blaspheming the Holy Spirit?
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It's not vague at all.
It's calling the Holy Spirit, the devil.
24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
31 “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12:24-31
blasphemy against the Spirit, is calling the Holy Spirit, the devil.
JLB
It is important to ensure the topic is kept in context to the term Jesus used " Blaphemy of the Holy Ghost" Matt 12:23-33 AND LUKE 11:14-19 AND CONTINUED IN LUKE 12:10. THESE ARE THE ONLY CHAPTER s in the gospel that speak of blaspemy of the Holy Spirit and Jesus is the one speak in all accounts. it is important to ask some questions to understand what and why Jesus said this in the following chapter' s of Matthew and Luke.
1.Why did HE say it?
2. who did he say it to?
3. where is it said again and if so how was it applied?
As recorded in Matt 12:24 we see Jesus say this to the Pharisees because they stated; that Jesus cast out devils by the power of the devil verse 24. Verse 25 says: "Jesus knew their thoughts" speaking to who? The pharisees as stated in verse 25 of matt 12:24-25. So Jesus said this because of what the pharisees suggested that HE is casting out devil with the power of the devil. As I read both Matthew and Luke, I do not see where Jesus said that they ( the Pharisees) did in fact blasphemy the Holy Spirit. What we do see is Jesus explain what it is to have Blasphemy the holy Spirit and giving warning to the pharisees to be very care. If this were not so, I think Jesus would have stated " YOU have Blasphemed the Holy Spirit" which Jesus did not do. We know that in Matthew 23 Jesus had no problem call them hypocrits and fools Matt 23:14,15,16,17, and 23.
It is clear I think in scripture that blasphemy of the Holy Spirt as stated by our Lord is an act of knowliedhge and understanding. And Jesus was giving strong admonishment to the pharisees for what they said about the Work Jesus did.
One very important thing that has to be taken into consideration about matt 12 and Luke 11 Jesus had not yet suffered the Cross. So how could they at that time really understand what Jesus was saying fully? And How could they be condemned to an unpardonable sin when They are already Judged because Jesus had not yet died and rose again?
we have to be very careful when tellig new believers and other that they may have blasphemed the Holy Spirit and causing them to flee from God. If you ask your self this question what is it and have I done it? then it is most likely you have not Blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
1.Why did HE say it?
2. who did he say it to?
3. where is it said again and if so how was it applied?
As recorded in Matt 12:24 we see Jesus say this to the Pharisees because they stated; that Jesus cast out devils by the power of the devil verse 24. Verse 25 says: "Jesus knew their thoughts" speaking to who? The pharisees as stated in verse 25 of matt 12:24-25. So Jesus said this because of what the pharisees suggested that HE is casting out devil with the power of the devil. As I read both Matthew and Luke, I do not see where Jesus said that they ( the Pharisees) did in fact blasphemy the Holy Spirit. What we do see is Jesus explain what it is to have Blasphemy the holy Spirit and giving warning to the pharisees to be very care. If this were not so, I think Jesus would have stated " YOU have Blasphemed the Holy Spirit" which Jesus did not do. We know that in Matthew 23 Jesus had no problem call them hypocrits and fools Matt 23:14,15,16,17, and 23.
It is clear I think in scripture that blasphemy of the Holy Spirt as stated by our Lord is an act of knowliedhge and understanding. And Jesus was giving strong admonishment to the pharisees for what they said about the Work Jesus did.
One very important thing that has to be taken into consideration about matt 12 and Luke 11 Jesus had not yet suffered the Cross. So how could they at that time really understand what Jesus was saying fully? And How could they be condemned to an unpardonable sin when They are already Judged because Jesus had not yet died and rose again?
we have to be very careful when tellig new believers and other that they may have blasphemed the Holy Spirit and causing them to flee from God. If you ask your self this question what is it and have I done it? then it is most likely you have not Blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
The very reason that Jesus brought it up was because the Pharisees said that Jesus was driving out demons by the Beelzbul, and thereby saying that the Holy Spirit, by whom Jesus was casting them out was unclean. Therefore, those Pharisees who said this where guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. This sin is not something that can be done by accident. The only way that a person could commit this sin is that they would have to speak against the Spirit in the same way as the Pharisees did. See post #10
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lol I am not looking to be right 
I think matt 12 and luke 11 are very clear. And I think that is correct Blasphemy of the holy Spirit is what Jesus said it was.
I think matt 12 and luke 11 are very clear. And I think that is correct Blasphemy of the holy Spirit is what Jesus said it was.
but the Bible is clear on what it is...so, why all the conjecture?
I think we should be clear because I've known folks who think they have committed that sin and are pretty upset about it
But thanks!
I was being somewhat facetious
but the Bible is clear on what it is...so, why all the conjecture?
I think we should be clear because I've known folks who think they have committed that sin and are pretty upset about it
But thanks!
but the Bible is clear on what it is...so, why all the conjecture?
I think we should be clear because I've known folks who think they have committed that sin and are pretty upset about it
But thanks!
I don't want to be rude and say " The rest of you are wrong" I think is service us all better is I restate again what Jesus said in Matt 12 and luke 11
but that just me
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oh that's ok
I just was trying to be kind of humerous in the way I said it...there is so much back and forth (I'm sure I don't have to tell you that) in these forums that I thought it would be seen as humerous...even though I do think it was right lol!
guess I should have put one of those little faces to show that
but yes...a very serious subject and I guess that's why the question comes up regularly
I just was trying to be kind of humerous in the way I said it...there is so much back and forth (I'm sure I don't have to tell you that) in these forums that I thought it would be seen as humerous...even though I do think it was right lol!
guess I should have put one of those little faces to show that
but yes...a very serious subject and I guess that's why the question comes up regularly
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IMO this is what blasphemy of the spirit is. Hearts so reprobate and evil that they see evil as good and good as evil. Can such persons repent? Maybe. Could Pharaoh? No. If a person wants to repent, can they? Of course. GOD forgives ALL sin. All he asks is a penitent heart and faith.
IMO this is what blasphemy of the spirit is. Hearts so reprobate and evil that they see evil as good and good as evil. Can such persons repent? Maybe. Could Pharaoh? No. If a person wants to repent, can they? Of course. GOD forgives ALL sin. All he asks is a penitent heart and faith.
Woe to them that call evil good, and good evil; who make darkness light, and light darkness; who make bitter sweet, and sweet bitter. Isaiah 5:20
GOD gave Pharaoh a chance (Exodus 5:2). When Pharaoh demonstrated that his heart was only set on evil towards Israel, then he hardened his heart (Exodus 7:3).
And I think that is the message of the blasphemy of the spirit. If we set our hearts on evil to the point that we call evil good and good evil, beware lest GOD hardens our hearts and we are never able to repent and find forgiveness.
And I think that is the message of the blasphemy of the spirit. If we set our hearts on evil to the point that we call evil good and good evil, beware lest GOD hardens our hearts and we are never able to repent and find forgiveness.