Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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I see no Love in mwc68 Heart for the True Children of God. You are not doing yourself any favors mwc68 by cussing. Do you NOT know the Holy Spirit Indwells in us? How can you have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit if you cuss people out?
 
Mec99 said:
I see no Love in mwc68 Heart for the True Children of God. You are not doing yourself any favors mwc68 by cussing. Do you NOT know the Holy Spirit Indwells in us? How can you have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit if you cuss people out?
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How can you when you lie?
 
mwc68 said:
You can have your silly website. My cause was lost from the beginning. All you people want to do is put us and our doctrine down. Fine!!!!! Yall are not Christians and this is not a Christian site.
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Stop it. Just stop the childish antics. You are a grown man. If you can't defend your beliefs, then go on a different thread. You need some maturity - and fast.
 
Budman said:
Stop it. Just stop the childish antics. You are a grown man. If you can't defend your beliefs, then go on a different thread. You need some maturity - and fast.
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As you high five that you got me! Yeah, real mature
 
mwc68 said:
As you high five that you got me! Yeah, real mature
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You know what I would high-five over? You coming out of that "church" and becoming a true born again believer in Christ. One who places their faith in Jesus alone, and not some blasphemous religious system.

This isn't about "getting" you. It's about the salvation of your soul.

Once again, if we didn't give a rip about you, we'd step back and let you walk straight into hell.
 
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Mec99 said:
Tell me Kennethc for what sin you do will cause you to lose your Salvation?

John 3:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoeverbelieves in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Ephesians 2:8-9
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not as a result of works, that no one should boast.

We have received our Salvation by Faith that Jesus Christ is God and by the Grace God has given to us. So which sin will remove our Salvation from us seeing that we received it by Faith and Grace?

We cannot lose our Salvation by sinning. The only way we can lose our Salvation is by losing our Faith that Jesus Christ is God. We can turn our backs on Jesus Christ and walk away from Him and lose our Salvation. But we cannot lose it by sinning.

Now once you have turned your back on Jesus and have walked away, its IMPOSSIBLE to receive Salvation ever again.

Hebrews 6:4-6
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
[SUP]6 [/SUP] if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

How can one receive back their Salvation if they have lost their Faith that Jesus is God?
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Well first I know that salvation is by faith in the Lord, and we will lose that salvation if we do not continue in that faith.

With that being said if a person is continuing to deliberately live a sinful life that shows they are not born again, as the fruits from the Holy Spirit will guide one to be loving and abstain from a sinful lifestyle.

A continuous deliberate sinful lifestyle is the opposite of how one will walk in the faith, so you can not say a person can be a deliberate willful sinner and still have eternal life. That is not what the bible says as it shows ones walk in the faith goes hand and hand with the belief in Christ unto salvation.

If a person returns to deliberately sinning they will not be saved, and James 5:19-20 makes this clear.

The problem is that some confuse deliberate continuous sinning with a stumble here or there in the faith.

If you walk away from the faith it is not impossible to return, that passage in Hebrews 6:4-6 says they are the one's refusing to return to the Lord. It is not saying the Lord will not accept them if they repent and come back to Him.

Read the prodigal son Luke 15:11-32 and James 5:19-20 as those are two examples of one who walks away and then returns, and they still receive eternal life.
 
mwc68 said:
Yall are the only Christians I know that just really piss me off sometimes
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It's the truth that upsets you - not us.

You are raging because you got caught in doctrinal error when you claimed the Mass isn't the same as Christ's sacrifice on the cross for sins - when I proved that it is exactly what your church teaches.
 
Budman said:
You know what I would high-five over? You coming out of that "church" and becoming a true born again believer in Christ. One who places their faith in Jesus alone, and not some blasphemous religious system.

This sin't about "getting" you. It's about the salvation of your soul.

Once again, if we didn't give a rip about you, we'd step back and let you walk straight into hell.
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I'm saved, quit trying to save the saved
 
So you say you are a Christian by spreading lies from Satan as Truths from God mwc68?

What does false Doctrines have to do with you mwc68? False Doctrines from the Catholic Church has to do with the Catholic Church only.

See how the Catholic Church has trapped you into thinking if we attack the false Doctrines of the Catholic Church that we are actually attacking you instead.

