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God said His holy tithe was to be agricultural, not monetary.
That's the typical lame excuse to deny God's 10%.

in light of The punishment He alloted to Aaron's sons, Nadab and Abihu for offering a substitute for what He decreed, do you really think God would accept something as tithe other than what He said His tithe was to consist of?

Do you really believe He is happy with us giving tithes to one person when He said they are to go to someone else?
He is blessed with our tithes and offerings and pleased to bless back abundantly. He loves a cheerful giver. If one would begrudge the tithe, then by all means do not do it. It is a spiritually discerned matter, and not a command. If God places on one's heart to tithe, then one is disobedient to not do it. If He isn't telling you to tithe, then why would you do so?


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We can argue all day long about whether we use the word tithe or not.

One thing is that we should be hapy and joyful givers to God.. plus, who do you think pays (in church)the electric bill (you do like to be warm in the winter ?), water charges, waste disposal. building maintenance, toilet roll/tissue, who's paying for the seats you sit in, stipends etc .

When I hear someone say we shouldnt tithe or pay, I hear someone looking to free load. and thats before we even get to the seriouse heart issue. so is it 10% well no one is forcing you..yet tell a good reason why you don't want to.

Just my 2 pennies worth.
 
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That's the typical lame excuse to deny God's 10%.

We are not bound to a certain percent. We are under grace. This scripture comes to mind.................

2 Cor. 9:7
, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."
 
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We are not bound to a certain percent. We are under grace. This scripture comes to mind.................

2 Cor. 9:7
, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."

If God is calling you to tithe, then you need to do it. If He isn't, don't, or it will be done begrudgingly. The only people who make any noise about tithing are those who don't tithe. those who do tithe are happy and content doing so. I should think that the non-tithers need to MYOB, eh?



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I am not giving a "lame excuse" at all. Rather, I am choosing to live before God, the guidelines He set forth for all New Testament Believers in Christ Jesus.

Amos 3:3 asks the question, “Can two walk together, except they be agreed?”.
An interesting question indeed. A question today could be asked why so many who claim to be walking with God disagree with His Word? Are they truly walking with God?
God said in Leviticus 27:30-33 that His holy tithe is agricultural. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god who says the commanded tithe is money?
God said in Numbers 18:21,24,26,28 that He gave His tithe to the Levitic tribe of the children of Israel. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god who says you are to tithe to people who are not of the Levitic tribe?
God said in Deuteronomy 6:1-3 & Deuteronomy 12:10-11 that one was not to start tithing until one crossed Jordan and entered Canaan. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that requires tithing on Gentile soil?
God said in Deuteronomy 14:22-27 that a second tithe was to be taken to a Jewish Feast and eaten by the tither before the LORD God. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that says we must tithe to our Church and nowhere else?
God said in Deuteronomy 14:28-29 that a third tithe was to be given every three years to feed the widows, the orphans, the Levites and foreigners in Israel. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that says the tithe must go to your Church?
God said in Nehemiah 10:37-38 that the firstfruits were to be taken to the Temple storehouse in Jerusalem, and the tithes were to be taken to the Levites. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that says tithes are to go to pastors on Gentile soil?
God said in Psalm 147:19-20 that His statutes and judgments were given to Israel and Israel alone. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that says the Mosaic Law is to be obeyed by all people of every nation?
God’s Word tells us in Acts 21:23-25 that Gentile Believers are not commanded to keep the Mosaic Law. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that demands Gentile Believers obey the Mosaic Law?
In the last chapter that tithing is mentioned in God’s Holy Word, (Hebrews 7:5-8 ) we are told that the commanded tithe is the same agricultural tithe commanded in the Pentateuch more than 1500 years earlier. Are you in agreement with God? Are you walking with Him? or are you following a god that says the commanded tithe is money?
Are you in agreement and walking with God? or have you rejected His decree and chosen your own path?
There is not one Scripture in the entire Bible where God amended His tithe command to extend to the New Testament Church. Nor is there an amendment in His Word to make the tithe a monetary tithe instead of an agricultural one.
If God didn’t amend the tithe in His Word, how can we, who are supposed to boldly proclaim and walk in the Truth as it is written in His Holy Word, say He requires tithes of money? There is absolutely no justification for such an action.
Proverbs 30:6 tells us we are not to add to God’s Word. For that reason, we cannot change the tithe that He said was to be agricultural into a monetary tithe. we cannot, in good conscience, bring a tithe that was meant for Israel alone to observe to another geographical location.
You see, you cannot just focus on the fact that God commanded a tenth, and then totally ignore what that tenth was to consist of, where it was to be taken to, to whom it was to be given, and when it was to be given. You are picking and choosing that a tithe is required, yet dismissing all other aspects concerning God’s holy tithe.

One cannot choose to obey one ordinance of the Mosaic Law without placing oneself under the jurisdiction of the entire Law.

