God LIED!
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Don't know what post you refer to re: Tintin, but I don't recall my brother from down under being someone who believes in salvation being a precarious proposition that has no guarantees and can be lost. But I won't speak for the man, that wouldn't be fair.
If God is not obligated to keep His promises, we are all in big trouble.
My God does not and can not lie. Let God be true and every man a liar.
The bible is overflowing with God's promises, our only 'obligation' is to believe in Jesus. He who has the Son has the life. Salvation is a gift.
It seemed in your previous post, you were putting conditions on that gift.
Of course, we have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in Jesus, it would be silly to think otherwise, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
But we're saved and kept by Him.....He's not standing there waiting for us to blow it so He can say, 'That's it, you blew it, ssseeeyaaa!
Maybe that's what man does, but the Lord's ways are not our ways, thank God. \
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If God is not obligated to keep His promises, we are all in big trouble.
My God does not and can not lie. Let God be true and every man a liar.
The bible is overflowing with God's promises, our only 'obligation' is to believe in Jesus. He who has the Son has the life. Salvation is a gift.
It seemed in your previous post, you were putting conditions on that gift.
Of course, we have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in Jesus, it would be silly to think otherwise, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
But we're saved and kept by Him.....He's not standing there waiting for us to blow it so He can say, 'That's it, you blew it, ssseeeyaaa!
Maybe that's what man does, but the Lord's ways are not our ways, thank God. \
/I'm not sure anyone just BELIEVES they received the Holy Spirit. They kNOW. And some of us who know have never spoken in tongues. But I am not goingt o be part of turning this intoa thread that insists we have to do so or we have been tricked into thinking we've met God. THAnks for the conversation and may He bless you more and more!
Don't know what post you refer to re: Tintin, but I don't recall my brother from down under being someone who believes in salvation being a precarious proposition that has no guarantees and can be lost. But I won't speak for the man, that wouldn't be fair.
If God is not obligated to keep His promises, we are all in big trouble.
My God does not and can not lie. Let God be true and every man a liar.
The bible is overflowing with God's promises, our only 'obligation' is to believe in Jesus. He who has the Son has the life. Salvation is a gift.
It seemed in your previous post, you were putting conditions on that gift.
Of course, we have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in Jesus, it would be silly to think otherwise, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
But we're saved and kept by Him.....He's not standing there waiting for us to blow it so He can say, 'That's it, you blew it, ssseeeyaaa!
Maybe that's what man does, but the Lord's ways are not our ways, thank God. \/
If God is not obligated to keep His promises, we are all in big trouble.
My God does not and can not lie. Let God be true and every man a liar.
The bible is overflowing with God's promises, our only 'obligation' is to believe in Jesus. He who has the Son has the life. Salvation is a gift.
It seemed in your previous post, you were putting conditions on that gift.
Of course, we have to believe in Jesus in order to believe in Jesus, it would be silly to think otherwise, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
But we're saved and kept by Him.....He's not standing there waiting for us to blow it so He can say, 'That's it, you blew it, ssseeeyaaa!
Maybe that's what man does, but the Lord's ways are not our ways, thank God. \
/
You are in saying "he who has the Son has life, Salvation is a gift, but he do does not have the Son also does not have life, no matter what his previous condition was in the past. Gift's can be rejected or thrown away.
Not sure what you mean, what his previous condition was in the past.
And did you read my post that you just re-quoted?
I said, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
Obviously the Gift must be received, but the Lord knows them that are His, and our salvation is secured because of Christ's FINISHED work, it's not conditional on our behavior or performance. It is a new covenant In Christ.
Saved by God, kept by God.
And did you read my post that you just re-quoted?
I said, you can't receive and reject at the same time.
Obviously the Gift must be received, but the Lord knows them that are His, and our salvation is secured because of Christ's FINISHED work, it's not conditional on our behavior or performance. It is a new covenant In Christ.
Saved by God, kept by God.
Your belief doesn't change the Biblical fact that everyone in the Bible who was baptised in the Holy Ghost, spoke in tongues,making tongues the Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost.
God has given us eight operations of tongues, and everyone are important to the believer, so why do you insist you don't have to speak in tongues?.
Augh!!! you are not listening, can you please try!!!...the condition in the past with the Israelites was faith, faith that a savior would come, the Sabbath pointed to that...
Salvation does have a condition, and it is Faith in Christ. It is being born again, which is taken out of our old family that leads to sin and death, and place in a new family in Christ that leads to life.
Salvation does have a condition, and it is Faith in Christ. It is being born again, which is taken out of our old family that leads to sin and death, and place in a new family in Christ that leads to life.
I didn't insist I don't have to speak in tongues. I just stated the truth, which is that I never have. And yet I've received my Baptism and commune with God often. It might be worth a thought that maybe some are just not given this and that the criterion we use to know if someone is our brother or sister should be love. Fruits. These are visible evidences of the Spirit and cannot be faked for long because, as an old saying goes, whatever you are carrying will spill out when someone bumps into you.
This doesn't match up with what Jesus said though.
If I have anger in my heart, but I don't act outwardly on it, He says I have ALREADY murdered.
Even society recognizes that explosive anger can hit people suddenly.
That's why they have stiffer penalties for premeditated murder than for heat of the moment anger.
If I have anger in my heart, but I don't act outwardly on it, He says I have ALREADY murdered.
Even society recognizes that explosive anger can hit people suddenly.
That's why they have stiffer penalties for premeditated murder than for heat of the moment anger.
Yes. My only point is our salvation has nothing to do with whether we make Christ our Lord, or obey Him. Our relationship will suffer, and God will chastise us, even to the point of taking us home, for prolonged rebellion, but we can never be lost.
Again, to offer any service for the gift of salvation negates it as a gift.