You do realize mwc68 you have actually taken a stance against God and His Truths by claiming we are attacking you for the false Doctrines of the Catholic Church?

Its God who you are fighting against mwc68, not us. Its the Truth from God you are fighting against mwc68.

Do you see how the Catholic Church has worked on you mwc68? Its like being in a gang. You feel you HAVE to defend the Catholic Church because you think its your family, and feel we are attacking your family.

I have no alliance to any Church on this World! The Church is only a place to meet to Worship together. Its not a family that needs defending.

You need to take your eyes off of the Catholic Church and put them on Jesus Christ only. Then you can defend Jesus Christ and His teachings as long as you want. Its Jesus not the Catholic Church that is our family!
 
Budman said:
It's the truth that upsets you - not us.

You are raging because you got caught in doctrinal error when you claimed the Mass isn't the same as Christ's sacrifice on the cross for sins - when I proved that it is exactly what your church teaches.
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All you proved is an ignorance of the Mass. I know this is one of your hate Catholics bullet points
 
But really, I'm supposed to listen to a non Catholic teach me on Catholic doctine? That's kinda nuts. Would you learn music from a car mechanic?
 
mwc68 said:
I'm saved, quit trying to save the saved
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The Bible says anyone who preaches a different gospel is accursed. The Catholic church preaches a salvation of works, not of faith alone, in Jesus alone, through grace alone. And throws in a caboose full of teachings that are in direct contradiction to Scripture. And thus, anyone who aligns themselves with the Catholic church is embracing her false gospel.

You had better examine yourself.
 
I agree with you Kennethc.

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you just as I have forewarned you that those who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Those who practice these things will not Inherit the Kingdom of God.
 
Mec99 said:
I agree with you Kennethc.

Galatians 5:19-21
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you just as I have forewarned you that those who practice such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Those who practice these things will not Inherit the Kingdom of God.
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Gotcha, I'm a hypocrite now for anger. You people are amazing
 
You know what, i don't need you people. I wrongly thought we could eventually be friends, a very few here I actually consider friends. You can have your hate threads about us. I tried
 
mwc68 said:
You know what, i don't need you people. I wrongly thought we could eventually be friends, a very few here I actually consider friends. You can have your hate threads about us. I tried
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You are in a false system which perverts the gospel of Christ. We cannot have true Christian fellowship.

But if you actually believe you have a case - stay and debate it. Don't run from it.

No name-calling, no fit-throwing. Just debate the issues. No more, no less.
 
mwc68 said:
You know what, i don't need you people. I wrongly thought we could eventually be friends, a very few here I actually consider friends. You can have your hate threads about us. I tried
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Once again showing truth from the scriptures should not be always taken as hate.

Like I showed by giving the word of God to you in the past that we are to give correction and accept correction by the scriptures. We are not to place any man, doctrine, or building over the word of God.

They do not have any authority to change by adding or taking away from the written word, and God says clearly if you add or take away from His word there are consequences. One of such is to be stricken from the Book of Life !!!
 
This is not fun anymore. 9000 post and we are back to square one. Hostility is not the answer. I bet Satan is jumping for joy right now.

We have reasons for our different views. It is an insult , I believe to tell someone they are wrong when they truly believe something that is part of their lives and in means so much to them. A way of life they personally treasure and sincerely believe in.

This subject is going nowhere. There are no winners.
I don't go to any church, I think they are all wrong. I have my reasons.
I thought I knew something about the Catholics but I guess I do not.

My in-laws are heavy into the catholic church. I have been more times to the catholic church since I got married than I have been to any other church. And, you don't think I have gone through all these topics with my father-in-law and aunts and uncles and all my wives kins. But, I still love them all. All that happens is that I look foolish to them. But, when I saw my sister-in -law crying; I knew it was time to stop. And, at the time I was a Mormon; turned out I was wrong about that. And I used to trac with the missionaries. Today I kick away the missionaries when they come to my door. And, I was stiff necked back then. Boy was I wrong.

I do apologies for my behavior. I say this to all my Catholic friends on this web site.

I am not a strong Christian. I am really struggling with my faith. And, its stuff like this that makes me who I am today. All this bickering.

God bless you all for trying so hard to Love God.
 
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