getting dates about a young earth

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Bowman said:
#3 is the only viable option.

Einstein's Relativity proves that the laws of physics have always remained the same, from any vantage point, so that would nix #1.

#2 is nixed for scriptural reasons alone. God does not create with the deception of old age - that would make Himself deceitful. Adam & Eve were raised as children. Jesus' humanity was conceived in the womb, born as a babe, and raised as a child, etc, etc ..
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Science has disproved that the laws of psychics stay the same and an evolutionary scientist even did that...you may want to look at my older posts on this thread....
 
Dan_473 said:
details about the hebrew, plzzzz? I'm interested.

so, two questions
were adam and eve formed as babies?
were they born to non-human parents?
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The Triune God is who created and formed Adam & Eve, thus, it is fitting that this same God was their parent.


And Yahweh Elohim built (way·yi·ḇen) the side which He had taken from the man into a woman, and brought her (way·ḇi·’e·hā) to the man. And the man said, This now at last( hap·pa·‘am) is bone from my bones, and flesh from my flesh. For this shall be called Woman, because this has been taken out of man. (Gen 2.22 – 23)


As the first human clone, three things in these two passages indicate that Eve was created as a child needing to be raised separate from Adam before she was presented back as an age-appropriate mate.


· The Hebrew verb ‘banah’, employed for the creation of Eve, carries with it the meaning to ‘have children’ and ‘obtain children’.

· The Hebrew verb ‘bo’ informs the reader that after Eve was created from Adam, she then had to be brought back to Adam because she was not with Adam.If Eve had been created as a same-age-adult as Adam, then why would Adam have not woken up with Eve by his side to begin with?

· The exclamation ‘hap·pa·‘am’ (at last!) by Adam indicates that he had been waiting for his mate for a very long time.‘Paam’ carries with it the definition of ‘annual’ and ‘time’, indicating long duration.
 
Dino246 said:
Do you have a better term for using the word "simpleton" which you applied to fellow Christians? That sounds like an insult to me. So yes, I felt the need, and that is my reason.
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The term 'foolish' is a synonym...is that more politically correct for you...?



Dodge, as in sidestep or avoid. Once again, you fail to deal directly with my challenge and make a personal attack. Ad hominem arguments do not validate your views. You still haven't defended your assertion of the unchanging speed of light.
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If you were a Jew, you would be accusing me of being an anti-Semitic, because I disagree with your worldview.

E= mc^2 destroys your YEC worldview.
 
Dan_473 said:
if Jesus makes real wine out of water, to me that would be a good parallel with making an already-aged universe.

presenting someone with a liquid that can be observed to be wine, but is in fact wine-tasting liquid, I would say is a kind of deception.
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John 2 marks this event as a miracle....not deception.
 
Dan_473 said:
suppose the vantage points moved as well?

to put it another way, shall we say that it's impossible for God to have changed the speed of light, but changed other things as well, such that we observe the speed of light to be unchanging?
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Again...

That is why Einstein's Relativity is so vitally important to understand....it does not matter what your vantage point is...the speed of light ALWAYS remains the same.

Your smart phone uses relativity in order to work. Is your phone on the move?
 
Bowman said:
The term 'foolish' is a synonym...is that more politically correct for you...?





If you were a Jew, you would be accusing me of being an anti-Semitic, because I disagree with your worldview.

E= mc^2 destroys your YEC worldview.
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Bowman said:
John 2 marks this event as a miracle....not deception.
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The fact that you claim to believe god can overcome th elaws of Science in John 2 yet evidently do not believe God can use a miracle to overcome E=MC^2 in the creation of earth (aged)

either shows your not being honest. Or you do not believe in miracles at all.

either way It PROVES you are wrong in saying you destroy our theories, and you can not destroy or prove us wrong..

You can continue to try, but in doing so, all you do is continue to prove you are not an honest person.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
The fact that you claim to believe god can overcome th elaws of Science in John 2 yet evidently do not believe God can use a miracle to overcome E=MC^2 in the creation of earth (aged)

either shows your not being honest. Or you do not believe in miracles at all.

either way It PROVES you are wrong in saying you destroy our theories, and you can not destroy or prove us wrong..

You can continue to try, but in doing so, all you do is continue to prove you are not an honest person.
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The Biblical creation accounts contained in the Holy Bible, all point to operating within the bounds of fixed laws of physics...not changing ones.

Study up...
 
Bowman said:
The Biblical creation accounts contained in the Holy Bible, all point to operating within the bounds of fixed laws of physics...not changing ones.

Study up...
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I have For years.

We have your OPINION not based on fact. And other OPINIONS.

I chose not to iudge or condemn you based on your opinion..

You chose to judge everyone who does not agree with you..

So. No one should even be discussing this with you, Your heart is hard..
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I have For years.

We have your OPINION not based on fact. And other OPINIONS.

I chose not to iudge or condemn you based on your opinion..

You chose to judge everyone who does not agree with you..

So. No one should even be discussing this with you, Your heart is hard..
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That's so cliché of you...
 
Bowman said:
The term 'foolish' is a synonym...is that more politically correct for you...?

If you were a Jew, you would be accusing me of being an anti-Semitic, because I disagree with your worldview.
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This has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with you showing contempt for fellow Christians.

"But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." (Matthew 5:22)

"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does no keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless" (James 1:26).

"Those who oppose him he must gently instruct..." (2 Tim 2:25).

I see no need to continue discussing anything with one claiming to be a Christian who shows such a negative, immature, fleshly attitude and uses personal attacks repeatedly.
 
kodiak said:
It fits in a fourth....If you go into a lot of detail it proves a young earth, but on the surface it disproves the unreliability of dating methods.
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ok, if I read that right, "it disproves the unreliability of dating methods" would mean that it proves the reliability of dating methods.

if that's the case, which methods does it show reliability for?


also, I'm interested... what are the details in which it proves a young earth, plzzzz?
 
Dino246 said:
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This has nothing to do with political correctness. It has to do with you showing contempt for fellow Christians.

"But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." (Matthew 5:22)

"If anyone considers himself religious and yet does no keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless" (James 1:26).

"Those who oppose him he must gently instruct..." (2 Tim 2:25).

I see no need to continue discussing anything with one claiming to be a Christian who shows such a negative, immature, fleshly attitude and uses personal attacks repeatedly.
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Come back when you can address the message in lieu of being fixated on the messenger...
 
Dan_473 said:
ok, if I read that right, "it disproves the unreliability of dating methods" would mean that it proves the reliability of dating methods.

if that's the case, which methods does it show reliability for?


also, I'm interested... what are the details in which it proves a young earth, plzzzz?
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I meant to say it proves the unreliability of the popular dating methods....

ok, give me a while to find all the information again.
 
The answer to this is staring right at you. Look into the sky at night. Some of those stars are so far away that their light takes more than 10k years to reach your eyesight. How long do you think the human race would have survived had we lived at the same time as dinosaurs? You would have been a tasty snack for T-Rex.:p
 
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