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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
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Sorry you're just dead wrong on this. Iraq was 100x better under Saddam than it is now. Nothing good has come of the western war on Iraq, and it has a heavy price to pay for all of the destruction and millions of deaths it's caused. IEATGLITTER is right on this point.
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Not to mention the crushing war debt we left on the credit card for our kids and their kids to pay off
 
shlee23 said:
Does God love someone more than another?
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No; God loves everyone the same, but His grace only reigns upon those who love Jesus. You're showing an exuberant amount of grace to muslims, but not to Christians who are angry at world events.
 
Utah said:
And still, our enemy is alive and well.
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Yep, even flourishing and stronger. Kinda makes pouring good money after bad seem pretty stupid right? And yet pour we do, while things in this country go to pot for lack of money.
 
This is getting personal. 1EATGLITTER and Shee clearly admitted already that they are not defending ISLAM. I think they're point is that we love people regardless of religion. Which no one disagrees to.

What I think the rest of us, including myself, are trying to point out is that, unless the MUSLIM (person) separates himself from the EVIL branch (Islam), there will always be the risk of having extremists. So we must be on guard all the time. How to keep ourselves and our people safe, is where we differ in ideas. We don't have to argue about that.

The perfect solution that we're looking for is non-existent at the moment. So, the only thing that we can do really, is proclaim the gospel to as many people as we can. That way we can prevent potential harm. If you're not satisfied with that solution, go try something else and waste your time.
 
Utah said:
No; God loves everyone the same, but His grace only reigns upon those who love Jesus. You're showing an exuberant amount of grace to muslims, but not to Christians who are angry at world events.
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I'm not showing grace to Muslims. I've simply been stating this entire time that we shouldn't hate them and that we should love them, as we should love all people. I don't see how this is wrong.
 
RickyZ said:
Yep, even flourishing and stronger. Kinda makes pouring good money after bad seem pretty stupid right? And yet pour we do, while things in this country go to pot for lack of money.
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I agree with you, brother. If we're at war, we must impose our complete and total will upon our enemy; if we're not going to do that, then we shouldn't go to war.
 
shlee23 said:
I'm not showing grace to Muslims. I've simply been stating this entire time that we shouldn't hate them and that we should love them, as we should love all people. I don't see how this is wrong.
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Hate the sin,,hate the evil religion ..love people enough to tell the truth
 
Utah said:
I agree with you, brother. If we're at war, we must impose our complete and total will upon our enemy; if we're not going to do that, then we shouldn't go to war.
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Amen. Let's turn their sand to glass or go home!
 
shlee23 said:
Not all Muslims are evil. That is the entire point that you are missing. I have Muslim friends and they are just as kind as anyone else. They're not all out to destroy the world.
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The point is that islam is evil, not that we should hate muslims.
 
Abing said:
This is getting personal. 1EATGLITTER and Shee clearly admitted already that they are not defending ISLAM. I think they're point is that we love people regardless of religion. Which no one disagrees to.

What I think the rest of us, including myself, are trying to point out is that, unless the MUSLIM (person) separates himself from the EVIL branch (Islam), there will always be the risk of having extremists. So we must be on guard all the time. How to keep ourselves and our people safe, is where we differ in ideas. We don't have to argue about that.

The perfect solution that we're looking for is non-existent at the moment. So, the only thing that we can do really, is proclaim the gospel to as many people as we can. That way we can prevent potential harm. If you're not satisfied with that solution, go try something else and waste your time.
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I got an idea..how about start telling the truth about this religion ...the solution to every problem begins with the truth. How about stop trying to use emotions to decide what is true and use real logic and reason based on the facts?
 
shlee23 said:
I'm not showing grace to Muslims. I've simply been stating this entire time that we shouldn't hate them and that we should love them, as we should love all people. I don't see how this is wrong.
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And you do that, in part, by misrepresenting others, like me. You put words in my mouth by stating that I said I hate all muslims. I challenged you to prove that, and you can't because I never said that, and STILL, no apology from you. Dishonesty and pride are very ungodly, Shlee. I encourage you to quit partaking in both. Much to your dismay, you're not always right.
 
Yeah - the next time we fight a war for oil, we should remember to get some oil!
 
Utah said:
And you do that, in part, by misrepresenting others, like me. You put words in my mouth by stating that I said I hate all muslims. I challenged you to prove that, and you can't because I never said that, and STILL, no apology from you. Dishonesty and pride are very ungodly, Shlee. I encourage you to quit partaking in both. Much to your dismay, you're not always right.
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And you guys have also misrepresented me by constantly saying that I am defending Islam when in fact I'm not. Goes both ways.
 
Mitspa said:
I got an idea..how about start telling the truth about this religion ...the solution to every problem begins with the truth. How about stop trying to use emotions to decide what is true and use real logic and reason based on the facts?
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They clearly don't want the truth.
 
shlee23 said:
And you guys have also misrepresented me by constantly saying that I am defending Islam when in fact I'm not. Goes both ways.
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See what I mean? Your pride is extremely unbecoming of a woman. Its downright ugly.
 
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