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Wesil

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Hi guys! Am anew member, Ihave aquestion please just help! Iam born and believe in Tithing and It's apractice Ifollow, Iwas attending acertain meeting in another church where the preacher was talking about giving and he said, a) Jesus never talked about Tithe but Jesus taught about sacrificial giving! b) The apostles never taught about Tithing but they taught early belivers to give towards the extension of the gospel and also to the needy in Jerusalem! c) he said Tithe is alegalistic way of giving and the Apostles in Acts 15:22-30! Please help me know, could Ihave practised this in vain!
 

Blain

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The word tithing is just the english word for giving to God, the apostles did tithe so did the early church they were all in one heart one mind and gave all they had for each other and the cause of Christ no one was ever lacking in need because of the generous giving.

When you tithe don't tithe for the church tithe for God, God is far more interested in the heart behind tithing than tithing itself.
If you give do it with a cheerful heart and do it as if you are giving it directly to God the amount isn't important what is important is why you are giving and to whom
 
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He's correct in a, b, and c. The tithe as it is taught today is entirely unbiblical.
 

Dan_473

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imo, tithing isn't commanded or taught in the nt...

in the ot, 10% belongs to God... in the nt, it's 100%...

I don't think anything done with a sincere heart and an honest attempt to seek God is done in vain... God can use anything to help us grow...
 

jb

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...The tithe as it is taught today is entirely unbiblical.
DITTO!

Tithing is an OT practice, NOT NT...

For those interested you can find a bit of a study Here on tithing in the Scriptures and Church history...
 
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On Giving
by: Kahlil Gibran

You give but little when you give of your possessions.
It is when you give of yourself that you truly give.

For what are your possessions but things you keep and guard for fear you may need them tomorrow?
And tomorrow, what shall tomorrow bring to the overprudent dog burying bones in the trackless sand as he follows the pilgrims to the holy city?

And what is fear of need but need itself?
Is not dread of thirst when your well is full, the thirst that is unquenchable?

There are those who give little of the much which they have--and they give it for recognition and their hidden desire makes their gifts unwholesome.

And there are those who have little and give it all.
These are the believers in life and the bounty of life, and their coffer is never empty.

There are those who give with joy, and that joy is their reward.
And there are those who give with pain, and that pain is their baptism.
And there are those who give and know not pain in giving, nor do they seek joy, nor give with mindfulness of virtue;
They give as in yonder valley the myrtle breathes its fragrance into space.
Through the hands of such as these God speaks, and from behind their eyes He smiles upon the earth.

It is well to give when asked, but it is better to give unasked, through understanding;
And to the open-handed the search for one who shall receive is joy greater than giving.

And is there aught you would withhold?
All you have shall some day be given;
Therefore give now, that the season of giving may be yours and not your inheritors'.

You often say, "I would give, but only to the deserving."
The trees in your orchard say not so, nor the flocks in your pasture.
They give that they may live, for to withhold is to perish.

Surely he who is worthy to receive his days and his nights, is worthy of all else from you.
And he who has deserved to drink from the ocean of life deserves to fill his cup from your little stream.
And what desert greater shall there be, than that which lies in the courage and the confidence, nay the charity, of receiving?
And who are you that men should rend their bosom and unveil their pride, that you may see their worth naked and their pride unabashed?

See first that you yourself deserve to be a giver, and an instrument of giving.
For in truth it is life that gives unto life while you, who deem yourself a giver, are but a witness.

And you receivers... and you are all receivers... assume no weight of gratitude, lest you lay a yoke upon yourself and upon him who gives.

Rather rise together with the giver on his gifts as on wings;
For to be overmindful of your debt, is to doubt his generosity who has the freehearted earth for mother, and God for father.
 
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Wesil

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Thanks alot, Willi-T I'll have to read over and over to fully get all! These stands out though, a)It's the heart of the giver and not the gift that God's Intrested in b)One cannot out give God, c)God doesn't just want your gift,It's you as awhole person your gift Included! That amounts to 100%! Ibelive as Iread through again I'll get more! Thanks to you who've responded to my dilema!
 
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Hi guys! Am anew member, Ihave aquestion please just help! Iam born and believe in Tithing and It's apractice Ifollow, Iwas attending acertain meeting in another church where the preacher was talking about giving and he said, a) Jesus never talked about Tithe but Jesus taught about sacrificial giving! b) The apostles never taught about Tithing but they taught early belivers to give towards the extension of the gospel and also to the needy in Jerusalem! c) he said Tithe is alegalistic way of giving and the Apostles in Acts 15:22-30! Please help me know, could Ihave practised this in vain!
Tithing amounts to sacrificial giving. Tithing has never been rescinded. It is NEVER a vain commitment. God's promises have never been phased out concerning the tithe!