The Apostle Paul said that to go to the House of the Law while married to Christ is comparable to adultery. Others may choose to be adulterers, I will not.
 
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Hi everyone
God bless you all!

If I may just speak truth from the heart....
I have been single for years...
Sometimes at church if I can tithe I will happily
But then sometimes I can't....
But I know God loves me

Bible says don't steal....
Lol I never did...and wouldn't for a tithe

God loves our hearts
I think folks worry bout the tithe too much
Do what you can....

Some of these crooked pastors on t.v. don't need a tithe...
They need annointin' lol

(My opinion I'm responsible for)

Thanks everyone!
 

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We pay our tithes to...get it now....GOD!
So does God appear to you and you put your tithe into His nail scarred hand. Or maybe Gabriel shows up with palm to the sky. How does it work. I gotta hear this.
 
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So does God appear to you and you put your tithe into His nail scarred hand. Or maybe Gabriel shows up with palm to the sky. How does it work. I gotta hear this.
If you do not know, then you reside in denial and ignorance of God's word. Of course that would be true especially of someone who despises the Church, yet presumes to teach.


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We can argue all day long about whether we use the word tithe or not.

One thing is that we should be hapy and joyful givers to God.. plus, who do you think pays (in church)the electric bill (you do like to be warm in the winter ?), water charges, waste disposal. building maintenance, toilet roll/tissue, who's paying for the seats you sit in, stipends etc .

When I hear someone say we shouldnt tithe or pay, I hear someone looking to free load. and thats before we even get to the seriouse heart issue. so is it 10% well no one is forcing you..yet tell a good reason why you don't want to.

Just my 2 pennies worth.
Just off the top of my head, tithing will put you under a curse.
 
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Just off the top of my head, tithing will put you under a curse.
The opposite is true. Read the word.

Before we began to tithe, our finances were in a mess, and we felt as though we were under a curse. After we began to tithe we became debt free very quickly.


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If you do not know, then you reside in denial and ignorance of God's word. Of course that would be true especially of someone who despises the Church, yet presumes to teach

I don't despise the ecclesia. I'm trying to set it free from those that teach lies. They are the ones that despise the folks.
Where am I ignorant of God's word?
And you did not answer the question. How do you give God your cash? Teach me your sound understanding.
 

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Just off the top of my head, tithing will put you under a curse.

Im fine giving...its good to give...and im not really bothered what you call it ;)
 
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If you do not know, then you reside in denial and ignorance of God's word. Of course that would be true especially of someone who despises the Church, yet presumes to teach.
I don't despise the ecclesia. I'm trying to set it free from those that teach lies. They are the ones that despise the folks.
Where am I ignorant of God's word?
And you did not answer the question. How do you give God your cash? Teach me your sound understanding.
You make continual declarations against the Body of Christ, the Church. You can't set anyone free. That is the Holy Spirit's job.

My tithe goes to the storehouse, the local church, from where I receive much of my spiritual nourishment...and so that others may receive the same and more.


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Paid tithes for years. Lived in financial trouble. Never blessed. Others around us never blessed, unless they were slick business men. God told us to quit with the tithing. Bam! He started blessing us right and left. Even canceled an 80 thousand dollar debt. Now we help the needy faster, instead of the greedy pastor.
Gal. 3:20 under the law, under a curse. No more thank you. Be free of religion, be blessed.
 

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How do I make declarations against the ecclesia?
 
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Paid tithes for years. Lived in financial trouble. Never blessed. Others around us never blessed, unless they were slick business men. God told us to quit with the tithing. Bam! He started blessing us right and left. Even canceled an 80 thousand dollar debt. Now we help the needy faster, instead of the greedy pastor.
Gal. 3:20 under the law, under a curse. No more thank you. Be free of religion, be blessed.
The devil blesses, too, you know.
You speak just like people who claim that God doesn't heal. You forget to add the...YET.
 
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What preachers call tithes today is nothing like that which God’s Word says concerning His holy tithe.

In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was only of the crops, flocks and herds. (Numbers 18:21-28; Leviticus 27:30-33) Today, it is taught that God requires our money to be tithed. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, only the Levites were authorized to receive the yearly tithe. (Numbers 18:24-26) On the third year the tithe was kept in the tither’s city to feed the widows, the orphans, the Levites that were living in the tither’s city, and the foreigner that was visiting the city. (Deuteronomy 14:22-23, 28-29) Every seventh year, there was no tithe required. (Leviticus 25:4,20) Today, churches teach a weekly tithe with no instruction to keep the tithe in your own community, nor is there a rest from the tithe every seventh year. Pastors of the Church teach that the Church can receive it. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was only required of those who owned land on which one could plant gardens or orchards, or breed livestock on. Men who did not own gardens, orchards or livestock were not required to tithe. (Deuteronomy 14:22) Today, the Church teaches God requires all members of the congregation to tithe. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, only Israelites were required to tithe. (Leviticus 27:30-34; Psalms 147:19-20) The Levites could not accept tithes from anyone who was not of the nation of Israel. (Numbers 18:26) Today, Church members all over the world are told to tithe. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, firstfruits and the tithe were separate (Nehemiah 10:37-38; 12:44) Today, the Church teaches that tithes and firstfruits are the same thing. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was of the increase of crops, flocks & livestock. (Leviticus 27:30-33; Deuteronomy 14:22) Today, Churches teach that 10% of your paycheck is to be tithed. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)

