Anti Trump Protests Continue......

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KimPetras said:
I'll reiterate why I stated this fact. It wasn't to show it's the highest %, but to show that building a wall does nothing to alleviate this issue. Furthermore, a wall does nothing to stop people like Trump from hiring illegal immigrants.

Please reread post #265 so you don't create anymore straw man arguments.
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How do you know a wall doesn't work. Maybe you should ask the Israelis if theirs is working.
 
Sirk said:
How do you know a wall doesn't work. Maybe you should ask the Israelis if theirs is working.
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I never said a wall won't help... in fact, I argue for a wall but acknowledge a wall doesn't stop people from overstaying their visas.

A more appropriate question is: How would a wall help people from legally entering the country with a visa but not overstaying it?
 
Utah said:
Look at your quoted statement in post 271.
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I'm not getting what your objection is to though. The entire post I made was in reference to giving Mexicans reasons for them to illegally enter the US. You just quoted a portion of what I said and I haven't a clue what you're disagreeing with.
 
KimPetras said:
I never said a wall won't help... in fact, I argue for a wall but acknowledge a wall doesn't stop people from overstaying their visas.

A more appropriate question is: How would a wall help people from legally entering the country with a visa but not overstaying it?
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A good start would be electing an administration who actually cared.
 
KimPetras said:
I never said a wall won't help... in fact, I argue for a wall but acknowledge a wall doesn't stop people from overstaying their visas.

A more appropriate question is: How would a wall help people from legally entering the country with a visa but not overstaying it?
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It wont and that is why there will be a system in place to red flag expired visa holders and boot them out of here. Your point is MOOT anyways.
 
Utah said:
I'll answer for Dude: "They'll tunnel under."

I'll respond to Dude: "Landmines."
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But how does this have any relevance to the other ginormous portion of illegal immigrants?

If you stop giving them a reason to enter the country illegally, you will reduce illegal immigrant to a greater degree than building a wall. Prosecute people like Trump who hire illegal immigrants... this is like leaving food out in your camp site for bears to visit you... Common sense says if you don't give bears a reason to enter, you reduce the likelihood of bears destroying your stuff (or even you). A wall, while a pro-active approach in stopping illegal immigrantion, does not have as high of an impact as eliminating the temptations/reasons for Mexicans to cross illegally.
 
Sirk said:
A good start would be electing an administration who actually cared.
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Amen! A big mouthed,small word using, "seemingly" racist baffoon!! He is far better than what we currently have and most definately better than Sanders socialism and killary's evil scheming. Why do you think he is under so much fire? Because he is a threat to the establishment. If he wasnt so threatening, he wouldnt be talked about so much would he? The foreign nations cant say enough either because the gauntlet will be coming down on them as it shouyld have a long time ago. The USA is a country to be reckoned with.
 
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KimPetras said:
I'm not getting what your objection is to though. The entire post I made was in reference to giving Mexicans reasons for them to illegally enter the US. You just quoted a portion of what I said and I haven't a clue what you're disagreeing with.
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There are no reasons. No one is to enter a sovereign country illegally.
 
Sirk said:
A good start would be electing an administration who actually cared.
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Exactly. Which Trump doesn't... he's even admitted that the US would never deport millions of illegal immigrants in the US. He said this when he wasn't running for office though... he's singing a different tune because he will do/say anything (exactly like Hillary) to get elected. It's red meat for his Trumpites.
 
Tresnouveau_ne said:
Amen! A big mouthed,small word using, seemingly racist bafoon!! Anything is better than what we currently have and most definately better than Sanders socialism and killary's evil scheming
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As far her charge of Trump "hiring illegals for pennies on the dollar"...it's nothing more than an unfounded accusation.
 
KimPetras said:
Exactly. Which Trump doesn't... he's even admitted that the US would never deport millions of illegal immigrants in the US. He said this when he wasn't running for office though... he's singing a different tune because he will do/say anything (exactly like Hillary) to get elected. It's red meat for his Trumpites.
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Whatever you wanna say from up on high. I think the man is fed up with the idiocy.
 
KimPetras said:
A wall, while a pro-active approach in stopping illegal immigrantion, does not have as high of an impact as eliminating the temptations/reasons for Mexicans to cross illegally.
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I agree. AR-15's are much more influential in deterring people from breaking our laws.
 
Utah said:
There are no reasons. No one is to enter a sovereign country illegally.
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There are a multitude of reasons for Mexicans to enter the US illegally...

The US rewards bad behavior! People exploit illegal immigrants paying them pennies on the dollar. Desperate Mexicans illegally enter the country to find a way to work/make money for themselves/families. Politicians, like the criminal George Bush, was in favor of amnesty... How can you just legalize all the people who entered the country illegally while telling the law-abiding Mexicans who are waiting to enter the US to "wait their turn?" What incentive is there to come into the US legally if they will just amnesty those who cross illegally?
 
KimPetras said:
Exactly. Which Trump doesn't... he's even admitted that the US would never deport millions of illegal immigrants in the US. He said this when he wasn't running for office though... he's singing a different tune because he will do/say anything (exactly like Hillary) to get elected. It's red meat for his Trumpites.
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You dont know if he cares.Your just repeating what you have heard and read. You really are embarrassing yourself.
 
Utah said:
I agree. AR-15's are much more influential in deterring people from breaking our laws.
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Your AR-15 is exponentially more effective in stopping illegal immigration than a wall... I agree. But the best way is to eliminate the reasons for Mexicans to come to the US illegally. A wall nor an AR-15 won't stop overstayed visas or employees exploiting illegal immigrants.
 
KimPetras said:
There are a multitude of reasons for Mexicans to enter the US illegally...

The US rewards bad behavior! People exploit illegal immigrants paying them pennies on the dollar. Desperate Mexicans illegally enter the country to find a way to work/make money for themselves/families. Politicians, like the criminal George Bush, was in favor of amnesty... How can you just legalize all the people who entered the country illegally while telling the law-abiding Mexicans who are waiting to enter the US to "wait their turn?" What incentive is there to come into the US legally if they will just amnesty those who cross illegally?
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Should we be calling them "people of spanish decent"? How very politically incorrect of you. You sound racist.
 
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