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posthuman

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The word tithing is just the english word for giving to God
"tithe" is literally a derivative word meaning "tenth" - it's used in the Biblical context as a reference to the commandment under the Mosaic law that Israel should give the first 1/10 of their profit to the Levites, because the Levites were not given land like the other tribes, but were instead assigned to serve God in the temple and in teaching the law to the rest of Israel.
under Moses, Israel was commanded to give much more than just this tenth part, in various other circumstances. i've heard that this Mosaic "tax" could amount to up to 1/3 of income in total, but i can't give you specific references without searching - it probably isn't hard to find this info & someone can correct me if that's off-base.

the apostles never taught that giving should be demanded or commanded as a law or rule. not even the "tenth part" i.e. tithe. what we find in the epistles instead is teaching that giving should specifically be done "not under compulsion," and "not reluctantly" and not any certain amount but what you've decided in your own heart.

Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give,
not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

(2 Corinthians 9:7)​

the Mosaic "tithe" is certainly a model for us, and an example, but the new testament certainly does not support tithing as a "law" or "command" the way it must be often preached (since so many people seem to have the wrong impression that it is). after all, we do not have a "Levite" class among us that should receive the tithe, according to the law, so what sense does it make? every one of us are priests of God, with Christ our high priest.

now, it's not sin for you to give a tenth regularly - if that's what you've "purposed in your heart to give" and you don't give it reluctantly or under compulsion. i believe it is sin to compel someone to do this, and if you cannot give joyfully, then i feel like giving reluctantly or half-heartedly is sin for yourself too.

Jah does not want you to give because you think you're obeying a rule to do so or you feel forced to. He wants you to give thankfully and happily --

The one who offers thanksgiving as his sacrifice glorifies me;
to one who orders his way rightly I will show the salvation of God!

(Psalm 50:23)
 
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Thanks alot, Willi-T I'll have to read over and over to fully get all! These stands out though, a)It's the heart of the giver and not the gift that God's Intrested in b)One cannot out give God, c)God doesn't just want your gift,It's you as awhole person your gift Included! That amounts to 100%! Ibelive as Iread through again I'll get more! Thanks to you who've responded to my dilema!
I think you have it. God even said, "I desire mercy (love), not sacrifices."
 
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it's the Spirit of God that works in our hearts, base beasts would never give a care
for each other....

Grace, how sweet the sound, breath-taking feeling....!
 
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The object of our love is something we would lavish our gifts on, to the point of sacrifice. Our Father is worthy of our giving until it hurts. What glory is there in giving to Him something we can afford? It is in sacrificial giving that we receive the best blessings. He blesses that 10% we tithe to go further than the 90% we keep.

Remember the poor widow and her mite given as alms? That tiny coin was acknowledged by Jesus Himself and blessed. How much more does God acknowledge and bless the tithe and the tither?

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Tithing amounts to sacrificial giving. Tithing has never been rescinded. It is NEVER a vain commitment. God's promises have never been phased out concerning the tithe!

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A work of the flesh.
 
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The object of our love is something we would lavish our gifts on, to the point of sacrifice. Our Father is worthy of our giving until it hurts. What glory is there in giving to Him something we can afford? It is in sacrificial giving that we receive the best blessings. He blesses that 10% we tithe to go further than the 90% we keep.

Remember the poor widow and her mite given as alms? That tiny coin was acknowledged by Jesus Himself and blessed. How much more does God acknowledge and bless the tithe and the tither?

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Ah........ But what is it that He has already said that He wants more than "sacrifices?" He said "mercy" (love is the meaning there). And the only place we can show loving mercy is to other human beings.

But.... we seem to try and justify not being too loving to all mankind by giving some money. And that is interesting because Jesus took that coin and clearly told us "Give to Caesar, that which is his. But give to God"...................... what?......... A certain portion of the same stash of money in our wallets? I don't think so.
 
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Ah........ But what is it that He has already said that He wants more than "sacrifices?" He said "mercy" (love is the meaning there). And the only place we can show loving mercy is to other human beings.

But.... we seem to try and justify not being too loving to all mankind by giving some money. And that is interesting because Jesus took that coin and clearly told us "Give to Caesar, that which is his. But give to God"...................... what?......... A certain portion of the same stash of money in our wallets? I don't think so.
As believers, we need obey God concerning the local church we belong to. The local church is our storehouse, where we receive spiritual food and care. This is what we are to be tithing to, so that all our needs are met as well as many needs of the poor, hungry and needy in our communities.

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Budman

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Give what you are able - as your heart directs.

Don't let anyone bully you into giving a certain amount, or deceive you with promises of a certain return on your "investment" in the Kingdom.

The are lots of money hungry so-called "shepherds" out there.
 

Dan_473

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As believers, we need obey God concerning the local church we belong to. The local church is our storehouse, where we receive spiritual food and care. This is what we are to be tithing to, so that all our needs are met as well as many needs of the poor, hungry and needy in our communities.

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if local church means local church building, then I gotta disagree...

the church building isn't something endorsed by the nt... or I haven't found it yet...