Contrary to the popular teaching, God is not going to curse you if you don’t tithe your money. Many a preacher will stand behind the pulpit and preach that Malachi 3:8-10 is a warning to their congregations that they will receive a curse if they don’t tithe their money. Since God’s Word defines what the tithe was, how can preachers say it is something different? How can the members of the congregation agree that the tithe is something other than what God’s Holy Word declares it to be? Brethren, the tithe in Malachi 3 was of the crops. God says bring it in the storehouse. The storehouse was rooms encircling the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (1 Kings 6:5-10) And God told the Priests who had stolen the tithes to return the tithes. If they would, He would open the windows of Heaven, (remember the first time the windows of Heaven are mentioned in the Bible? God made it rain upon the Earth) and He would pour out a blessing that the people would not be able to receive. He would rebuke the devourer (the locust) for their sake. Folks, God was speaking of abundance of crops as a blessing for tithing of the crops. God’s tithe was not money then, nor has it ever been.

Brethren, if you want to please God with your money, give as the Apostle Paul instructed… as you purpose in your heart. (2 Corinthians 9:7) Don’t give grugdingly, but rather willingly and cheerfully.

But regardless if you give 10% of your money, it is not tithes according to the Word of God. Tithes were only of the crops, flocks, and herds. What you are giving when you give money is a contribution.

There is not one instance of the Apostle’s teaching the Gentile Churches to tithe their money in the Word of God. As a matter of fact, when the Jerusalem Council met as recorded in Acts 15, the Jerusalem Council wanted the Gentile Believers to be circumcised, AND to keep the Law of Moses.” (v.5) The tithe was one of the laws found within the Law of Moses.

What did James tell the Council that day? It seemeth good to the Holy Ghost and to us that no greater burden be laid upon the Gentile Believers than these necessary things: to abstain from blood, and from things strangled, and from idols, and from fornication. He ended with “if ye do these things, ye do well.” (vv.28-29)

One would think that the Holy Ghost would have told James to teach the Gentile Churches that they were to tithe. But according to the Word of God, the tithe was not a necessary thing required of the Gentiles.

So how are we to see to the financial needs of the Church if we don’t tithe? By giving cheerfully and willingly. Freewill contributions, not of compulsion or necessity. God loves a cheerful giver.

If you purpose in your heart to give 10% of your money, great! But since God’s Word tells us what the tithe was, and who was required to tithe, your 10% of your money is not God’s tithe. It is a contribution. When God’s Word says His holy tithe is agriculture but the preacher says it is money, God is right and the preacher is wrong.

The tithe of the congregation was not taken to the Temple/Tabernacle by the people. It was taken to the Levites in the farming communities, who in turn took a tithe of the tithe they received to the Temple/Tabernacle. (Nehemiah 10:37-38) That’s right, only 1% of the original tither’s property went to the House of God,… not 10%. And it was the Levite who was responsible for taking the tithe to the House of God, not the children of Israel.

Study it out folks. That which is preached as “God’s tithe” today is not the tithe instituted by God. Not even close to that which God instituted. It is totally foreign to the Word of God.

A careful and prayerful study of the Word of God will reveal to the reader that the tithe taught today is not what God’s Word says about God’s holy tithe. Preachers are falsely teaching a man-made command as if it is a doctrine ordained by God.

Matthew 15:9. But in vain they do worship me; teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
 
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What preachers call tithes today is nothing like that which God’s Word says concerning His holy tithe.

