.18]


You guys are easily discerned and easily refuted by the Word. Go play thus saith the Lord OT prophet with another board.

amen and amen

all authority is given to Jesus Christ

however, these scriptures do have authority...they have the authority given them to God because they are truth

Spare us the false humility and backtrack and make believe persecution. A true Prophet could defend himself with the Sword of the Spirit. You are no prophet and I used the Word to prove that to everyone.

when people are not sure about what is false, it is because they do not know what is real

and that is a sad, but true, state of affairs

 

[Hawkins]

everybody and his gook uncle wants to be a prophet

ask a prophet, if you can actually find a real one, how much fun that is

well wait, just read about the lives of the OT prophets and you can get a good picture of it

however, people seem to love to believe they are on par with men who suffered greatly for the message

they don't understand NT prophecy, and constantly confuse it with the old

the only reason some people even listen to the nonsense, is because most have not systematically studied scripture and seem to think the Holy Spirit has made an exception in their case and communicates by direct revelation

I guess they missed the scripture where we are told that the Holy Spirit will bring to our minds, what we KNOW and what we know is not our opinion

end of rant

We know prophets only from the Bible, we can't meet a real one in our life time to give a correct judgment on what a prophet is. Even in the Bible, prophets seldom talked about how they are assured of the messages from God.

From our life time experience on the other hand, we receive God's messages from the guidance of the Holy Spirit. However, it by no means says that the way God communicates with us is the same way He chooses to communicate with His prophets.

I myself am aware of ways which convey messages much more unambiguously. The verse I listed (Acts 14:3) represents one of these ways.

 

[voiceinthewild]

All it takes is for someone to squeeze a little bit of someones fruit and you see whats on the inside....


You wanna play Prophet, lets play....

Show me in the Word with Chapter and Verse that God is judging the USA right now! DO it and be quick about it, dont show me allegory of Revelations, show me book, chapter and verse that it says plainly the USA is being judged by God.

All the celebrity prophets on TV and all the televangelists in the USA that say God is judging us right now for America's condition are wrong. God is not currently using natural disaster and other things to get our attention and judge is. This is a false doctrine and easily refuted by the Word of God.

I'm not saying God is doing that. As far as I'm aware, God's judgment of this country is a one and done. He could be using natural disasters to pour out judgment on us, but He didn't impress that idea upon me.

 

[voiceinthewild]

I think it's funny what everyone thinks a prophet should be or what a prophet is. Haha! I really do.

And with all the hatred that you pour out against me, I could say you're not acting like Christians. I've repeated umpteenth times the reason I posted this thread and so very few of the posters here have addressed it. And I've repeated plenty of times that I don't care what you think of me, I didn't come here to get your approval. God (the Holy Spirit) already told me I would not be accepted and that I would be the unheard prophet.

I'm more concerned about the spiritual cannibalism you got going on here: cutting me down and hating me even though I'm a fellow servant in the Lord. It's a very antiChrist spirit to pretend you know better than Christ. Ask yourselves, would Jesus have you speaking to me the way you're speaking to me? If I'm wrong and I'm a liar, then nothing will happen and God will deal with me accordingly. I'm fine with that - He knows my heart and my mind and my soul. If I'm right (and I am), then America will be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust at the hands of Russia and I'll be proven right and it will be proven that I was indeed prophesying - and yet, what was the point in knowing? What was the point in being a prophet since no one would listen and everyone disregarded and ridiculed me? THOSE questions are the meat of this thread.

 

[Hawkins]

I think it's funny what everyone thinks a prophet should be or what a prophet is. Haha! I really do.

And with all the hatred that you pour out against me, I could say you're not acting like Christians. I've repeated umpteenth times the reason I posted this thread and so very few of the posters here have addressed it. And I've repeated plenty of times that I don't care what you think of me, I didn't come here to get your approval. God (the Holy Spirit) already told me I would not be accepted and that I would be the unheard prophet.

I'm more concerned about the spiritual cannibalism you got going on here: cutting me down and hating me even though I'm a fellow servant in the Lord. It's a very antiChrist spirit to pretend you know better than Christ. Ask yourselves, would Jesus have you speaking to me the way you're speaking to me? If I'm wrong and I'm a liar, then nothing will happen and God will deal with me accordingly. I'm fine with that - He knows my heart and my mind and my soul. If I'm right (and I am), then America will be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust at the hands of Russia and I'll be proven right and it will be proven that I was indeed prophesying - and yet, what was the point in knowing? What was the point in being a prophet since no one would listen and everyone disregarded and ridiculed me? THOSE questions are the meat of this thread.

Not all people here are hostile. It actually puts you in a kind of danger to claim to be a prophet. And to the best of my knowledge, you are not a prophet. Prophet is not always about predicting. Paul seldom predict anything, yet by nature he's a prophet called supernaturally though he's given the title of an apostle.