In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was only of the crops, flocks and herds. (Numbers 18:21-28; Leviticus 27:30-33) Today, it is taught that God requires our money to be tithed. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)
In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, only the Levites were authorized to receive the yearly tithe. (Numbers 18:24-26) On the third year the tithe was kept in the tither’s city to feed the widows, the orphans, the Levites that were living in the tither’s city, and the foreigner that was visiting the city. (Deuteronomy 14:22-23, 28-29) Every seventh year, there was no tithe required. (Leviticus 25:4,20) Today, churches teach a weekly tithe with no instruction to keep the tithe in your own community, nor is there a rest from the tithe every seventh year. Pastors of the Church teach that the Church can receive it. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was only required of those who owned land on which one could plant gardens or orchards, or breed livestock on. Men who did not own gardens, orchards or livestock were not required to tithe. (Deuteronomy 14:22) Today, the Church teaches God requires all members of the congregation to tithe. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, only Israelites were required to tithe. (Leviticus 27:30-34; Psalms 147:19-20) The Levites could not accept tithes from anyone who was not of the nation of Israel. (Numbers 18:26) Today, Church members all over the world are told to tithe. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, firstfruits and the tithe were separate (Nehemiah 10:37-38; 12:44) Today, the Church teaches that tithes and firstfruits are the same thing. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)


In the days from Aaron to the Apostle Paul, the tithe was of the increase of crops, flocks & livestock. (Leviticus 27:30-33; Deuteronomy 14:22) Today, Churches teach that 10% of your paycheck is to be tithed. (There is no Scriptural support for this teaching)

Contrary to the popular teaching, God is not going to curse you if you don’t tithe your money. Many a preacher will stand behind the pulpit and preach that Malachi 3:8-10 is a warning to their congregations that they will receive a curse if they don’t tithe their money. Since God’s Word defines what the tithe was, how can preachers say it is something different? How can the members of the congregation agree that the tithe is something other than what God’s Holy Word declares it to be? Brethren, the tithe in Malachi 3 was of the crops. God says bring it in the storehouse. The storehouse was rooms encircling the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (1 Kings 6:5-10) And God told the Priests who had stolen the tithes to return the tithes. If they would, He would open the windows of Heaven, (remember the first time the windows of Heaven are mentioned in the Bible? God made it rain upon the Earth) and He would pour out a blessing that the people would not be able to receive. He would rebuke the devourer (the locust) for their sake. Folks, God was speaking of abundance of crops as a blessing for tithing of the crops. God’s tithe was not money then, nor has it ever been.

Brethren, if you want to please God with your money, give as the Apostle Paul instructed… as you purpose in your heart. (2 Corinthians 9:7) Don’t give grugdingly, but rather willingly and cheerfully.

But regardless if you give 10% of your money, it is not tithes according to the Word of God. Tithes were only of the crops, flocks, and herds. What you are giving when you give money is a contribution.

There is not one instance of the Apostle’s teaching the Gentile Churches to tithe their money in the Word of God. As a matter of fact, when the Jerusalem Council met as recorded in Acts 15, the Jerusalem Council wanted the Gentile Believers to be circumcised, AND to keep the Law of Moses.” (v.5) The tithe was one of the laws found within the Law of Moses.

What did James tell the Council that day? It seemeth good to the Holy Ghost and to us that no greater burden be laid upon the Gentile Believers than these necessary things: to abstain from blood, and from things strangled, and from idols, and from fornication. He ended with “if ye do these things, ye do well.” (vv.28-29)

One would think that the Holy Ghost would have told James to teach the Gentile Churches that they were to tithe. But according to the Word of God, the tithe was not a necessary thing required of the Gentiles.

So how are we to see to the financial needs of the Church if we don’t tithe? By giving cheerfully and willingly. Freewill contributions, not of compulsion or necessity. God loves a cheerful giver.

If you purpose in your heart to give 10% of your money, great! But since God’s Word tells us what the tithe was, and who was required to tithe, your 10% of your money is not God’s tithe. It is a contribution. When God’s Word says His holy tithe is agriculture but the preacher says it is money, God is right and the preacher is wrong.

The tithe of the congregation was not taken to the Temple/Tabernacle by the people. It was taken to the Levites in the farming communities, who in turn took a tithe of the tithe they received to the Temple/Tabernacle. (Nehemiah 10:37-38) That’s right, only 1% of the original tither’s property went to the House of God,… not 10%. And it was the Levite who was responsible for taking the tithe to the House of God, not the children of Israel.

Study it out folks. That which is preached as “God’s tithe” today is not the tithe instituted by God. Not even close to that which God instituted. It is totally foreign to the Word of God.

A careful and prayerful study of the Word of God will reveal to the reader that the tithe taught today is not what God’s Word says about God’s holy tithe. Preachers are falsely teaching a man-made command as if it is a doctrine ordained by God.

Matthew 15:9. But in vain they do worship me; teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Hi sir,

With all the due respect, if God is the owner of everything we possessed then money is to be tithe.

God bless
 
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Hi sir,

With all the due respect, if God is the owner of everything we possessed then money is to be tithe.

God bless
God's Word states otherwise.

Let's see, God's Word says His holy tithe is agricultural, fredoheaven says it is money.

I'll just believe the Word of God on this one. After all, ...Jesus did say, "Thy Word is Truth"
 

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Share some clear cut scriptures and the first thing that happens, without fail mind you, someone says 'Boy, you really hate the church don't you?' Beautiful baby, beautiful.